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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:52:44 PM EDT
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Delta had real AR-15s in the Black Hawk Down incident and for awhile after that........... so yeah.
and the M-16 is the military designation for the AR15. Its still the same fucking gun, lol. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:53:44 PM EDT
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Even if it were, so what? Individual arms, including state-of-the-art weapons of war, is what the right to keep and bear arms is about.
If we make it to when handheld energy weapons are useful, affordable, and effective (which I doubt), then THOSE were meant to be covered by the Second Amendment and you and I should have access to them. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:53:55 PM EDT
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Planes trucks cars metal people boats food medicine
All for war. Ban it all |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:54:15 PM EDT
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My wife says my M4 looks like a "cute" nerf gun.
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:55:18 PM EDT
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I should be able to have whatever the military and police has. Because the 2nd Amendment isn't for hunting or self defense. It's for keeping the government in check and not taking too much power over the people. And hey it's also a very good deterrent for other countries to not invade America. Good luck taking over a country where everyone is armed. People keep thinking it's only for hunting or some BS. No idiots, it's in there because they just broke away from a tyrannical government and they didn't want their new government to one day become tyrannical. They knew it would happen without the first and second amendments. Freedom of speech and freedom to bear arms are by far the most important to keep a government in check.
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:55:51 PM EDT
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What war was an AR-15 used in???? Do these fucking morons not understand that an AR-15 is a FUCKING semi-automatic SPORTING rifle. Its not a machine gun. Its not a select fire weapon. So fucking frustrating.
Caught a glimpse of the news while picking up food and the media keeps repeating "WHY DOES ANYONE NEED A WEAPON OF WAR???" Even more frustrating was the Republican she was saying that too didn't counter with the fact that an AR-15 is NOT a weapon of war. and instead just lets them perpetuate that lie. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:55:52 PM EDT
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Ask them what military outfits use it? Or countries whose military uses it?
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:57:01 PM EDT
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How about we start calling it a weapon of liberation since Grenada, Panama, Kuwait, Iraq and the Warsaw Pact deciding we were too tough to get it on with us?
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:00:37 PM EDT
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It's not....yet. 
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:06:09 PM EDT
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Don't take the sporting approach. The AR15 is designed to kill people. Specifically tyrants and criminals, which is what the second amendment is for. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:07:58 PM EDT
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It's not....yet. 
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:08:30 PM EDT
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What war was an AR-15 used in???? Do these fucking morons not understand that an AR-15 is a FUCKING semi-automatic SPORTING rifle. Its not a machine gun. Its not a select fire weapon. So fucking frustrating.
Caught a glimpse of the news while picking up food and the media keeps repeating "WHY DOES ANYONE NEED A WEAPON OF WAR???" Even more frustrating was the Republican she was saying that too didn't counter with the fact that an AR-15 is NOT a weapon of war. and instead just lets them perpetuate that lie. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:08:51 PM EDT
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No different than the media calling every quad copter a "drone". It's just a catch phrase...
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:12:52 PM EDT
[#14]
The 2nd Amendment was written specifically to protect weapons of war, so I guess we are in agreement that AR-15’s are protected then.
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:17:39 PM EDT
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It's not....yet. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:23:55 PM EDT
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Here is the reply -- An AR-15 is no more a weapon of war than a rhinestone is a diamond. This is particularly effective with women, because they know the difference in their genes. The comparison holds up -- superficially they look the same. Without special training, you may not be able to tell the difference. Experts, and even those with more than a casual interest can tell the difference. There is an important difference in structure and function (diffraction of light). There is a spectacular difference in price, and on and on.
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:24:10 PM EDT
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What war was an AR-15 used in???? Do these fucking morons not understand that an AR-15 is a FUCKING semi-automatic SPORTING rifle. Its not a machine gun. Its not a select fire weapon. So fucking frustrating.
