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Posted: 2/8/2023 10:23:30 PM EST
I'm seeing them being sold for crazy asking prices.
How stupid would I be to get an extended or regular cab truck, cut the box down to almost nothing, just enough room for the wheel well basically? |
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Posted: 2/8/2023 10:34:58 PM EST
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I've always wanted to turn an excursion into a 3/4 ton bronco.
 my 94, which I paid $13k for in 98, sells for more than that now in similar condition. |
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Posted: 2/8/2023 10:48:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dopple: I've always wanted to turn an excursion into a 3/4 ton bronco. my 94, which I paid $13k for in 98, sells for more than that now in similar condition. I have an excursion.... |
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Posted: 2/9/2023 8:01:40 AM EST
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Extended cab truck on a short bed single cab truck frame or a cut down frame basically what you are asking for. It'a been done many times in the off road world.
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Posted: 2/9/2023 9:35:50 AM EST
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Kind of like a bigger/better Explorer Sport Trac? Sounds pretty good.
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Posted: 2/9/2023 10:02:02 AM EST
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One of the most important aspects of an off road capable vehicle, that people (who have never used one) overlook is width of the vehicle.
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Posted: 2/9/2023 10:21:03 AM EST
[Last Edit: ALASKANFIRE]
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The original Broncos do bring a lot of money but the third gen broncos and up can still be found for decent deals. 1980+ all the way up through the 90’s
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Posted: 2/9/2023 12:08:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bgenlvtex: One of the most important aspects of an off road capable vehicle, that people (who have never used one) overlook is width of the vehicle. Vehicle or axles? I plan on super duty axles under whatever I build. |
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Posted: 2/9/2023 12:18:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rat_Patrol: Vehicle or axles? I plan on super duty axles under whatever I build. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rat_Patrol: Originally Posted By bgenlvtex: One of the most important aspects of an off road capable vehicle, that people (who have never used one) overlook is width of the vehicle. Vehicle or axles? I plan on super duty axles under whatever I build. Both can come into play depending on what you’re doing. If you’re stuck on Superduty axles why not just start with a Superduty? |
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Posted: 2/9/2023 12:25:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Both can come into play depending on what you're doing. If you're stuck on Superduty axles why not just start with a Superduty? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Originally Posted By Rat_Patrol: Originally Posted By bgenlvtex: One of the most important aspects of an off road capable vehicle, that people (who have never used one) overlook is width of the vehicle. Vehicle or axles? I plan on super duty axles under whatever I build. Both can come into play depending on what you're doing. If you're stuck on Superduty axles why not just start with a Superduty? Weight, and I wanted an older, simpler engine. I mean I guess I could, but then I get back to just using my excursion. |
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Posted: 2/9/2023 12:31:59 PM EST
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I spent the summer of 1987 following the Grateful Dead around in an old Bronco II.
Good times. |
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Posted: 2/9/2023 12:54:39 PM EST
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How simple of an engine we talking? The original Broncos are a lot smaller than most people think. Not quite Jeep size but close.
From your past threads I think you were looking for a family wheeler. Why not a 4 door jeep? Seems like it would fit the bill pretty well. I like the full size broncos too but I don’t know what you mean by simple engine. Mid to late 80’s they switched to fuel injection and had the 302’s and 351’s right up until they quote making them. I assume they did the 300 six as well but I don’t seem to see a lot of them unlike F-150’s |
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Posted: 2/9/2023 2:14:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: How simple of an engine we talking? The original Broncos are a lot smaller than most people think. Not quite Jeep size but close. From your past threads I think you were looking for a family wheeler. Why not a 4 door jeep? Seems like it would fit the bill pretty well. I like the full size broncos too but I don't know what you mean by simple engine. Mid to late 80's they switched to fuel injection and had the 302's and 351's right up until they quote making them. I assume they did the 300 six as well but I don't seem to see a lot of them unlike F-150's I'm not sure if this will be a family rig or not. I need to spend more time on the OHV trails up here to see how big of a unit I can fit on them. I would LOVE to turn the Ex into an overlander type rig, but the ability to go out west and roam probably won't come for many years, if ever, with my disabled 8yo son, so I may have to pull back ideas/dreams. |
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Posted: 2/9/2023 3:12:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rat_Patrol: Vehicle or axles? I plan on super duty axles under whatever I build. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rat_Patrol: Originally Posted By bgenlvtex: One of the most important aspects of an off road capable vehicle, that people (who have never used one) overlook is width of the vehicle. Vehicle or axles? I plan on super duty axles under whatever I build. Both, but at the end of the day width is a significant limiting factor. Add a steep incline, copious obstacles and a wide vehicle and it becomes more apparent Length can be somewhat mitigated with lift (and in some circumstances is beneficial) but width is mostly what it is no matter what. |
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Posted: 2/9/2023 3:18:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bgenlvtex: Both, but at the end of the day width is a significant limiting factor. Add a steep incline, copious obstacles and a wide vehicle and it becomes more apparent Length can be somewhat mitigated with lift (and in some circumstances is beneficial) but width is mostly what it is no matter what. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bgenlvtex: Originally Posted By Rat_Patrol: Originally Posted By bgenlvtex: One of the most important aspects of an off road capable vehicle, that people (who have never used one) overlook is width of the vehicle. Vehicle or axles? I plan on super duty axles under whatever I build. Both, but at the end of the day width is a significant limiting factor. Add a steep incline, copious obstacles and a wide vehicle and it becomes more apparent Length can be somewhat mitigated with lift (and in some circumstances is beneficial) but width is mostly what it is no matter what. |
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Posted: 2/9/2023 3:39:35 PM EST
[Last Edit: bgenlvtex]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rat_Patrol: Just so I'm clear, because I'm learning (and no experience with OHVs, just ATV/SxS), wider is BETTER or worse (because hang ups?)? I would assume better? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rat_Patrol: Originally Posted By bgenlvtex: Originally Posted By Rat_Patrol: Originally Posted By bgenlvtex: One of the most important aspects of an off road capable vehicle, that people (who have never used one) overlook is width of the vehicle. Vehicle or axles? I plan on super duty axles under whatever I build. Both, but at the end of the day width is a significant limiting factor. Add a steep incline, copious obstacles and a wide vehicle and it becomes more apparent Length can be somewhat mitigated with lift (and in some circumstances is beneficial) but width is mostly what it is no matter what. Worse generically. "If it won't fit, force it" is no longer applicable There are always exceptions and someone will be along with a superfluous example of "how one time" a wider truck was better. I have a Power Wagon and a Gladiator Rubicon, they have very similar off road characteristics with the exception of width. Backing up is sometimes a very,very poor option when your shit won't fit between 2 immovable objects, and "trails" created by a class of narrower vehicles (particularly where trees,root balls and erosion are involved) can create circumstances where you just cannot proceed. |
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Posted: 2/9/2023 3:43:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bgenlvtex: Worse generically. "If it won't fit, force it" is no longer applicable There are always exceptions and someone will be along with a superfluous example of "how one time" a wider truck was better. I have a Power Wagon and a Gladiator Rubicon, they have very similar off road characteristics |
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Posted: 2/11/2023 12:00:28 AM EST
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What about starting with a Ford explorer, older one that has a frame, since so much is being replaced anyway, and basically just keeping the cab?
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Posted: 2/11/2023 2:04:05 AM EST
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What about it? What are you asking?
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Posted: 2/11/2023 11:13:34 AM EST
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Is there is a reason it is stupid
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Posted: 2/11/2023 3:47:51 PM EST
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They didn't have a ton of room either and putting superduty axles under them takes quite a bit of fabrication and the factory transmission and transfer case aren't hardcore. You still end up with an old vehicle with old vehicle problems. It has certainly been done before I'm sure you can find builds out there.
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Posted: 3/5/2023 2:08:41 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rat_Patrol: I was imagining a 300 I6 with aftermarket fuel injection and my own gauge cluster. I figure you are in low range when wheeling anyway, the 300 should have plenty of power (and they have great low end grunt). I'm not sure if this will be a family rig or not. I need to spend more time on the OHV trails up here to see how big of a unit I can fit on them. I would LOVE to turn the Ex into an overlander type rig, but the ability to go out west and roam probably won't come for many years, if ever, with my disabled 8yo son, so I may have to pull back ideas/dreams. How about a common rail diesel?  R2.8 Cummins Bronco - First time off road  R2.8 Cummins Bronco First Start 1 |
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Posted: 3/5/2023 11:33:59 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rock_Ranger: How about a common rail diesel?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2IDZH6yXE0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHDu5D8P15YThat 2.8 would be awesome. |
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Posted: 3/6/2023 9:17:35 AM EST
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What are you trying to do with whatever vehicle you settle on? I think that's going to help narrow down your options to the "correct" choice for your application. An excursion on 37s will do 80 on the highway all day and get to a lot of camp sites with your family and all your crap, but it's obviously not going to ever be a tube buggy.
One of my wheeling buddies has an 85 Ramcharger on 35s, and he definitely has a harder time fitting it places that I have no trouble with in my 4Runner on 33s. He also doesn't have to rub shoulders with whoever is in his passenger seat and gets compliments on it all the time even though it's a rusty, barely running beat up pile of shit. Mine is just another silver 4Runner. |
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Posted: 3/6/2023 9:51:57 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rock_Ranger: How about a common rail diesel? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2IDZH6yXE0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHDu5D8P15YI would LOVE to have that. But I LOL’d at the end when you see he was being lead around by a stock FJ80. 
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Posted: 3/6/2023 11:18:32 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thezentree: What are you trying to do with whatever vehicle you settle on? I think that's going to help narrow down your options to the "correct" choice for your application. An excursion on 37s will do 80 on the highway all day and get to a lot of camp sites with your family and all your crap, but it's obviously not going to ever be a tube buggy. One of my wheeling buddies has an 85 Ramcharger on 35s, and he definitely has a harder time fitting it places that I have no trouble with in my 4Runner on 33s. He also doesn't have to rub shoulders with whoever is in his passenger seat and gets compliments on it all the time even though it's a rusty, barely running beat up pile of shit. Mine is just another silver 4Runner. I'd love to go take it out camping, where the Ex would make sense to build up. Problems are A, my wife only camps in campers anymore. B, with a disabled son, I've learned not to make future plans like that. What I know I can do is build up something for day trips on the trails. |
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Posted: 3/24/2023 2:07:07 PM EST
[Last Edit: Buckshot4U]
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A buddy of mine bought an old rusted out Toyota truck (late 80's model I think) and bobbed the rotted out rear portion of the frame. Not that there is that much to bob off behind the rear axle. He and some other buddies welded up a flatbed for it and it made a pretty cool off road farm vehicle.
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