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Posted: 1/14/2021 10:25:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How's your latency? I'm waiting for them to open up in our area, I live in BFE and can't get crap for internet. Too many trees to get local wireless ISP's high-speed internet. I'd have to put up a 75' tower. Barely get 4GLTE here, so hotspot is slightly better than dsl speeds.... As of ten seconds ago I'm at 21ms. Highest over last hour was 32ms. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 10:28:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not that bad honestly. That sounds like it would solve the "no internet/suckiest internet imaginable" problem of having a house way out in the woods. Yep. I live in a tiny town in one of the most rural counties in the country. The only reason I have a home in my town is my job depends on even a little internet. Now, I'm moving fulltime to my off the grid property a few miles away because I can at least work. It was nice having no phone or internet there. But, it's better than having neighbors. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 10:32:26 PM EDT
[#3]
This is available by invitation? How does one get a Beta invite?
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Posted: 1/14/2021 10:33:01 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is available by invitation? How does one get a Beta invite? Starlink.com |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 10:35:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not connected to it at the moment to get actually latency. But speedtests I saved show the ping at about the same as what 4g is for me, and half that of my dsl. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How’s the latency? Not connected to it at the moment to get actually latency. But speedtests I saved show the ping at about the same as what 4g is for me, and half that of my dsl. It ought to be good enough for VoIP / sip trunking then. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 10:44:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It ought to be good enough for VoIP / sip trunking then. First 2 weeks I had it voip would cut out occasionally. Crystal clear now. Only have hangouts so I can speak for other providers. Since mod December I have been using wifi calling for 100% of my phone use and only had one dropped call. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 10:59:51 PM EDT
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I signed up months ago, but haven't heard anything. My service peaks at 30/10, so this will make my wife's teleworking much less stressful.
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Posted: 1/14/2021 11:21:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As of ten seconds ago I'm at 21ms. Highest over last hour was 32ms. That's totally doable. Thanks! ETA: Are you seeing 75-100Mbps bidirectional, or just down? If just down, what are your upload speeds? Just curious. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 11:49:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here is an awesome map that shows where the satellites are |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:21:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I signed up months ago, but haven't heard anything. My service peaks at 30/10, so this will make my wife's teleworking much less stressful. They aren't even offering it to low latitudes in Texas yet. And if you're getting 30 down, you're not who they are getting it out to. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:23:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's totally doable. Thanks! ETA: Are you seeing 75-100Mbps bidirectional, or just down? If just down, what are your upload speeds? Just curious. Up is an average of 20-25 regularly. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:24:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Alaska's SOL for now I suppose, there's a big surprise They just launched their first polar coverage satellites that will hit Alaska this week. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:50:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Alaska's SOL for now I suppose, there's a big surprise Fuck. Hope that changes soon. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:53:52 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/15/2021 3:36:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. I live in a tiny town in one of the most rural counties in the country. The only reason I have a home in my town is my job depends on even a little internet. Now, I'm moving fulltime to my off the grid property a few miles away because I can at least work. It was nice having no phone or internet there. But, it's better than having neighbors. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not that bad honestly. That sounds like it would solve the "no internet/suckiest internet imaginable" problem of having a house way out in the woods. Yep. I live in a tiny town in one of the most rural counties in the country. The only reason I have a home in my town is my job depends on even a little internet. Now, I'm moving fulltime to my off the grid property a few miles away because I can at least work. It was nice having no phone or internet there. But, it's better than having neighbors. Yep, I'd miss my 2-3ms gigabit symmetric, but damn if it's not a whole world better than the Hughesnet satellite i remember my parents back in the day with 400ms and a couple megabit at most. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 3:41:17 AM EDT
