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Posted: 9/13/2022 7:51:38 PM EDT
And it was a train wreck. The only witness I saw today was an FBI Agent who is also a Plaintiff in the suit. The Judge is as hostile as the Austin Judge.
It's being streamed live each day on Law&Crime Network on YouTube. Watch Live: Alex Jones Defamation Trial: Sandy Hook 'Hoax' Lawsuit - Connecticut Trial Day One |
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Alex Jonex lawyer is kicking ass, wont make a difference though. If your name is Alex Jones or Donald Trump you'll never get Justice in America.
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Quoted: Alex Jonex lawyer is kicking ass, wont make a difference though. If your name is Alex Jones or Donald Trump you'll never get Justice in America. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Alex Jonex lawyer is kicking ass, wont make a difference though. If your name is Alex Jones or Donald Trump you'll never get Justice in America. https://news.yahoo.com/alex-jones-attorney-suggests-defamation-192424521.html During his opening remarks, Norm Pattis said the plaintiffs were attempting to silence Jones for supporting the Second Amendment. Jones has long claimed the massacre was a charade designed to give the government a reason to take away people's guns. |
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Alex Jones TELLS ALL: His Lawsuit, The Great Reset, & Cover-Ups | Louder with Crowder
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Jones also defaulted in this trial, the only issue is damages
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He did nothing wrong other than pushing shitty workout powder.
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Quoted: Jones also defaulted in this trial, the only issue is damages View Quote Attached File Bigger_Hammer |
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Quoted: Jones also defaulted in this trial, the only issue is damages View Quote He will pay bigly again. Then the usual 'tards here will complain about him being censored/punished for speaking the truth. I. Do not say obviously bullshit things about grieving parents 2. When sued for #1 don't default at the trial. 3. Hire a lawyer that won't give more than requested in discovery. |
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Quoted: How do you feel about Alex Jones going hard after the parents of the murdered schoolkids? You really think the "Parents" were actually "Crisis Actors" and that the Shooting never happened?? Bigger_Hammer Quoted: They didn't have to listen to his show. View Quote (A) When the Alex Jones Fan Bois that do listen & believe start calling & then showing up at your house to "Investigate" ... (B) COC restrictions - but a very high indicator you have never been a Parent ... We are rightfully angry when Democrats gleefully dance in the blood of slaughtered children to try to exploit that for Political Gain - that is DISGUSTING & LOW. What's even MORE Disgusting & Lower??? Alex Jones was doing it because it was more Profit to him from Ratings & Selling more Schlock ... Alex Jones knowingly & willing did it for the Dollars Bigger_Hammer |
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Despite what the closet FJB fan_bois say the trial is interesting. Plaintiffs attorney makes Binger look good.
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Jones in an idiot, but the fact that this suit wasn't immediately thrown out is just pathetic.
A pre-law freshman B student could pick apart the legal reasoning behind both the definition of libel and the claim for damages here. This is about a half-step up from me suing Janie Roundbottom for saying I had cooties back when we were in the first grade. |
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Quoted: Jones in an idiot, but the fact that this suit wasn't immediately thrown out is just pathetic. A pre-law freshman B student could pick apart the legal reasoning behind both the definition of libel and the claim for damages here. This is about a half-step up from me suing Janie Roundbottom for saying I had cooties back when we were in the first grade. View Quote |
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Seems that the Judges like to default Jones even though he sat for depositions and turned over a million documents to plaintiffs. Anyone watching the trial will see its a political hit job. The Defense Attorney Pattis framed his opening arguments as this is about silencing free speech
"Our suggestion is you stop #AlexJones you do a graver harm upon the public." "They hate him because he says outrageous things and the haters want him silenced." "Money is their weapon of choice." View Quote Texas suit against Alex Jones, judge found default judgment against Jones in defamation case. Case was not held to a jury trial on the merits. Austin is as bad as NYC in terms of politics, very liberal, even more. Judges in Austin are openly political, eager to punish their adversaries, angry that rest of Texas is so conservative. Suit would have been thrown out in 1A grounds, appeals court is also very liberal. No recognition of their limits. View Quote Jones produced millions of pages of evidence, video files, emails of spam folders, sat for days of discovery in interviews. After producing all that, judge said that is not enough, summary judgment, no jury trial, no bench trial, nothing. Judge said Jones was non-responsive, gave a default judgment to the plaintiffs. Death penalty sanctions, which is what this is called, considered a severe sanction, requires extraordinary conditions to do it. Example: not producing any evidence in discovery, hiding evidence, destroying evidence, etc. View Quote These are constitutional rights to a trial by jury. Can only be abridged under exceptional conditions. Instead, they are carving out one exception after another to get Alex Jones. It is the lack of respect for the law by the courts that is very clear. Jones said it was a "show trial." Judge then gave him a summary judgment!!! View Quote What to do? Unprecedented actions. Shocking to witness. Very revelatory that judges won't let a jury hear this case. Media is lying on this case, said Jones did not produce any evidence to substantiate his claims. So, go to trial, not default judgment. Judge was afraid a liberal Austin jury would not convict Jones if they heard the facts of the case. View Quote |
