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Link Posted: 10/13/2021 3:50:07 PM EDT
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I think we should just bitch about and denigrate the few politicians who were trying to stop this because they weren't perfect.

Hey how about those mean tweets and those stupid rubes who supported the guy who made them. We sure showed everyone else how smart we were compared to them.
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 3:55:47 PM EDT
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Did we just become best friends?

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Link Posted: 10/13/2021 4:00:26 PM EDT
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Don't worry, the staunch,  strong, and conservative Republicans will be along shortly with harsh words....HARSH WORDS I tell you!!!

Take that destroyers of America.
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 4:02:37 PM EDT
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I am tired of it. If I didnt have two kids to protect, my ass would be on the news.
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 4:20:02 PM EDT
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I don't even really need to say this, I'm sure... but if this passes, it's over.

It already pretty much IS over but this will be the final nail in the coffin of America. This is a wish list of everything our political enemies have dreamed of having funding for their entire lives. It's like America is a burning house with fire in seven different places and this bill squirts gasoline on every one of them. Trillions of dollars thrown at every progressive agenda and pet project imaginable.

Another analogy would be America is a garden with lots of crops growing despite a pretty bad season. This bill withholds water for the crops, fires the gardeners, plants more weeds, waters the weeds and ONLY the weeds, poisons half the garden because why not, not only attracts and encourages pests but sets out food as an appetizer for them, kicks the garden wall down and gives the potatoes to charity. Oh, and then puts up solar panels that block sunlight to the remaining crops.
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 4:34:06 PM EDT
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Doomed.
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This ^^^^

Once this passes and is implemented it will be impossible to come back from!  It will devastate what's left of our economy!
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 4:41:13 PM EDT
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A big one missed in the OP:

Report every transaction in your bank to the IRS if the bank account has more than $600 cash flow per year. Pelosi suggested it could be raised to $10k but that's still covers  pretty much everyone.
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 4:43:03 PM EDT
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I am tired of it. If I didnt have two kids to protect, my ass would be on the news.
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Did the men around the time of the Revolution not have children?
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 4:44:26 PM EDT
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Go ahead and pass the fucking thing already. Let’s just get it over with.
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 4:46:20 PM EDT
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JB/KH & Pelosi are going to cut it down to $2 trillion
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 5:03:19 PM EDT
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A big one missed in the OP:

Report every transaction in your bank to the IRS if the bank account has more than $600 cash flow per year. Pelosi suggested it could be raised to $10k but that's still covers  pretty much everyone.
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40. Violates Americans’ financial privacy: $80 billion slush fund to hire an 87,000-IRS-agent army to carry out the Biden administration’s plan to review every account above a $600 balance or with more than $600 of transactions in a year. (page 2283).

I think that the people who made this list assume that everyone already knew about the big stuff that's been in the news. Here's a little primer for those who aren't already aware of the big-ticket items:

What's in the $3.5 trillion reconciliation bill?

- Two free years of community college

- "Free" child care and universal pre-K

- Medicare expansion (to include dental, hearing, and vision)

- Extended child tax credit ($3,600 per child under age 6, and $3,000 per child age 6 to 18)

- Cut prescription drug prices (with money from heaven, of course)

- Paid family and medical leave (12 weeks for everyone, up to $4k per month)

And much, much more. Full story at link.

It just gets better and better, right? I remember a few months ago when they were trying to call this infrastructure. Then they changed it to "human infrastructure". Remember that? I do.

Now they've dropped all pretenses and just call it the Great Reset slogan: Build Back Better. At least they're not hiding what it really is now.
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 5:05:19 PM EDT
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Yes, but they're going to adjust the time frame, too. so instead of $3.5 trillion over 10 years, it'll be something like $2 trillion over 6 years or so. And before the spending expires, they'll re-authorize funding for everything in it under new legislation. It'll all become permanent spending.

They're not actually going to spend any less money.
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 5:05:34 PM EDT
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Screw Let’s go Brandon.  Fuck Joe Biden.
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Yes, but they're going to adjust the time frame, too. so instead of $3.5 trillion over 10 years, it'll be something like $2 trillion over 6 years or so. And before the spending expires, they'll re-authorize funding for everything in it under new legislation. It'll all become permanent spending.