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I've checked my email specifically for a beta invite every day since November, when they sent me am email saying it was available in my area and to update my address... bastards were just teasing me
 Tired of the 3-4mbps DSL |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 3:55:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Last time I read about this, they were only going to start up with the northern US/southern Canada border area. Have they already expanded beyond that? |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 3:58:09 AM EDT
[#18]
That guy does not live remote... He lives in western Oregon in an area with crappy internet... LoL
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Posted: 1/15/2021 9:24:34 AM EDT
[#19]
Still waiting for it in WV. It really won't cost me much more as I can dump my phone data.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 9:28:57 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've checked my email specifically for a beta invite every day since November, when they sent me am email saying it was available in my area and to update my address... bastards were just teasing me Tired of the 3-4mbps DSL I'd kill for 3-4mbps DSL. The LTE monopoly in my area caps at 100-ish gigs for 100-ish dollars a month and insta-throttle the second you go over it. I dream daily of being able to have load balancing off two ISPs. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 9:31:22 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They block porn sites.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: all i wanna know is can i sell most my shit, buy a 30' rv trailer and drive to the middle of fucking nowhere and still get arfcom and.....i dunno, whatever else there is on the rest of the internet? We seriously need YouTube naked yoga back. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 9:35:21 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No limits. So it's the "there is a data limit but we won't tell you what it is" plan. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 9:46:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As of ten seconds ago I'm at 21ms. Highest over last hour was 32ms. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How's your latency? I'm waiting for them to open up in our area, I live in BFE and can't get crap for internet. Too many trees to get local wireless ISP's high-speed internet. I'd have to put up a 75' tower. Barely get 4GLTE here, so hotspot is slightly better than dsl speeds.... As of ten seconds ago I'm at 21ms. Highest over last hour was 32ms. At first I was wondering how this is possible, considering all satellite is usually in the 600-700ms range. But looking it up, it's because the Starlink satellites are ~340 miles vs. the ~22,000 miles of geostationary links. Makes sense now. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 9:47:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Starlink was never for you. Ever. You already have options that are light years ahead of of the 2.5mpbs on a good day dsl that is my only option. I don't get over the air TV. Can't get an am/fm radio channel. No noaa weather where I live. And my internet was so slow I couldn't stream a YouTube video during the day. To do any sort of work, I had to do all my stuff offline, drive 20 minutes away to just get a 4g signal that actually worked. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Meh. I had high hopes for starlink, but not for what they're charging. I've got Tmobile home internet and get the speeds below every day, and truly unlimited, used 2TB last month. All for $50/month https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/177685/SmartSelect_20201216-053946_Speedtest_jp-1779468.JPG Starlink was never for you. Ever. You already have options that are light years ahead of of the 2.5mpbs on a good day dsl that is my only option. I don't get over the air TV. Can't get an am/fm radio channel. No noaa weather where I live. And my internet was so slow I couldn't stream a YouTube video during the day. To do any sort of work, I had to do all my stuff offline, drive 20 minutes away to just get a 4g signal that actually worked.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 9:48:39 AM EDT
[#25]
YouTube naked yoga was good while it lasted.
