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Posted: 1/12/2022 10:24:43 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4FishLimit]
Springfield just dropped this teaser on social media this morning:



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Oh, and IBFSA



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Officially named the 'Hellion', web page is now live:

https://www.springfield-armory.com/hellion-series/hellion-rifles/

Link Posted: 1/12/2022 10:32:27 AM EST
[Last Edit: Brok3n] [#1]
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Springfield.. should future owners print out their return labels for repairs in advance?
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 10:38:04 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Brok3n:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFRBgkQsMe0

Springfield.. should future owners print out their return labels for repairs in advance?
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See a normal person would automatically assume this is what their teaser is about. But then we're reminded that the ATC exists.
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 10:39:02 AM EST
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I just posted it over in their Industry forum.  

The sample they imported a few years ago was the VHS-K3, so three VHS tapes?  Plausible.

Or their marketing people are gigantic cockteases and it'll end up being another 1911 or something.
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 10:40:18 AM EST
[#4]
So, an RBD that's made by an actual gun manufacturer?  

Cool!
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 10:42:07 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Findsman:
I just posted it over in their Industry forum.  

The sample they imported a few years ago was the VHS-K3, so three VHS tapes?  Plausible.

Or their marketing people are gigantic cockteases and it'll end up being another 1911 or something.
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Link Posted: 1/12/2022 10:45:44 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Brok3n:
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Springfield.. should future owners print out their return labels for repairs in advance?
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Known for great customer service. Because it is used..a lot.
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 10:46:27 AM EST
[#7]
Unless they were able to switch to Stanag mags instead of the proprietary mags, no care.
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 10:46:54 AM EST
[#8]
Another plastic striker fired gun that no one wants?
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 10:47:04 AM EST
[Last Edit: MVolkJ] [#9]
Oh, shit.

I want one of those in the worst way. (The VHS rifle)

Between this and the SA-35, Springfield is going to get some cash from me this year...
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 10:48:32 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Findsman:


Or their marketing people are gigantic cockteases and it'll end up being another 1911 or something.
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Any one in marketing nowadays is probably too young to know what a VHS tape is, so....
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 10:48:42 AM EST
[#11]
Will it have important parts held in by glue instead of pins?
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 10:50:53 AM EST
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Originally Posted By itstock:
Unless they were able to switch to Stanag mags instead of the proprietary mags, no care.
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VHS-2 uses STANAG mags, so... yes?
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 10:54:59 AM EST
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Originally Posted By MVolkJ:


VHS-2 uses STANAG mags, so... yes?
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Originally Posted By MVolkJ:
Originally Posted By itstock:
Unless they were able to switch to Stanag mags instead of the proprietary mags, no care.


VHS-2 uses STANAG mags, so... yes?


Interchangeable mag wells according to Gun Jesus:

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Dat grenade launcher though!

Link Posted: 1/12/2022 10:55:07 AM EST
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Only took 10 seconds…

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Link Posted: 1/12/2022 10:57:08 AM EST
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Originally Posted By MVolkJ:


VHS-2 uses STANAG mags, so... yes?
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Originally Posted By MVolkJ:
Originally Posted By itstock:
Unless they were able to switch to Stanag mags instead of the proprietary mags, no care.


VHS-2 uses STANAG mags, so... yes?


The one to be originally imported had proprietary, so no clue.

ETA: Answered above.
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 10:57:26 AM EST
[#16]
Oh shit the madlads are actually going to import them?
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 10:59:17 AM EST
[#17]
Only bullpup that kind of interests me.
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 10:59:54 AM EST
[#18]
I would buy one
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 11:00:25 AM EST
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Originally Posted By cccollin545:
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All depends on pricing.
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 11:00:57 AM EST
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Originally Posted By DeltaElite777:


All depends on pricing.
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Originally Posted By DeltaElite777:
Originally Posted By cccollin545:
I would buy one


All depends on pricing.


Me too, 2k and below I’ll bite
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 11:01:04 AM EST
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Originally Posted By 74novaman:
Only bullpup that kind of interests me.
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I'd rather have the F90.  
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 11:02:32 AM EST
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Originally Posted By 4FishLimit:


Interchangeable mag wells according to Gun Jesus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A-1lBWqHrw

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Dat grenade launcher though!

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I knew it was something like that. That's a really cool idea.
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 11:05:19 AM EST
[#23]
Cool.
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 11:06:35 AM EST
[Last Edit: walkinginadangerzone] [#24]
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Saw that, fucking LOL.
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 11:06:41 AM EST
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Originally Posted By DeltaElite777:
So, an RBD that's made by an actual gun manufacturer?  

Cool!
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Lol, true. If this is a real thing I might have to get one
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 11:10:21 AM EST
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Originally Posted By DeltaElite777:
So, an RBD that's made by an actual gun manufacturer?  

