https://www.foxnews.com/politics/state-department-blocking-private-evacuation-flights-afghanistan

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FIRST ON FOX: Americans engaged in the rescue of U.S. citizens, SIVs and green card holders left behind by President Biden in Afghanistan are horrified by what they describe as inexplicable delays from the State Department that are preventing evacuation flights from leaving the country.

The State Department's delays are recklessly endangering American lives, three different individuals involved in the private evacuation effort told Fox News.

Rick Clay, who runs the private rescue group PlanB, told Fox News that the State Department is the only thing preventing the flights he's organizing from leaving Afghanistan.

Two other American individuals separately involved in evacuation efforts, whom Fox News is not naming to avoid jeopardizing ongoing rescue efforts, similarly said that the State Department is the sole entity preventing their charter flights from leaving Afghanistan.

"This is zero place to be negotiating with American lives. Those are our people standing on the tarmac and all it takes is a f****ing phone call," one of those individuals, who has been integral to private evacuation efforts from Afghanistan, told Fox News.

"If one life is lost as a result of this, the blood is on the White House's hands. The blood is on their hands," that individual said, adding: "It is not the Taliban that is holding this up – as much as it sickens me to say that – it is the United States government."

That individual suggested that the State Department's obstruction is motivated in part by embarrassment that private individuals are rescuing Americans that the U.S. government left behind.

Military command over Al Udeid Air Base in Doha, Qatar, have informed those seeking clearance to land that they must first go through the State Department to gain approval, an email reviewed by Fox News shows.

Clay has a manifest of 4,500 names of U.S. citizens, green card holders, SIVs and refugees trying to get state-side. So far, they've given the State Department 800 names for a first round of flights. Fox News has reviewed that manifest, which confirms Clay's account.

"It is imperative that we get into Doha where there [are] other refugee centers," the PlanB founder told Fox News in a text message. "That is where I've asked for clearance."

Clay told Fox News that his organization is "having problems getting permission" from the Biden State Department "to land on the return flight" from Afghanistan in a neighboring country.

The State Department "is not allowing any private charters carrying refugees [to] land anywhere" in nearby countries if they are coming out of Afghanistan and is making different "excuses" as to why, such as pointing to the lack of air traffic controllers and radar issues, Clay told Fox News this week. The two other individuals separately involved in private evacuation efforts confirmed Clay's account.

"If we can get aircraft in and pick up people and bring them out, why can’t we take them to Doha to the refugee center or other refugee centers?" Clay remarked. "This makes no sense."

"We still have Americans we can get out," he added.

After making little to no progress with the State Department, Clay's group turned to senators from both parties: Sens. Tom Cotton, R-Ark., Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., and Ron Johnson, R-Wis., have all sought to help PlanB and other organizations secure the approval they need to get the evacuees safely out of Afghanistan, organizers and Senate staffers told Fox News.

Clay received word on Thursday that their flights out of Afghanistan would eventually receive approval following the State Department's review of their manifest — a task that could take several days even as just the initial 800 names are subjected to the vetting process.

As of Sunday evening, the State Department had yet to give PlanB the green light to land any of their flights in any countries neighboring Afghanistan.

The two other Americans involved in another private evacuation effort told Fox News that the State Department has secured them clearance to land in a neighboring country and that the Taliban has given them the green light to take off, dependent on State Department approval – which hasn't come.


Meanwhile, Taliban fighters are reportedly carrying out executions against those who helped American troops during the war.

Clay shared some of the messages that he has received from a family on the PlanB manifest list that he has been in contact with.

"Please save us as soon as possible," one message said. "My family and I are facing a lot of problems. My children’s health is deteriorating day by day due to many worries."

"On the other hand, there are reports that the Taliban have recruited people in the Ministry of Technology and Communications to find people who will cooperate with US forces," the person said. "If they find out anything about me, they will kill me and my family."


Johnson told Fox News in a statement that it is "hard to believe that the U.S. government would deny American citizens and Afghan allies who helped save American lives the ability to evacuate Afghanistan."

"However, what we've been hearing from people actually involved in evacuation is completely different from the administration's rosy spin," the senator said. "When I hear President Biden declare this debacle an ‘extraordinary success’ it not only shows he’s detached from reality, it also calls into question everything this administration is telling the American people."