They're not actually going to spend any less money.
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of course, piglosi and her left wing commie pigs just shorted it from 10 years to 3 years, anything to fit every single item in  - and once it passes they won't roll anything back.  just like the 2 million illegal aliens that enter this year, they ain't never going back.
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 5:20:36 PM EDT
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This sounds like the end of the line if it passes ,    this should finish us off if we're not already done for.   Just imagine how a loon like AOC has enough clout to pass legislation that affects all of us like this.
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Yep, if it passes the US of A as we know it is toast.  
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 5:27:24 PM EDT
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Yep, if it passes the US of A as we know it is toast.  
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This sounds like the end of the line if it passes ,    this should finish us off if we're not already done for.   Just imagine how a loon like AOC has enough clout to pass legislation that affects all of us like this.


Yep, if it passes the US of A as we know it is toast.  


I hate to break this to anyone - we're already past that point. We've gone over the cliff. We're in free fall.

Get right with God - we're in for a rough time.
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 5:43:32 PM EDT
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They did. So you're saying you'll join me?
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 5:54:43 PM EDT
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Its thousands and thousand of pages of fine print written in legalese. It would take an individual years to comb through it all.

Point being I wouldn't count out some gun control language being tucked away in there.


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Jesus, that's like the entire Democrat wish list like there . About the only thing missing is something to do with gun control.

Its thousands and thousand of pages of fine print written in legalese. It would take an individual years to comb through it all.

Point being I wouldn't count out some gun control language being tucked away in there.



Not if you used a search function like Windows CTL-F to find keywords.
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 5:58:19 PM EDT
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I didn't see anything about guns. Have the leftists woken up to the fact that many on the right are single issue voters that will accept anything if the guns aren't threatened?

ETA: or is armed resistance part of the wishlist in burning this thing to the ground?
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Nobody has had a chance to read the entire thing. Have you seen it in physical form printed on paper? It's about 4' tall.
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 6:10:17 PM EDT
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Fuck it, let's pass it and burn this bitch down. I'm certainly in no rush to lose my high quality of life, but at a certain point sacrifices must be made. Might as well do it while I'm young, fit, and able to better weather the inevitable shit storm that is brewing.  Should this 'bill' pass, it will truly be the end of this nation. The really sad part is that our government is intentionally destroying this country for reasons that are not yet entirely clear. You can trust that whatever the reasons are will not be good for the average American.
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 6:10:37 PM EDT
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Nobody has had a chance to read the entire thing. Have you seen it in physical form printed on paper? It's about 4' tall.
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No of course not. I was just referring to the bullet points provided in this thread. It made me curious about the firearm topic related to the bill.
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 6:30:33 PM EDT
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GO NEVERTRUMPERS!!!!

Fucking traitors.
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 7:49:16 PM EDT
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It won't be the gutless republicans. ????
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 8:18:54 PM EDT
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Jesus, that's like the entire Democrat wish list like there . About the only thing missing is something to do with gun control.

Its thousands and thousand of pages of fine print written in legalese. It would take an individual years to comb through it all.

Point being I wouldn't count out some gun control language being tucked away in there.



Not if you used a search function like Windows CTL-F to find keywords.

Does a PDF exist online?
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 8:19:32 PM EDT
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Their consolation will be eternity in utter torment.  It will be ruinously wonderful
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 8:24:20 PM EDT
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Anyone asking themselves what the point of fedgov is?

Answer: organized crime masquerading as a nation-state. It's a wealth/labor redistribution scheme with oligarchs skimming off the top.

Participation ceased to be beneficial over a hundred years ago.
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 8:27:36 PM EDT
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Fucking traitors.
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It’s so much bigger than the straw man you guys keep wailing at and on. Take the blinders off.
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 8:31:29 PM EDT
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IF that list is real....that's very fucked up.

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Why does cancer not kill?

Why don't snakes not slither.

Dems are vile, corrupt demons.
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 8:40:01 PM EDT
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I would ask if they realize it will destroy the economy, destroy the middle class, hurt good people, etc, but I already know that answer...
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Their goal is simply destruction. It's not more complicated than that.
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 8:40:04 PM EDT
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Good Lord this is unraveling quickly.