Cool!
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I like the RDB. It's the best bullup I've played with, and it's the first one I actually took home.
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 11:17:37 AM EST
[#27]
Not too familiar with the VHS. But what is HK's part in it? Cuz that thing has some VERY HK styling to it.
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 11:17:48 AM EST
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Originally Posted By cccollin545:


Me too, 2k and below I’ll bite
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Yup. If this is in the same price range as the AUG/Tavor, I'm in!
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 11:41:38 AM EST
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Originally Posted By MVolkJ:


I knew it was something like that. That's a really cool idea.
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Originally Posted By MVolkJ:
Originally Posted By 4FishLimit:


Interchangeable mag wells according to Gun Jesus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A-1lBWqHrw

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Dat grenade launcher though!



I knew it was something like that. That's a really cool idea.

Ian probably covered it in greater detail, but the very first prototypes of the VHS used AR/M16 mags.  Then they transitioned to G36-pattern ones since Croatia had far more of those in inventory than the AR/M16 type.  The VHS-2 was modular in that regard and could be configured for either one.  The CZ Bren 805 was setup much the same for the same reasons.  In the early 2000s, there were more G36s in Europe than M16s.  With the HK416 catching on everywhere, that's changing the status quo quite a lot.

I hope IF we get a VHS-K3 that it retains that modular capability and the G36-type magazine well is available.  My Bren 805 is setup for G36 mags (the "retro" mag well) and I have quite enough HK, CZ, and Magpul G36 mags to feed both.  
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 11:45:09 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Findsman:

I hope IF we get a VHS-K3 that it retains that modular capability and the G36-type magazine well is available.  My Bren 805 is setup for G36 mags (the "retro" mag well) and I have quite enough HK, CZ, and Magpul G36 mags to feed both.  
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Me too. It really is a neat idea. Maybe they could ship the gun with the STANAG magwell, but offer the G36 ones as an option - and maybe even add one for AUG mags, as I know there are lots of those out there as well.
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 11:45:55 AM EST
[#31]
Shut up and take my money!
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 11:54:39 AM EST
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Originally Posted By 18B30:
Shut up and take my money!
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Link Posted: 1/12/2022 12:02:17 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/12/2022 12:04:08 PM EST
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Figured they were getting in on the 30 Super Carry
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 12:04:41 PM EST
[#35]
Very cool 😎
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 12:09:02 PM EST
[#36]
Well that’s different
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 12:18:45 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Nickel_Plated:
Not too familiar with the VHS. But what is HK's part in it? Cuz that thing has some VERY HK styling to it.
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Nothing that I'm aware of. As was said, the Croatian military ones are set up to use G36 mags because Croatia has a lot of those. Other than that the gun is really more of a product-improved FAMAS (and the original VHS was very FAMAS, at least externally) than anything else.
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 12:19:59 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MVolkJ:


Nothing that I'm aware of. As was said, the Croatian military ones are set up to use G36 mags because Croatia has a lot of those. Other than that the gun is really more of a product-improved FAMAS (and the original VHS was very FAMAS) than anything else.
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Originally Posted By MVolkJ:
Originally Posted By Nickel_Plated:
Not too familiar with the VHS. But what is HK's part in it? Cuz that thing has some VERY HK styling to it.


Nothing that I'm aware of. As was said, the Croatian military ones are set up to use G36 mags because Croatia has a lot of those. Other than that the gun is really more of a product-improved FAMAS (and the original VHS was very FAMAS) than anything else.


Other than the selector markings and the charging handle, I don't see much H&K lineage myself.
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 1:28:28 PM EST
[#39]
What is this?

Link Posted: 1/12/2022 1:31:20 PM EST
[#40]
Depending on price, I might bite.  Would accompany my Tavor nicely
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 1:33:07 PM EST
[#41]
Its length of pull looks a mile long but I really want one. It looks far too tech-noir to not have.
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 1:36:14 PM EST
[#42]
I would be on a VHS-2 like a bum on a bologna samich


Link Posted: 1/12/2022 1:37:10 PM EST
[#43]
Hopefully, it's in 9mm Luger or 5.56 NATO.
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 1:39:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By doty_soty:
Its length of pull looks a mile long but I really want one. It looks far too tech-noir to not have.
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LOP looks adjustable... which is pretty fucking cool for a bullpup.
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 1:39:42 PM EST
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Originally Posted By doty_soty:
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LOP should be adjustable from what I remember.
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 1:41:55 PM EST
[#46]
I've been hoping for years that someone would import these. Figured it would never happen. FAMAS aesthetic without the wonky FAMAS operating system.
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 1:44:25 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Elcunning:

I would be on a VHS-2 like a bum on a bologna samich

https://www.dandbmilitaria.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/2/3/232db_2_16.jpg
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Is it me or is the LOP really long?

Edit: Ah adjustable.

Looks like its 3 notches out.

I wish there was a way to get this without the Springfield armory logo on it
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 2:20:25 PM EST
[#48]
The VHS wins the award for ugliest bullpup.
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 2:31:34 PM EST
[#49]
In on a VHS like a 17 year old in his hot high school teacher
Link Posted: 1/12/2022 2:53:25 PM EST
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Originally Posted By maleante:
What is this?

https://i.imgur.com/PlEJxtW.jpg
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Probably something to do with whatever name they give it...similar to how they teased the Hellcat:

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