Caught a glimpse of the news while picking up food and the media keeps repeating "WHY DOES ANYONE NEED A WEAPON OF WAR???" Even more frustrating was the Republican she was saying that too didn't counter with the fact that an AR-15 is NOT a weapon of war. and instead just lets them perpetuate that lie. Well, to be the devil's advocate, it would be what I would use as a weapon of war in case of a foreign army invading the US, or self-defense purposes where the law enforcement departments have been overwhelmed, i.e. an LA riot situation, which would be a war-like scenario. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:27:50 PM EDT
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dense gun owners vs dense anti-gunners an ar-15 is for all intents and purposes an M4. it's dimensionally and functionally the same EXCEPT being burst/full auto. do you really think anyone gives a flying fuck about the token gun proponent's argument that this ONE feature is the difference? dont be obtuse and lets be real no one uses full auto or burst in war anyway, we might as well issue AR's to the army to save money |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:28:51 PM EDT
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lol. What makes you think the Army pays more for a select fire M-4? They're actually cheaper to the .gov than the AR you buy at the LGS. Far cheaper. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:29:59 PM EDT
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What war was an AR-15 used in???? Do these fucking morons not understand that an AR-15 is a FUCKING semi-automatic SPORTING rifle. Its not a machine gun. Its not a select fire weapon. So fucking frustrating.
Caught a glimpse of the news while picking up food and the media keeps repeating "WHY DOES ANYONE NEED A WEAPON OF WAR???" Even more frustrating was the Republican she was saying that too didn't counter with the fact that an AR-15 is NOT a weapon of war. and instead just lets them perpetuate that lie. 
What about the ones they used in Vietnam? |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:31:05 PM EDT
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An interesting observation to be made here.
While many would say that an AR-15 is not a weapon of war, and others would, we all agree on why we must retain them. The never ending fight for the 2A implies the potential use of all arms, to include the AR-15, as "being necessary to the security of a free State." If the wet dream of many comes - "the next civil war" - will your AR-15 then be a weapon of war? A.W.D. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:33:19 PM EDT
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Unless we accept the language and the purpose clause of the 2nd Amendment prohibition which means we SHOULD keep and bear ARMS, and the AR15 instead of the proper M16 is already an infringement of our inalienable right as free men.
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:34:10 PM EDT
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Here is the reply -- An AR-15 is no more a weapon of war than a rhinestone is a diamond. This is particularly effective with women, because they know the difference in their genes. The comparison holds up -- superficially they look the same. Without special training, you may not be able to tell the difference. Experts, and even those with more than a casual interest can tell the difference. There is an important difference in structure and function (diffraction of light). There is a spectacular difference in price, and on and on.
That's nonsensical! |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:34:15 PM EDT
[#24]
every gun was at some point is a weapon of war!!!!!! flintlock is a weapon of war to a m9....
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:34:41 PM EDT
[#25]
If you let the left propagate this 'weapons of war' bullshit, you'll be lucky to have a slingshot left.
Carlos Hathcock used a Winchester model 70. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:57:55 PM EDT
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I'm sick of weapon of war used negatively. Yes it is a weapon if war. A VERY GOOD weapon of war. That is why I like it. It is also good for sporting which I also like. "yeah, its a badass weapon on war, which Is why I own it and is why it would be incredible stupid to try and take it away from me" |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 5:04:00 PM EDT
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The human brain is the most lethal weapon of war |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 5:09:21 PM EDT
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If these gun-grabbing, nut-licking useful idiot fucking libtards don't back off on their shit, our ARs may end up BEING weapons used in a real war.
Revolutionary or civil, not quite sure which to call it. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 5:10:25 PM EDT
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If these gun-grabbing, nut-licking useful idiot fucking libtards don't back off on their shit, our ARs may end up BEING weapons used in a real war. Revolutionary or civil, not quite sure which to call it. no aint no one gonna do jack besides let their rights get taken away bit by bit |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 5:13:23 PM EDT
[#30]
Heard it four times today.
People have CNN on the fucking brain. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 5:15:03 PM EDT
[#31]
Fuck it. Quit pussyfooting around it. The fact that it is useful for sporting/hunting purposes doesn't matter. RKBA is for martial purposes primarily.
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Posted: 2/21/2018 5:15:11 PM EDT
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Mine is a weapon(s) if war!