I know the seeds have been sown in years and decades past, but this is getting exponentially worse.
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Somebody just fertilized and watered them.
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 8:42:41 PM EDT
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This is why they're in no hurry to get the economy moving swiftly and put people back to work.

They will suppress the economy as much as they need to get this passed.

Link Posted: 10/13/2021 8:48:23 PM EDT
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Their goal is simply destruction. It's not more complicated than that.
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I would ask if they realize it will destroy the economy, destroy the middle class, hurt good people, etc, but I already know that answer...

Their goal is simply destruction. It's not more complicated than that.


I disagree…..kinda.

The goal is total and complete control and power. Destroying everything is the means to gain that.
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 8:56:38 PM EDT
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I am tired of it. If I didnt have two kids to protect, my ass would be on the news.
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I am tired of it. If I didnt have two kids to protect, my ass would be on the news.


I have 6 grandkids

I'd love to leave them a freshly washed & sanitized Republic
Link Posted: 10/13/2021 9:34:57 PM EDT
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Bump
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Like voting out the current figure heads?

I mean how many times has congress been on tv stating we don’t know what’s in these bills? If they don’t, then who the fuck is writing them?

Keep voting, like it matters anymore.

(Not calling you out specifically, just saying)
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Like voting out the current figure heads?

I mean how many times has congress been on tv stating we don’t know what’s in these bills? If they don’t, then who the fuck is writing them?

Keep voting, like it matters anymore.

(Not calling you out specifically, just saying)
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They've got to pass it to see what's in it
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Like voting out the current figure heads?

I mean how many times has congress been on tv stating we don’t know what’s in these bills? If they don’t, then who the fuck is writing them?

Keep voting, like it matters anymore.

(Not calling you out specifically, just saying)
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Someone should do something to stop this


Like voting out the current figure heads?

I mean how many times has congress been on tv stating we don’t know what’s in these bills? If they don’t, then who the fuck is writing them?

Keep voting, like it matters anymore.

(Not calling you out specifically, just saying)




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So, what's actually in the Democrats' $3.5 trillion Build Back Better / Great Reset bill? Rep. Jim Banks, head of the Republican Study Committee has released a roundup of 42 of the major policy elements and the likely impacts of the bill. It's a quick read, only 3.5 pages, but oh boy...

You're gonna love this, America:

1. Perpetuates labor shortage: Continues welfare benefits without work requirements for able-bodied adults without dependents at a time where there are 10.1 million job openings—more openings than there are people looking for work.

2. Commissions a climate police: Democrats stuffed $8 billion into the bill to commission a cabal of federally funded climate police called the Civilian Climate Corps (CCC) who will conduct progressive activism on taxpayers’ dime (pages 8, 21, and 926).

3. Pushes Green New Deal in our public schools: Requires funding for school construction be used largely on enrollment diversity and Green New Deal agenda items (page 55).

4. Pushes Green New Deal in our universities: Democrats include a $10 billion “environmental justice” higher education slush fund to indoctrinate college students and advance Green New Deal policies (page 1,935).

5. Forces faith-based child care providers out: The bill blocks the ability of many faith-based providers from participating in the childcare system and will lead to many of their closures (page 280).

6. Hurts small and in-home daycares: Requires pre-K staff to have a college degree. (page 303)

7. Includes new incentives for illegal immigration: Illegal immigrants will be eligible to take advantage of Democrats’ new ‘free’ college entitlement (page 92) as well be eligible for additional student aid (page 147) and the enhanced child tax credit (page 1,946).

8. Includes legislative hull for Biden’s vaccine mandate: Increases OSHA penalties on businesses that fail to implement the mandate up to $700,000 per violation and includes $2.6 billion in funding for the Department of Labor to increase enforcement of these penalties (page 168).

9. Gives unions near-total control: The bill includes insane prohibitions that would bind employers’ hands in union disputes and dangerously tilt the balance of power, subjecting employers to penalties that exempt union bosses and officials… among other things this bill would prevent employers from permanently replacing striking workers (page 175). It coerces businesses to meet union boss demands by increasing Fair Labor Standards Act penalties by an astronomical 900% (page 168).

10. Makes unions bigger and more powerful: The bill would subsidize union dues that would only serve to strengthen the influence of union bosses and not American workers (page 2323).

