So with universal masking, how do deaf people read lips?

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Posted: 1/19/2021 11:14:23 AM EDT

Seems like it should violate the ADA somehow.

Posted: 1/19/2021 11:15:28 AM EDT

[#1]

They don’t.

Fuck everything about masks. I hate them and the people who push them.

Posted: 1/19/2021 11:16:31 AM EDT

[#2]

It def is a problem for some folks. I've had to lower my mask at times to be understood, but don't tell anyone

Posted: 1/19/2021 11:16:59 AM EDT

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I have a deaf employee, she’s really struggling with this.

Posted: 1/19/2021 11:17:49 AM EDT

[#4]

I'm not deaf but reading lips sure as hell helps communication at work.
Huh?! is the new most common reply.

Posted: 1/19/2021 11:19:39 AM EDT

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Mebbe maskers should all go to plastic bags instead. Look mom! I'm a NASA spaceman. Back in the '60s there used to be ads warning kids not to play spaceman that way.

Posted: 1/19/2021 11:19:40 AM EDT

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We are likely to have allot of children with real developmental problems as well. Imagine the untold cost of babies not being able to see peoples expressions or themselves learn language visually as well. The cost of C19 will not be known in it's entirety for decades.

Posted: 1/19/2021 11:20:47 AM EDT

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I'm not deaf but reading lips sure as hell helps communication at work.
Huh?! is the new most common reply.

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I have to say, "I'm sorry?" probably a couple dozen times a day. When you hear a constant "Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" in your ears all day long, and someone comes up to you and says, "Mumblemumblemumble" it's infuriating.

Posted: 1/19/2021 11:21:33 AM EDT

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Fuck deaf people. Why do they want everyone to die from COVID?

Posted: 1/19/2021 11:22:13 AM EDT

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Same thing at my place of employment. The deaf guy has had to be involved in masked meetings recently. Completely pointless.

Posted: 1/19/2021 11:23:13 AM EDT

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https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/health/g33471599/best-clear-face-masks/

Posted: 1/19/2021 11:24:25 AM EDT

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I've never been around a deaf person. Are they usually able to read lips?

Posted: 1/19/2021 11:24:59 AM EDT

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It extends beyond deaf to dementia and alzheimer's patients. Difficulty hearing people talking and not being able to pick up facial cues can make it difficult for them to understand what is being said.

Posted: 1/19/2021 11:25:14 AM EDT

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WTF?

Posted: 1/19/2021 11:28:48 AM EDT

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Hmm, I don’t know what makes me more uneasy: that someone invented the product or that there is a good housekeeping article on it.

Posted: 1/19/2021 11:30:13 AM EDT

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Posted: 1/19/2021 11:31:46 AM EDT

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I am not "deaf" but I have been whatting everyone to death. I didn't realize the extent I was actually reading lips until the China virus came around.

Posted: 1/19/2021 11:34:45 AM EDT

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Same thing at my place of employment. The deaf guy has had to be involved in masked meetings recently. Completely pointless.

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I have a deaf employee, she’s really struggling with this.

Same thing at my place of employment. The deaf guy has had to be involved in masked meetings recently. Completely pointless.

If I was that deaf guy, I would ask my boss what exactly I was supposed to get out of meetings where I can’t hear anyone, and I can’t read lips. I can’t imagine the rage.

Posted: 1/19/2021 11:34:48 AM EDT

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They don't. I wear hearing aids, but still watch people's mouth to fully understand them. With mask
Them: Do you want ground beef or ground pork?
Me: Yes, the lamb sounds good.

Posted: 1/19/2021 11:35:33 AM EDT

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I didn't realize how much I rely on reading lips until masks.

Im not deaf by any means, but in a crowd or with a bunch of background noise, my brain focuses on all the other BS noise and not the person right across the table speaking to me. My stupid brain will pickup some jackass' voice 30 feet across the room but it won't allow me to concentrate on the person right across from me. So to offset this, I unknowingly got pretty good at reading lips.

Now with masks, that crutch is gone. Im basically just faking it half the time in conversations because I can't hear/tune into the conversation. Add in the muffled bullshit caused by the masks and I just smile and wave.

Posted: 1/19/2021 11:35:34 AM EDT

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It should. I'm deaf and it's a massive pain in the ass. Sign language isn't an option and I have to rely on someone I'm familiar with to understand what the other person is saying.