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Posted: 2/21/2018 5:17:28 PM EDT
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Delta had real AR-15s in the Black Hawk Down incident and for awhile after that........... so yeah. and the M-16 is the military designation for the AR15. Its still the same fucking gun, lol. Not all AR15s are M16s or M4s but all M16s and M4s are AR15s. Accept it for what it is and move on, they are a "weapon of war" but that's rather the point. Just so happens that weapons of war have fantastic civilian/marksmanship uses to them. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 5:23:29 PM EDT
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What war was an AR-15 used in???? Do these fucking morons not understand that an AR-15 is a FUCKING semi-automatic SPORTING rifle. Its not a machine gun. Its not a select fire weapon. So fucking frustrating.
Caught a glimpse of the news while picking up food and the media keeps repeating "WHY DOES ANYONE NEED A WEAPON OF WAR???" Even more frustrating was the Republican she was saying that too didn't counter with the fact that an AR-15 is NOT a weapon of war. and instead just lets them perpetuate that lie. But that doesn't matter, I still laugh at the gun banners crying for more gun control. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 5:33:51 PM EDT
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Delta had real AR-15s in the Black Hawk Down incident and for awhile after that........... so yeah. and the M-16 is the military designation for the AR15. Its still the same fucking gun, lol. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 5:34:34 PM EDT
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Don't take the sporting approach. The AR15 is designed to kill people. Specifically tyrants and criminals, which is what the second amendment is for. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 5:35:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Haven't we used AR platforms in every engagement in the last 10 years? Are we not issuing M4's and M16's? They're more similar than not to AR's. But that doesn't matter, I still laugh at the gun banners crying for more gun control. But AR's are not machine guns, yet the media and libtards keep referring them to machine guns and thinking they are full auto. FYI - I think machine guns should be legal. Fuck the Hughes Amendment. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 5:36:21 PM EDT
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I will gladly trade all my AR15's for M16's  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am forced to hear MSNBC in the morning by my, uh, female roommate. Joe Scarborough keeps saying that the military decided that an AR15 is more dangerous, lethal, etc. than an M16. WTF is that talking point based on? 
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Posted: 2/21/2018 5:36:53 PM EDT
[#39]
Libs are retarded. They can't be bargained with, we'll be fighting for our rights again and we can't give an inch.
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Posted: 2/21/2018 5:42:11 PM EDT
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What about the ones they used in Vietnam? |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 5:42:58 PM EDT
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What war was an AR-15 used in???? Do these fucking morons not understand that an AR-15 is a FUCKING semi-automatic SPORTING rifle. Its not a machine gun. Its not a select fire weapon. So fucking frustrating. The popularity of the "Sporter" models, and the type-classification of the military rifle as M16 are what led to the popular misconception that AR-15 means semiauto M16 clone. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 5:47:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As are all guns. But it is not a military-grade weapon of war. A Colt 6920, is literally the same gun as an M4, minus the full auto FCG, and an extra 1.5" on the barrel. Other than that, same gun. It is "military grade weapon of war", and that's the exact reason I defend them so vehemently. Weapons of war belong in our possession. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 5:48:09 PM EDT
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The platform, yes. But AR's are not machine guns, yet the media and libtards keep referring them to machine guns and thinking they are full auto. FYI - I think machine guns should be legal. Fuck the Hughes Amendment. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Haven't we used AR platforms in every engagement in the last 10 years? Are we not issuing M4's and M16's? They're more similar than not to AR's. But that doesn't matter, I still laugh at the gun banners crying for more gun control. But AR's are not machine guns, yet the media and libtards keep referring them to machine guns and thinking they are full auto. FYI - I think machine guns should be legal. Fuck the Hughes Amendment. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 5:49:46 PM EDT
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What war was an AR-15 used in???? Do these fucking morons not understand that an AR-15 is a FUCKING semi-automatic SPORTING rifle. Its not a machine gun. Its not a select fire weapon. So fucking frustrating.