Quote HistoryQuoted: We seriously need YouTube naked yoga back. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: all i wanna know is can i sell most my shit, buy a 30' rv trailer and drive to the middle of fucking nowhere and still get arfcom and.....i dunno, whatever else there is on the rest of the internet? We seriously need YouTube naked yoga back. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 9:52:24 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So it's the "there is a data limit but we won't tell you what it is" plan. If you read the terms and conditions it will be spelled out. Same with cellular providers, they say "unlimited" but in the fine print define what unlimited means in the context of the service. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:01:01 AM EDT
[#27]
Thanks for that. Great video for anyone who's been curious about how starlink was going to work out.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:10:33 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That guy does not live remote... He lives in western Oregon in an area with crappy internet... LoL Nah, he's in WA, just north of white salmon. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:10:47 AM EDT
[#29]
6/10
Use of the word "Homestead" And inaccurately reporting internet speeds. 100 Megabits, not Megabytes Mbps =/= MB/s |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:29:53 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 6/10 Use of the word "Homestead" And inaccurately reporting internet speeds. 100 Megabits, not Megabytes Mbps =/= MB/s If you're going to lecture everyone at least provide the conversion. 8Mbps = 1 MBps so 12.5 megabytes. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 10:58:48 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You're not supposed to use away from the address you've told them. But, I've taken mine to where the closest house to me is 12 miles away, and had it work. Just have to be where the satellites are. Here is an awesome map that shows where the satellites are and who has coverage below them. You won't get service when you're not in the circle, and that's not a joke. You can be looking at where you're at on that map, and when the circle is not where you are, starlink goes down, and will take 2-3 minutes when you get back in a circle coverage area for it to reacquire the sats. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: all i wanna know is can i sell most my shit, buy a 30' rv trailer and drive to the middle of fucking nowhere and still get arfcom and.....i dunno, whatever else there is on the rest of the internet? You're not supposed to use away from the address you've told them. But, I've taken mine to where the closest house to me is 12 miles away, and had it work. Just have to be where the satellites are. Here is an awesome map that shows where the satellites are and who has coverage below them. You won't get service when you're not in the circle, and that's not a joke. You can be looking at where you're at on that map, and when the circle is not where you are, starlink goes down, and will take 2-3 minutes when you get back in a circle coverage area for it to reacquire the sats. Thanks for the map link. I had no idea Musk had put 800 of those into space. He sure has accomplished some amazing stuff! |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:05:34 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks for the map link. I had no idea Musk had put 800 of those into space. He sure has accomplished some amazing stuff! Almost 900 now. At a cost of less then a cell tower each... The 900 of them may have cost less then a single Hughes net did including launch costs. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:11:37 AM EDT
[#33]
36mbps download speed as of 10 seconds ago and 39ms latency.
I have noticed that I get a 1 or 2 second drop in service every hour or so, enough to boot me from call of duty sometimes. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:10:16 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like I won't be switching from my cell modem. I get over 200 frequently on 4G and I'm hoping once 5G it's my area be even better. And it's less than $50/mo for true unlimited. @ztug Are you grandfathered in or do you have an unlimited plan that throttles after a certain point? |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:16:29 PM EDT
[#35]
How does the satellite dish follow those near-Earth satellites? They move fast, and each would only stay in view for a few minutes, and then wouldn't the dish have to jump to another one?
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:23:49 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How does the satellite dish follow those near-Earth satellites? They move fast, and each would only stay in view for a few minutes, and then wouldn't the dish have to jump to another one? Active phased array, like the radar in an F-22.  Starlink Teardown: DISHY DESTROYED! |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:26:07 PM EDT
[#37]
No Florida coverage according to that map. :(
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:37:01 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How does the satellite dish follow those near-Earth satellites? They move fast, and each would only stay in view for a few minutes, and then wouldn't the dish have to jump to another one? The dosh has a bunch of antennas that can look qt multiple things and the hardware/software does the computing for where to send and pick up signals from. Not a lot different than woth cell service driving down the road and hitting different towers as ones become stronger in signal. Instead of your cellphone moving in your car, the towers are moving around you. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:44:03 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Starlink was never for you. Ever. You already have options that are light years ahead of of the 2.5mpbs on a good day dsl that is my only option. I don't get over the air TV. Can't get an am/fm radio channel. No noaa weather where I live. And my internet was so slow I couldn't stream a YouTube video during the day. To do any sort of work, I had to do all my stuff offline, drive 20 minutes away to just get a 4g signal that actually worked. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:05:57 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Correct. I pay from $200 to almost $300 month for average speeds with 3 kids home for school. We hit the data cap 250G quickly and when yo go over they slam you. I can not wait until I can pay $99. Yep. I paid almost as much as starlink to only have internet that only works after 8pm. I'm paying $120 a month for a data plan that I have to drive 20 miles away to even send a text picture. Over $200 a month, plus $120 in gas a month, just to send some excel files during business hours. I couldn't even get hughesnet due to my latitude and proximity to 10k foot peaks to my south. My internet was so bad, that once a month when I drive 90 miles one way to the closest costco/Walmart I would take 3 laptops with me and park near free wifi and bus/walk around to do my shopping while they downloaded 3-4 movies I would watch 20 times each for the next month until I did it again. My internet was so bad, that even music I had on Spotify would shut off until I went back into service so it could ping the servers. There were times where I we would go on offroading trips to where I knew we had good cell phone signal, and I would take my kindle and get a dozen new books while we stopped for lunch. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:24:02 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You're not supposed to use away from the address you've told them. But, I've taken mine to where the closest house to me is 12 miles away, and had it work. Just have to be where the satellites are. Here is an awesome map that shows where the satellites are and who has coverage below them. You won't get service when you're not in the circle, and that's not a joke. You can be looking at where you're at on that map, and when the circle is not where you are, starlink goes down, and will take 2-3 minutes when you get back in a circle coverage area for it to reacquire the sats. If you're near McGregor or Boca Chica, TX I bet you don't have to worry about dropped coverage.  ETA: Correction, Boca Chica just lost coverage and McGregor will shortly. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 1:47:08 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They aren't even offering it to low latitudes in Texas yet. And if you're getting 30 down, you're not who they are getting it out to. You realize that you're not the case study for requirements to qualify, right? Lol. Y'all definitely need it more, but 30 down at best, translates to what you're working with at peak times. I'm hoping it's available widely soon. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:51:24 PM EDT
[#43]
Pretty cool.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 2:57:49 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It actually had a built in heater. Spacex confirmed this, as did the several satellite tear downs floating around the internet. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 3:51:04 PM EDT
[#45]
I was amused at: " I gave the thing to my (15 year old) son, Jack. He had it working in 10 minutes..."
I wonder why a 15 year old son, who'd never had high speed internet, would go at such a feverish pace to see if it works as promised? Still scratching my head.  |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 3:58:12 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You realize that you're not the case study for requirements to qualify, right? Lol. Y'all definitely need it more, but 30 down at best, translates to what you're working with at peak times. I'm hoping it's available widely soon. What are you talking about. My area has literally been part of the case study area since they first rolled it out. And, were so case study, that there is a ground station 40 miles away as the crow flies from my ao. I've met the requirements for the beta study, have it, and get way better than 30 down. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 4:01:19 PM EDT
[#47]
I recall when Musk was planning this and the first thing i thought: High spoed internet, in a farmstead, 30 miles south of Boonie, SD., plus ramped up urban crime and leftist distruction in cities......Rural land prices are about to jump.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 4:02:23 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I recall when Musk was planning this and the first thing i thought: High spoed internet, in a farmstead, 30 miles south of Boonie, SD., plus ramped up urban crime and leftist distruction in cities......Rural land prices are about to jump. You're years late on that. Hell - it started before covid. Prices here in rural Montana are beginning to rival the coasts. |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 4:06:19 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You're years late on that. Hell - it started before covid. Prices here in rural Montana are beginning to rival the coasts. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I recall when Musk was planning this and the first thing i thought: High spoed internet, in a farmstead, 30 miles south of Boonie, SD., plus ramped up urban crime and leftist distruction in cities......Rural land prices are about to jump. You're years late on that. Hell - it started before covid. Prices here in rural Montana are beginning to rival the coasts. I've been window shopping for places in Idaho and any half decent house on an acre+ lot is crazy even the ones not close to anything 
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Posted: 1/15/2021 4:12:38 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You're years late on that. Hell - it started before covid. Prices here in rural Montana are beginning to rival the coasts. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I recall when Musk was planning this and the first thing i thought: High spoed internet, in a farmstead, 30 miles south of Boonie, SD., plus ramped up urban crime and leftist distruction in cities......Rural land prices are about to jump. You're years late on that. Hell - it started before covid. Prices here in rural Montana are beginning to rival the coasts. That was kind of different. The Calis infesting you particular state was the same as what is also happening to Texas. Saw that happen to CO back in the 70s before that. Purely economic. Recent turmoil, Musk's Skynet and the old economic aspects with put the urban outflux in turbo mode. |
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