Posted: 1/19/2021 11:37:37 AM EDT

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Sending swat to shoot your dog

Posted: 1/19/2021 11:42:15 AM EDT

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I had to get between a valet and my Uber driver in Florida because of that.

The valet was escalating pretty quickly because he thought the driver was ignoring him. I was getting my bags out of the trunk and tried to tell him, but he wasn't paying attention to me. I had to walk over, step in front of him and say "bro, he's deaf! ".

"Oh. I assumed he was being passive aggressive."

Posted: 1/19/2021 12:07:46 PM EDT

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They don’t.

Fuck everything about masks. I hate them and the people who push them.

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this

Posted: 1/19/2021 12:14:57 PM EDT

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Everyone has to be accompanied by a personal sign-language interpreter at all times now.

Posted: 1/19/2021 12:19:09 PM EDT

[#25]

One thing that masks have brought to the surface for me is how bad my hearing actually is and how much I depend on reading lips when people are talking to me.....

- Clint

Posted: 1/19/2021 12:19:24 PM EDT

[#26]

I'm not deaf, I have pretty good hearing, fuck if I can understand half the shit people say while wearing a mask.

Posted: 1/19/2021 12:20:08 PM EDT

[#27]

I’m not even deaf and this whole thing has shown me how much I rely on lip reading. Fuck masks.

Posted: 1/19/2021 12:20:12 PM EDT

[#28]

Discrimination......sign language?

Posted: 1/19/2021 12:24:35 PM EDT

[#29]

blindfolded?

Posted: 1/19/2021 12:25:22 PM EDT

[#30]

This is all just a plot to silence deaf people

Posted: 1/19/2021 12:35:10 PM EDT

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One thing that masks have brought to the surface for me is how bad my hearing actually is and how much I depend on reading lips when people are talking to me.....

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I'm in the same boat. The constant EEEEEEEEeeeeEEEEEeeeeEEEEEEeeeeEEEeEEEEEEEeeeeeee and not being able to pick up on reading lips and facial cues is making my job much more difficult in the nursing field where 100% clear, concise, unambiguous communication is required. I basically either say what or huh a lot or just stare at them until they realize I don't understand what the fuck they're saying. Work is so much fun now.

I can actually hear sounds but my hearing loss is largely related to nerve damage from being blown up and having been on the receiving end of many RPGs, mortar, and rocket attacks. The nerve damage makes it difficult to interpret the nerve impulse my ears are sending to my brain. The tinnitus I suffer from starts in the 7000mHz range and is really, really loud. So that prevents me from hearing even normal conversational sounds in the first place.

Posted: 1/19/2021 12:40:30 PM EDT

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It does, but The Courts have decreed the ADA is null and void by public health hazards.

Posted: 1/19/2021 12:51:44 PM EDT

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They don’t.

Fuck everything about masks. I hate them and the people who push them.

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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:53:49 PM EDT

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I'm not deaf but reading lips sure as hell helps communication at work.
Huh?! is the new most common reply.

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I realized recently I watch certain people talking to understand them.
Add in the muffled whagarbleflufferlump and it sucks.

Posted: 1/19/2021 12:55:14 PM EDT

[#35]

They can’t and many I know have basically broke down in tears because of the bullshit and people screaming at them when they can’t understand something being said

Posted: 1/19/2021 12:56:08 PM EDT

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That's almost as ridiculous as the collars of shame spit cups that don't come up to your nose I see tards wearing.

Posted: 1/19/2021 12:57:49 PM EDT

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I'm extremely hard of hearing, and I've trained myself to understand people with a combination of what hearing I have left coupled with lip reading, and it is terribly difficult when folks have masks on.

Posted: 1/19/2021 12:58:39 PM EDT

[#38]

They don't.

Ask me how I know.

Posted: 1/19/2021 12:59:09 PM EDT

[#39]

Who cares ? Do you want to kill Gramma ?

Posted: 1/19/2021 12:59:22 PM EDT

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They don’t.

Fuck everything about masks. I hate them and the people who push them.

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Posted: 1/19/2021 1:03:44 PM EDT

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Add people that have hearing issues. I have a little less issue now since it seems people have started to automatically
start talking louder when they put a mask on.