11. Pushes Democrats’ wasteful and confusing school lunch agenda: $643 million for, among other things, “procuring…culturally appropriate foods” (page 333).

12. Furthers radical abortion agenda: Does not include the Hyde amendment and would mandate taxpayers pay for abortions (page 198) & (page 336).

13. Drives up costs on Americans’ utility bills: Issues a punitive methane tax (page 367) and includes a tax on natural gas up to $1,500 per ton that could cost the American economy up to $9.1 billion and cost 90,000 Americans their jobs (page 368).

14. Includes dangerous & deadly green energy mandate: Effectively forces Americans to get 40% of their energy from wind, solar and other unreliable forms of energy within 8 years (page 392). Reliance on these energy sources has proven deadly.

15. Includes kickbacks for the Left’s green energy special interest network: $5 billion for “environmental and climate justice block grants” (page 377) and another $100 billion in green energy special interest subsidies, loans and other carve outs.

16. Gives wealthy Americans tax credits: $222 billion in “green energy” tax credits will be given to those who can afford expensive electric vehicles and other “green” innovative products (page 1832).

17. Furthers Democrats’ social justice agenda: Includes “equity” initiatives throughout the bill and, in one instance, Democrats inserted “equity” language into a title which should have been focusing on the maintenance of the United States’ cyber security efforts (page 897).

18. Grants amnesty for millions of illegal immigrants: House Democrats have included in their reconciliation bill a plan to grant amnesty to around 8 million illegal immigrants at a cost of around $100 billion over ten years that would largely be spent on welfare and other entitlements (page 901). Trillions more would be spent long term on their Social Security and Medicare.

19. Opens border even wider: The bill would waive many grounds for immigration inadmissibility, including infection or lack of vaccination status during a Pandemic, failure to attend removal proceedings in previous immigration cases, and the previous renouncement of American citizenship. DHS may also waive  previous convictions for human trafficking, narcotics violations, and illegal voting (page 903).

20. Increases visa limit: At least 226,000 family-preference visas would be administered each year (page 905).

This is only the first 20 items, just a sample of what's in it. There are another 22 policy items pointed out by the RSC, each of them equally nauseating. Full list at the link above.

I'd say write your congressman/senator, but they've all already made up their minds by now.
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Nothing good for America

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Here's the rest for those who don't like clicking links:

21. Grants fast-tracked green cards for those seeking middle-class careers in America: Language included in the bill exempts certain aliens from the annual green card statutory limits and has been described as a “hidden pipeline for U.S. employers to flood more cheap foreign graduates into millions of middle-class careers needed by American graduates” (page 910).

22.Includes pork for Nancy Pelosi: $200 million is earmarked for the Presidio Trust in Speaker Pelosi’s congressional district (page 933).

23. Increases energy dependence on OPEC, Russia and China: The bill prohibits several mineral and energy withdrawals (page 979). It overturns provisions included in the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act that authorized energy production in the Arctic that will result in 130,000 Americans losing their jobs and $440 billion in lost federal revenue (page 983) and the mineral withdrawals it prohibits would, ironically, include minerals necessary for renewable energy sources (pages 934, 940, 943).

24. Exacerbates the chip shortage: The bill would mandate the conversion of the entire federal vehicle fleet from internal combustion engines to electric engines at a time when there is a global microchip shortage and crippled supply chains (page 1,043).

25. Democrats’ feckless China bill is included: Concepts from the insanely weak Endless Frontier Act included, including $11 billion in research funding that will likely result in American intellectual property going to China (page 1079 - 1081).

26. Chases green energy pipe dreams: $264 million to the EPA to conduct research with left-wing environmental justice groups on how to transition away from fossil fuels (page 1063).

27. Fixes “racist” roads and bridges: Adds a nearly $4 billion slush fund that would help left-wing grassroots organizations that, among other things, want to tear down and rebuild or otherwise alter infrastructure deemed “racist” (page 1183).

28. Punishes red states for failing to adopt Green New Deal provisions: Mandates “consequences” for conservative states that don’t meet the radical Left’s “green” climate standards while at the same time adding nearly $4 billion for “Community Climate Incentive Grants” for cooperating states (page 1179).