Caught a glimpse of the news while picking up food and the media keeps repeating "WHY DOES ANYONE NEED A WEAPON OF WAR???" Even more frustrating was the Republican she was saying that too didn't counter with the fact that an AR-15 is NOT a weapon of war. and instead just lets them perpetuate that lie. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 5:50:16 PM EDT
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Delta had real AR-15s in the Black Hawk Down incident and for awhile after that........... so yeah. and the M-16 is the military designation for the AR15. Its still the same fucking gun, lol. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 5:51:37 PM EDT
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But it IS a weapon of war. I make no apologies about it. I dont try to dance around the issue, or steer it elsewhere. We need "weapons of war" to secure peace from those who wish to make war. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What war was an AR-15 used in???? Do these fucking morons not understand that an AR-15 is a FUCKING semi-automatic SPORTING rifle. Its not a machine gun. Its not a select fire weapon. So fucking frustrating.
Caught a glimpse of the news while picking up food and the media keeps repeating "WHY DOES ANYONE NEED A WEAPON OF WAR???" Even more frustrating was the Republican she was saying that too didn't counter with the fact that an AR-15 is NOT a weapon of war. and instead just lets them perpetuate that lie. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 5:55:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who the hell cares? So what if it IS a weapon of war? That just reinforces the thought that ordinary citizens should have them to protect from an oppressive government. You know, the 2nd Amendment? |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 5:55:57 PM EDT
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What war was an AR-15 used in???? Do these fucking morons not understand that an AR-15 is a FUCKING semi-automatic SPORTING rifle. Its not a machine gun. Its not a select fire weapon. So fucking frustrating.
Caught a glimpse of the news while picking up food and the media keeps repeating "WHY DOES ANYONE NEED A WEAPON OF WAR???" Even more frustrating was the Republican she was saying that too didn't counter with the fact that an AR-15 is NOT a weapon of war. and instead just lets them perpetuate that lie. Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 6:08:30 PM EDT
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What war was an AR-15 used in???? Do these fucking morons not understand that an AR-15 is a FUCKING semi-automatic SPORTING rifle. Its not a machine gun. Its not a select fire weapon. So fucking frustrating.
Caught a glimpse of the news while picking up food and the media keeps repeating "WHY DOES ANYONE NEED A WEAPON OF WAR???" Even more frustrating was the Republican she was saying that too didn't counter with the fact that an AR-15 is NOT a weapon of war. and instead just lets them perpetuate that lie. One of the issues is that every time a gun-grabber hears "semi-auto" they hear it as "semi-AUTO" so they end up with a mental image of someone running around with a machine gun. And the ones who *do* know what semi-auto really means are pushing the "auto" side to confuse the sheep who blindly believe whatever's spoonfed to them. Plus I suspect many of them think the "AR" part of AR-15 means "assault rifle", not ArmaLite Rifle. And again those who do know the difference are pushing the "assault" part just to make a simple tool seem scary, like it's going to jump up and murder you in your sleep. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 6:12:38 PM EDT
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What war was an AR-15 used in???? Do these fucking morons not understand that an AR-15 is a FUCKING semi-automatic SPORTING rifle. Its not a machine gun. Its not a select fire weapon. So fucking frustrating.
Caught a glimpse of the news while picking up food and the media keeps repeating "WHY DOES ANYONE NEED A WEAPON OF WAR???" Even more frustrating was the Republican she was saying that too didn't counter with the fact that an AR-15 is NOT a weapon of war. and instead just lets them perpetuate that lie. Don't believe me? The AR-15 was first used in 1961 by the SAS. The Mk 12 is typically semi auto only. The British L1A1 was semi auto only. No one really cares about the selector switch on a rifle or what name/roll mark is on the side of the rifle. The anti gun crowd don't care and if they happened to figure out that a semi AR lacks burst or full auto they still won't care, because 98% of the utility is still there. A select fire rifle isn't an MG anyways. This is an MG: 
If you're going to get uppity about the terms at least get them right, FFS. You're not going to win any arguments by saying "hey look these ARs lack the full auto mode!". Just point out the numerous instances of illegal guns being made in underground factories, some of the recent high profile killings in places like Australia and whatnot. You'll be a lot more successful than claiming an M16 is a "machine gun" and your AR or AK is a rifle designed first and foremost for sporting (lol). Unpopular opinion but it needed to be said. Quoted:
Delta had real AR-15s in the Black Hawk Down incident and for awhile after that........... so yeah. and the M-16 is the military designation for the AR15. Its still the same fucking gun, lol. |
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