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Quoted: You would have to actually defend the lawsuit for those things to matter. Instead, he just rolled over in Texas and showed his fat belly full of shit and stupid people's money. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Jones in an idiot, but the fact that this suit wasn't immediately thrown out is just pathetic. A pre-law freshman B student could pick apart the legal reasoning behind both the definition of libel and the claim for damages here. This is about a half-step up from me suing Janie Roundbottom for saying I had cooties back when we were in the first grade. This. Alex Jones KNEW his Sandy Hook story was all made up Bull Shit, but by dragging out the case & finally defaulting, he & his Fan Bois can still ceaselessly bleat out false claims that "Alex Jones DID NOT LOSE"... In the Subsequent Depositions, Alex Jones has Admitted under oath & on video that his Sandy Hook Crisis Actors / Kids were not killed claims were complete crap. Alex Jones is a piece of human excrement as vile as anything you'd find on the planet. Alex Jones ran his Conspiracy Show on Crazy Stories & Bull Shit for many years, but most of the people he claimed were Aliens / Lizard People / Androids / Demons / or The Global Cabel of International Conspirators (like Klaus Schwab, the British Royal Family, and a host of other Public Figure targets). No one really cares because those people are living a life WAY above anything Alex Jones could ever imagine and his silly crazy crap had no real meaning in their lives. But Alex Jones could milk the paranoia of the half crazy with full on crazy stories of "Vast Global International Conspiracies - AND YOU ARE THE RESISTANCE!!!" to make nobodies feel "important" He stomped on his own dick with the Sandy Hook tragedy - he created a webs of lies from his bullshit - and did it right off the blood of those murdered little children - just of the Dollars it brought him. as I said, Alex Jones is nothing but a vile piece of human excrement milking a tragedy for his personal gain. Period. Full Stop. Mike Drop. If he wants to sue me for saying that - He's more than Welcome to do so. Bigger_Hammer |
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Quoted: Seems that the Judges like to default Jones even though he sat for depositions and turned over a million documents to plaintiffs. Anyone watching the trial will see its a political hit job. The Defense Attorney Pattis framed his opening arguments as this is about silencing free speech https://twitter.com/cathyrusson/status/1569721378047430661 View Quote Not much of an Attorney at all if he doesn't know WHY the case was held in Austin (hint it's not a Vast Secret Global International Conspiracy to Silence Alex Jones) It's because Alex Jones LIVES & his INFOWARS businesses is in Austin - thus the suit it is where the defendant resides. If Alex Jones didn't want the lawsuit IN Austin Texas - he should NOT have LIVED there for years & years & years... Sweet Jebus - Any Lawyer that doesn't know that is either dishonest or dumb (or BOTH!) Bigger_Hammer |
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Quoted: Alex Jones TELLS ALL: His Lawsuit, The Great Reset, & Cover-Ups | Louder with Crowder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVdWRBz5n30 View Quote Of course, the gay frogs thing.. that's just funny but I don't have context. He had reversed his position on Sandy Hook and apologized for it at least 4 years ago if I recall the info from this afternoon correctly, and has several times since, (full story at 14:00 on the video) but the same way the media kept "forgetting" how many times Trump had disavowed any kind of white supremacy, they did the same with him. |
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Quoted: Listened to the podcast this afternoon. I never listened to or watch Alex Jones, but he didn't sound like the nutcase they all make him out to be. Of course, the gay frogs thing.. that's just funny but I don't have context. He had reversed his position on Sandy Hook and apologized for it 4 years ago, and several times since, but just how the media kept "forgetting" how many times Trump had disavowed any kind of white supremacy, they did the same with him. View Quote |
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Quoted: Not much of an Attorney at all if he doesn't know WHY the case was held in Austin (hint it's not a Vast Secret Global International Conspiracy to Silence Alex Jones) It's because Alex Jones LIVES & his INFOWARS businesses is in Austin - thus the suit it is where the defendant resides. If Alex Jones didn't want the lawsuit IN Austin Texas - he should NOT have LIVED there for years & years & years... Sweet Jebus - Any Lawyer that doesn't know that is either dishonest or dumb (or BOTH!) Bigger_Hammer View Quote |
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Quoted: The problem with libel in this case is that he said it and his army of whackadoodle fans ran with it and harassed these poor families. Apologizing after the fact doesn't undo that harm. View Quote Just how responsible should a talk radio personality be - who holds no political office or clout- for what other people actually do? Did he actually incite them to do that, call for them to go harass (which is horrible) those parents? If he called for hit, then yes. Or did he simply express his opinion that he thought it was staged? Seems to me the people that should be in court are the a-holes that actually did it, not someone who expressed an opinion, right or wrong. In a similar vein, if we are to expect justice to mean fair, balanced treatment in this country, we just had Tim Ryan, an elected democrat, say on Tuesday, to MSNBC's Morning Joe that the "exhausted majority" of Americans needed to "kill and confront" the extremist Republican movement. Now, if someone goes and kills a maga republican, should he be held responsible ab dragged to court? I bet Democrats would say no, even though that's more of an incitement, even if it is metaphoric (which is certainly debatable, considering conservatives have had murder threats and attempts from rhetoric just like this: Scalese and Kavanaugh to name two). |
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Quoted: It doesn't sound like he shouted it from the rooftops, but in any case, this is the deliberate murder of personal accountability again and a shift of blame for political reasons. Just how responsible should a talk radio personality be - who holds no political office or clout- for what other people actually do? Did he actually incite them to do that, call for them to go harass (which is horrible) those parents? If he called for hit, then yes. Or did he simply express his opinion that he thought it was staged? Seems to me the people that should be in court are the a-holes that actually did it, not someone who expressed an opinion, right or wrong. In a similar vein, if we are to expect justice to mean fair, balanced treatment in this country, we just had Tim Ryan, an elected democrat, say on Tuesday, to MSNBC's Morning Joe that the "exhausted majority" of Americans needed to "kill and confront" the extremist Republican movement. