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Smith & Wesson X-Frame: 460 Magnum Hand Cannon Hosted by @PatRMG Edited by @Stylz Loaded up with some hand stinging magnum loads, the S&W 460 VXR doesn't disappoint! Join Pat on location at Brownells in Grinell, Iowa for some big bore handgun fun. Check out ARFCOM's Teespring Store: https://teespring.com/stores/arfcom Follow ARFCOM! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ar15com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/ar15com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ar15com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/ar15com/ Sponsored by TNVC: https://tnvc.com/ |
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Those big magnums are a hoot to shoot! Had a customer come into the range awhile back with a S&W 500 magnum. We all got to shoot a couple of rounds throughit. It really wasn't that bad as the gun is HEAVY, but that's an asset in recoil mitigation. Really didn't feel that much different than a 44 mag in something like a Redhawk. Awesome fireball and muzzle blast will always bring a great big s&*^ eating grin to your face though
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Love these big boomers! Had a Magnum Research BFR in 460 S&W Magnum, but had to sell it to fund another gun. Currently still have my 4" 500 S&W and will not sell that.
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Quoted: Love these big boomers! Had a Magnum Research BFR in 460 S&W Magnum, but had to sell it to fund another gun. Currently still have my 4" 500 S&W and will not sell that. View Quote I too have the 4" 500 S&W and it's a lot of fun to shoot! We had a .460 come into the Shop: Lost the front sight, ordered one from S&W and it was ~$65. wtf! The owner had never shot .460 out of it only .454 Casull so we ordered some in and I'll "test fire" it for safety sake. |
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Quoted: I too have the 4" 500 S&W and it's a lot of fun to shoot! We had a .460 come into the Shop: Lost the front sight, ordered one from S&W and it was ~$65. wtf! The owner had never shot .460 out of it only .454 Casull so we ordered some in and I'll "test fire" it for safety sake. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Love these big boomers! Had a Magnum Research BFR in 460 S&W Magnum, but had to sell it to fund another gun. Currently still have my 4" 500 S&W and will not sell that. I too have the 4" 500 S&W and it's a lot of fun to shoot! We had a .460 come into the Shop: Lost the front sight, ordered one from S&W and it was ~$65. wtf! The owner had never shot .460 out of it only .454 Casull so we ordered some in and I'll "test fire" it for safety sake. LOL, "test fire", for safety. I don't know why I'm surprised that this is a thing. |
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Quoted: Big fan of the 460V https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/201214/CD0C11D5-60CC-4A32-BFA4-77E5E603CE6D_jpe-1646761.JPG View Quote Nice fireball! |
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Quoted: OK, Boomer. But seriously, get this guy some sunscreen, a boonie hat, and a pop up outdoor canopy. He looked like a lobster, lol. https://i.imgur.com/UuHB7yZ.jpg View Quote Tennessee boy suddenly realized that there are no shade trees in Iowa. They said that we chose to show up during the hottest week. |
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Quoted: Tennessee boy suddenly realized that there are no shade trees in Iowa. They said that we chose to show up during the hottest week. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: OK, Boomer. But seriously, get this guy some sunscreen, a boonie hat, and a pop up outdoor canopy. He looked like a lobster, lol. https://i.imgur.com/UuHB7yZ.jpg Tennessee boy suddenly realized that there are no shade trees in Iowa. They said that we chose to show up during the hottest week. |
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Love my PC 460XVR 3.5". 50 yard hits with those Hornady 200gr loads are no big deal.
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I never felt the need for one of those. I have a tried and true Model 29, but if I need to light off something insane. I can always break out my big Dan .44. She dwarfs an N frame, and is a heavy old bitch. She's been set up for silhouette.
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I have had one for about 14 years. Always an attention magnet at the range.
Last year when I took it to the range a group of people were arriving for a concealed carry class just as we were leaving and my brother-in-law asked to shoot it while they were there (they all had on hearing pro since the range was active when they arrived). Seeing the look on those people's faces was priceless. I never shot factory ammo in it until last year when I found some Hornady on sale at Midway. Attached File |
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Quoted: I have had one for about 14 years. Always an attention magnet at the range. Last year when I took it to the range a group of people were arriving for a concealed carry class just as we were leaving and my brother-in-law asked to shoot it while they were there (they all had on hearing pro since the range was active when they arrived). Seeing the look on those people's faces was priceless. I never shot factory ammo in it until last year when I found some Hornady on sale at Midway. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/116588/SW460-A_jpg-1647891.JPG View Quote Just my opinion...I'd take that front sight thing off. It ruins the lines of an otherwise good looking gun. |
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anyone remember the thread where the guy blew his thumb off with a 460 using a thumb forward grip . somewhere around 2007/08
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Quoted: anyone remember the thread where the guy blew his thumb off with a 460 using a thumb forward grip . somewhere around 2007/08 View Quote Fingers Vs. Cylinder Gap ***DESTRUCTION!!!*** |
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Quoted: Quoted: anyone remember the thread where the guy blew his thumb off with a 460 using a thumb forward grip . somewhere around 2007/08 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6vMkk8VYzc |
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I had a 460 magnum and a .44 magnum. I preferred the .44 magnum. I'd like to get a new .44 automag.
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Quoted: anyone remember the thread where the guy blew his thumb off with a 460 using a thumb forward grip . somewhere around 2007/08 View Quote I remember that well. I give instructions on holding it and caution everyone shooting mine not to wrap their fingers around the front of the cylinder. In fact I give that same advice with all of my revolvers. Lots of people have shot my 460 and never had a problem. |
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The 500 gets the nod for being "biggest" but the ballistics of the 460 and the ability to shoot lighter factory ammo choices has lots going for it.
Choose what floats your boat. Lets face it, very few of us have a need for such power, possibly a serious hunter. Most who buy the 460 or 500 buy it just because they can and want something crazy to play with. Don't get me wrong , "want" is very much a good reason . |
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Quoted: I remember that well. I give instructions on holding it and caution everyone shooting mine not to wrap their fingers around the front of the cylinder. In fact I give that same advice with all of my revolvers. Lots of people have shot my 460 and never had a problem. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: anyone remember the thread where the guy blew his thumb off with a 460 using a thumb forward grip . somewhere around 2007/08 I remember that well. I give instructions on holding it and caution everyone shooting mine not to wrap their fingers around the front of the cylinder. In fact I give that same advice with all of my revolvers. Lots of people have shot my 460 and never had a problem. After reading of people shooting a second shot (into their face) during recoil I usually skip load mine when letting someone else shoot it. |
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How is recoil compared between .460 and .500? Using comparable ammo (middle of the range for each) or using the same weight.
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I have a 460V.
I want a 500V if they make one. And a 357 max if S&W would get off their ball bags and make one. Six shot thanks. Also the fucking stupid lock will never work on my 460V again. |
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I do love my 8" S&W 500, don't shoot it that much any more,I'm getting old. I'll keep it and pass it to my son he loves firing that hand cannon.
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Quoted: I have a 460V. I want a 500V if they make one. And a 357 max if S&W would get off their ball bags and make one. Six shot thanks. Also the fucking stupid lock will never work on my 460V again. View Quote How about a 4” 500 https://www.smith-wesson.com/firearms/model-sw500-4 |
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I wish somebody would do a .460M/.45Casul/.45Colt lever gun that wasn’t a $3k boutique gun.
It would be an extremely versatile gun. You could damn near any kind of shooting with it. I suppose it could even use .410 shells, but the rifling would fuck with the patterning of shot loads, and slugs would be pointless. |
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Quoted: I wish somebody would do a .460M/.45Casul/.45Colt lever gun that wasn’t a $3k boutique gun. It would be an extremely versatile gun. You could damn near any kind of shooting with it. I suppose it could even use .410 shells, but the rifling would fuck with the patterning of shot loads, and slugs wo8ld be pointless. View Quote Maybe Ruglin can, that would be an amazing rifle. |
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Quoted: I wish somebody would do a .460M/.45Casul/.45Colt lever gun that wasn’t a $3k boutique gun. It would be an extremely versatile gun. You could damn near any kind of shooting with it. I suppose it could even use .410 shells, but the rifling would fuck with the patterning of shot loads, and slugs wo8ld be pointless. View Quote You and me both |
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Quoted: Maybe Ruglin can, that would be an amazing rifle. View Quote I had forgotten about Ruger buying Marlin. Between the two of them they could make it happen. A 20-22" blued version, maybe octagonal barrel with a tang sight, nice wood. Maybe an 18" gun, stainless or case-hardened. Wood or synthetic. A 16" takedown in stainless or some sort of black-coated, wood or synthetic... a take-down "survival" option would be awesome. I can't think of anything better for a deep-woods "survival kit" type rifle. |
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Quoted: I had forgotten about Ruger buying Marlin. Between the two of them they could make it happen. A 20-22" blued version, maybe octagonal barrel with a tang sight, nice wood. Maybe an 18" gun, stainless or case-hardened. Wood or synthetic. A 16" takedown in stainless or some sort of black-coated, wood or synthetic... a take-down "survival" option would be awesome. I can't think of anything better for a deep-woods "survival kit" type rifle. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Maybe Ruglin can, that would be an amazing rifle. I had forgotten about Ruger buying Marlin. Between the two of them they could make it happen. A 20-22" blued version, maybe octagonal barrel with a tang sight, nice wood. Maybe an 18" gun, stainless or case-hardened. Wood or synthetic. A 16" takedown in stainless or some sort of black-coated, wood or synthetic... a take-down "survival" option would be awesome. I can't think of anything better for a deep-woods "survival kit" type rifle. It’d be a great deer rifle for the non fun states. How do we make it happen? |
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Quoted: the guy posted and was considering suing S&W until we informed him it was operator negligence View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: anyone remember the thread where the guy blew his thumb off with a 460 using a thumb forward grip . somewhere around 2007/08 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6vMkk8VYzc Wasn't there a second incident within a few weeks, and that guy DID try to sue them? |