During a briefing on Thursday, White House press secretary Jen Psaki and State Department spokesman Ned Price both denied that the Biden administration was preventing planes from leaving Afghanistan.

The State Department pointed Fox News to Price's remarks Thursday in lieu of a comment for this article.
The more I read, the more it seems like it is impossible to screw up this hard on accident. Yet, I have trouble seeing what the administration would gain by leading all these people to the slaughter like this.

Fedgov is a plague on humanity.

they don't gain or lose anything.

it is simply the Obama era arrogance that we simply do not matter, only the king and his men do.

This fedgov Is demonic. Only luciferians could be so uncaring. They simply do not care or have something else in the horizon on the agenda.

Why do you think, per the other thread, the Taliban has stopped six commercial flights?

Biden and DOS are working hand in hand with the Taliban, probably with input from the Chinese.

FJB, fuck anyone who voted for him, fuck the swamp, fuck the deep state, fuck BHO, fuck Pelosi, and on, and on, and on.......I can't type all nite...

Yet we just sit here and bitch on the internet

What?  The State Dept now gives permission for planes to land in other countries?  LOL.  

Who needs the taliban when you have Democrats.

Oh you just wait....there will be clever memes posted soon!

The state department is dragging their feet because the Taliban have communicated to the US .gov that they don’t want specific people leaving the country.

This is all so transparent it’s not even funny.  Fed .gov spokespeople have been saying for weeks that we’ve been relying on the Taliban for 1001 things to facilitate our withdrawal.  You didn’t think all of that assistance was going to be free, did you?

I'm convinced they want dead americans, I'm just not sure why.

Kind of feels like January 6, where there's a pre-loaded narrative based on a very negative outcome that didn't happen, and
what's happened in AFG isn't bad enough (yet.)

Why are they asking for permission from the State Department?

Meanwhile at the US/Mexico border Millions of illegal immigrants have crossed the border. Bearing gifts of Covid, Fentanyl, Heroin, Human Trafficking and other good things

Contractor-retired USAF combat controller with JSOC-heavily involved in coordinating the rescue of Americans and others from Afghanistan was in my office on Thursday. He told me all flights out of Kabul were stopped as of that day.  

He said outbound costs were around $600,00.00-$1,000,000.00+ per charter flight (mostly eastern European companies) just for fuel.  He also said it was all paid for by money from private and corporate donations.  

He was exasperated with the process.

so they can enter US Airspace?

They will all burn in hell for eternity.  Absolute reprobate POSs.

they want to keep those left behind from bad mouthing the sham federal government

Fly to Mexico  and walk north.

I guess the State Dept / club Fed has decided they haven't fucked this up enough yet.

Sacrificing some of our own now while pretending to seek their return would provide justification to retaliate against the party of their choice later, because Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia.

Couldn’t tell you.  My assumption would be that DoS is running the refugee processing centers in these neighboring countries, and due to our heavy involvement there, pressure is being exerted to disallow use of said countries airspace until someone from US .gov has approved.

The Middle East and our alliances with different countries are a fucking goat rope on the best of days.  It’s well within the realm of possibility that DoS approval is required before attempting to go anywhere within the region with a plane load of refugees.

You're right, we do too much of that. I went and found some charities we can support, if people want to put their money where their mouth is.

Operation We Care: Global Afghan Evacuation

Fundraising for the Panjshir Valley

Help Wounded Marine Cpl Wyatt Wilson

Help Wounded Marine Sergeant Tyler Vargas

Help Wounded Marine Corporal Kelsee Lainhart

Help Wounded Marine  Lance Corporal Romel Finley III

our .gov is evil

That makes sense.

The title says the DoS is blocking them "From Leaving Afghanistan".
But it sounds like the DoS is trying to block refugees from the US gubbment teat.

BREAKING: US State Dept officials in Central Asian and Middle Eastern countries are blocking private rescue flights from landing there with evacuees from Afghanistan, per veteran members, even after countries have privately agreed to take the evacuees.

— Jack Posobiec \uD83C\uDDFA\uD83C\uDDF8 (@JackPosobiec) September 6, 2021

Well, as usual, someone needs their ass beat.