29. Includes new massive, bankrupting entitlement: The new paid leave entitlement would mandate workers get 12 weeks of paid leave and would cost $500 billion over ten years according to the CBO (page 1245). It would apply to those making up to half a million dollars a year (page 1254).

30. Advances a totalitarian and paternalistic view of the federal government: Includes grants for organizations to treat individuals suffering from “loneliness” and “social isolation.”

31. Further detaches individuals from employment and more reliant on government handouts: The bill spends $835 billion on welfare through manipulating the tax code [not including the expansions of Obamacare subsidies] (page 1943).

32. Tax benefits for the top 1%: The bill will possibly lift the SALT deduction cap meaning many of the top 1% wealthiest Americans would pay less in taxes.

33. Tax credit for wealthy donors who give to woke universities: The bill creates a new tax credit program that gives tax credits worth 40% of cash contribution that are made to university research programs (page 2094).

34. Expands worst parts of Obamacare: Obamacare’s job-killing employer mandate will become more severe by adjusting the definition of “affordable coverage” to mean coverage that costs no more than 8.5 percent of income rather than current law’s 9.5 percent of income (page 2041).

35. Increases taxes on Americans at every income level: $2 trillion in tax hikes will fall on those making under $400,000 per year, contrary to what the White House says. Individuals at all income levels will be affected (Ways and Means GOP).

36. Lowers wages for working families: The corporate tax rate will increase by 5.5%, meaning American companies will face one of the highest tax burdens in the world. According to analysis, twothirds of this tax hike will fall on lower- and middle-income taxpayers (page 2110).

37. Penalizes marriage: The bill would permanently double the EITC’s marriage penalty on childless worker benefits (page 2036).

38. Imposes crushing taxes on small business: Guts the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act small business deductions that reduced pass-through entity taxes to keep them comparable to taxes imposed on corporations (page 2235) as well as hammer small businesses that file as individual tax earners with the 39.6% rate (page 2221) and Obamacare’s 3.8% tax on net investment income.

39. Crushes family businesses and farms: The bill would impose a 25% capital gains rate (page 2226) and makes alterations to the Death Tax including cutting the Death Tax exemption in half (page 2240).

40. Violates Americans’ financial privacy: $80 billion slush fund to hire an 87,000-IRS-agent army to carry out the Biden administration’s plan to review every account above a $600 balance or with more than $600 of transactions in a year. (page 2283).

41. Increases out of pocket costs for those who rely on prescription drugs: The bill repeals the Trump-era Rebate Rule which passes through rebates directly to consumers at the point of sale (page 2465).

42. Imports policies from countries with socialized medicine: The bill includes healthcare policies imported from systems in Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Japan and the United Kingdom—all countries that have government-run healthcare systems (page 2349).
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Culturally appropriate food is code for Muslim's Halal food, the Democrats don't want them to assimilate even a little bit it seems. Packing lunch is what Catholics did for more than a hundred years and the state never paid for it either.

The rest of that bill is equally bullshit and bad for the country.
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Good Lord this is unraveling quickly.

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It’s the opportunity to try and jam though all their pipe dream wishlist ideas without having to take the political heat... they just let POTATUS read the teleprompter and sign his name while he doesn’t even know what’s going on.

FJB is a throwaway by the left and they’ll continue to push this stuff until all his political capital is used up then will discard him.
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Yep, if it passes the US of A as we know it is toast.  
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The left is 100% serious when they say that they want to fundamentally transform this country into their version of utopia, and they are going for it. They know the '22 midterms will be a bloodbath so they are pushing as hard as they can to ram their pet projects and issues in now.

The US is already toast. We're 30 trillion in debt with 84 trillion in unfunded liabilities, two political parties that can't agree on anything because one side has radicalized sharply to the left, a supreme court that won't rule on things of real consequence because it would be "too controversial", and a president that is a dementia flavored potato and doesn't know where he is at half the time. The global elite are getting giddy about finally being able to topple the US and get the global reset started.

People are busy rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic when the only thing we're waiting on now is finding out when our bodies actually enter the water of the North Atlantic.
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Will there be punch and pie when the retaliation errrr party kicks off?

Guess it doesn't matter

Put this right out there for the glow bois

I will be attending
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HR 1 is also in there, giving the Federal Government control over elections.
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