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Quoted: How about a 4" 500 https://www.smith-wesson.com/firearms/model-sw500-4 View Quote Attached File The only 460 I have is this and it's a blast. Attached File |
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Quoted: It’d be a great deer rifle for the non fun states. How do we make it happen? View Quote I don't know. Honestly I'd pretty much given up on the idea, but now that Ruger has bought the Marlin name, it really wouldn't be a huge stretch. Ruger has the capacity to make whatever the heck they want, at pretty much whatever price point they want. Marlin has the levergun "street cred" to market something like this. .45-70 seems to be enjoying something of a renaissance... maybe that market momentum could be used to pitch more options for megalevers. |
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Quoted: I don't know. Honestly I'd pretty much given up on the idea, but now that Ruger has bought the Marlin name, it really wouldn't be a huge stretch. Ruger has the capacity to make whatever the heck they want, at pretty much whatever price point they want. Marlin has the levergun "street cred" to market something like this. .45-70 seems to be enjoying something of a renaissance... maybe that market momentum could be used to pitch more options for megalevers. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: It’d be a great deer rifle for the non fun states. How do we make it happen? I don't know. Honestly I'd pretty much given up on the idea, but now that Ruger has bought the Marlin name, it really wouldn't be a huge stretch. Ruger has the capacity to make whatever the heck they want, at pretty much whatever price point they want. Marlin has the levergun "street cred" to market something like this. .45-70 seems to be enjoying something of a renaissance... maybe that market momentum could be used to pitch more options for megalevers. How do we get our Brownells overlords to run it up the flagpole at Ruglin? |
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Quoted: Gotcha. Did the recoil break the Aimpoint? View Quote No not at all. I just shoot it at the range at very close distances and for that the Aimpoint is added weight I do not need. The Aimpoint has been on my S&W 617 for several years and continues to function fine. Attached File |
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Quoted: I have one of those. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/101408/IMG_1314_JPG-1648288.JPG The only 460 I have is this and it's a blast. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/101408/IMG_0035_jpg-1648289.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: How about a 4" 500 https://www.smith-wesson.com/firearms/model-sw500-4 https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/101408/IMG_1314_JPG-1648288.JPG The only 460 I have is this and it's a blast. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/101408/IMG_0035_jpg-1648289.JPG How do you like that Katahdin? You do know they come in .500 as well, correct? |
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Quoted: I remember that well. I give instructions on holding it and caution everyone shooting mine not to wrap their fingers around the front of the cylinder. In fact I give that same advice with all of my revolvers. Lots of people have shot my 460 and never had a problem. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: anyone remember the thread where the guy blew his thumb off with a 460 using a thumb forward grip . somewhere around 2007/08 I remember that well. I give instructions on holding it and caution everyone shooting mine not to wrap their fingers around the front of the cylinder. In fact I give that same advice with all of my revolvers. Lots of people have shot my 460 and never had a problem. My ex was about to shoot my .357 Magnum with her hand wrapped around the front of the cylinder. I stopped her just in time, it would have been nasty, not as bad as a .460 but bad enough. I had shown her the proper grip but she adjusted because she thought it was too heavy to hold that way. She was hardheaded like that, I wish that Miculek video was around then. |
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I shot the 4 inch 500 Smith a few cylinders worth, when Smith came to our range for a special range day. It wasn't low recoil, but it was not terrible. The worst thing I have done was shoot a Lone Eagle in 30/06 10 times at bowling pins. The top of my wrist was seriously hurting for days, like a sprain. 500 was about half as bad.
We had a deer hunter sighting in his 44 Magnum a few year back, he was shooting off the carpeted rests to sight his scope on, and he extended his hand along the cylinder. The cut wasn't down to the bone but it was deep and bled a lot. |
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Clearly Pat should get hooked up with one of those Big Horn Armory rifles for a long term test!
@PatRMG @Stylz Pat! What caliber do you want, .460 or .500? Perhaps a comparison to .45-70 is in order! |
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Quoted: How do you like that Katahdin? You do know they come in .500 as well, correct? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: How about a 4" 500 https://www.smith-wesson.com/firearms/model-sw500-4 https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/101408/IMG_1314_JPG-1648288.JPG The only 460 I have is this and it's a blast. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/101408/IMG_0035_jpg-1648289.JPG How do you like that Katahdin? You do know they come in .500 as well, correct? I love it. I was going to get the .500 but decided on the .460. I shoot the Hornady Lever Evolution 200gr rounds through it. At 100 yards it hits like a ton of bricks. Haven't shot further than that. We hung a 3/4" steel plate on a wooden range target and it nearly knock the whole thing down. Haven't shot it in a few years though almost forgot about it in the back of the safe. |
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