Again-
A Neutron device detonating over Washington DC, would only make me weep for the museums, exhibits and buildings.

Thanks for posting I will help.

This!
Just fly the fucking airplanes to Mexico and walk across the damn border… what’s going to happen? Are they going to arrest you? Lol.

Thread needs the “There’s a fucking surprise” gif.

There seems to be two sides of this Biden admin and one side is winning.

If you wanted to promote political Islam as a solution to the ME and as a power broker (Muslim Brotherhood ideology) across the region, whether it's northern Africa or Afghanistan/Pakistan, why not give the Taliban legitimacy?

Furthermore, if you wanted the US/West to have lesser influence over said nations what would convince many of the west's people that meddling in those affairs is no longer productive?

Who has been considered the leader of the west and suddenly found a way to screw it all up worse than it has been over a period of months?  

The west globalists (state/CIA) fought and argued and leaked but it's clear that the far-leftist globalists (Biden/DOD leadership) have pulled ahead and those Fabian socialists of all those groups are now leading the charge.

Look at who is "helping" the Taliban...Turkey and Qatar.  The two leading supporters of the Brotherhood and their Islam as a politics ideology.  The more problems people get into with the Taliban the more reasons there are to negotiate with the Taliban and give them legitimacy.  

Sure, Trump "talked to the Taliban."  Why no one fucking talked to the Pakis/Saudis about this...well let's just avoid the elephant in the room about it shall we...oh and China as well.  It's literally going to be like 1984 with the three factions (China/Russia, the Brotherhood nations, and the wests globohomo agenda).

But they'll give Safe Haven to 100,000 Afghanistan's over here.

The US government is so fucked up.

because the DoD, who controls the .mil assets in the area kicked the can to the DoS.

While they are technically separate, they all get their orders from the White House. So if Biden and Co are telling someone to fuck off, it'll be a pretty unanimous fuck off.


having said that, if it were me, I would reach out to the Brits or Germans to see if they can offer any help. They are probably pissed off enough at Biden to at least get people out of the country.......


basically this

Hydrogen is the key.

The more hostages that are left behind the greater the payment to the Taliban.

Fuck em. Don't go to the US, land where they can, and work your way to Mexico. Once there, just cross the border. Hell, they'll end up as Super Citizens if they play it right.

Of all the fucked up departments of the Fed.gov, State is the most consistently feckless, counterproductive and routinely hostile to US interests.

It's the home of the Mandarins, all the John Kerrys of the country.

Thank you. I just wish I could give more. If any of you find other groups worth supporting, please post them in here!

drug smuggling flights.... take off from some place and fly low all the way out....

Jimmy Carter is doing backflips. I'm , sadly, not at all shocked at how our .Gov behaves.

Well we need to call our local congress critters or at least email them in the next 24 hours.

No issue getting the 120,000 randoms, child molesters, drug addicts and a probably not small number of terrorists here.

But the people who should be allowed to come home or get here? Yeah, fuck those guys.

State Department is a wholly owned subsidiary of foreign NGOs, they do what they’re told which is why they fought Trump so hard…,

The stories I have heard involved the state department meeting with nations that aid agencies has worked out a deal, be it refugee status or just dropping people on a tarmac to pick up more since time was off the essence, with the people eventually being flown to nations that would grant refugee status and take them.

One specific case Macedonia had agreed to temporarily shelter evacuees but at the last minute the Macedonian ambassador was called to the state department in DC and told not to allow this fight in.

Other stories of the state department requiring different levels of paperwork.  On the military side there were just going out blank forms for the evacuees to fill out as they wanted.  Private rescue had tons of hoops to jump through including changing the forms mid evacuation, and narrow Windows to have your paperwork in order and narrow departure criteria that if any of it is out of order, or late, or delayed like the plane has a mechanical issue the aid agency needed to get a new clearance.

This should have been a military operation from the start.

Not sure if it’s true, but I’ve heard the nation where the plane is owned needs approval before take off to be accepted by the third party nation.  The DoS has been dragging feet either being over loaded by requests, or it’s intentional.

Can’t have them getting credit and doing a better job than the govt

How are they stopping them?  The troops left.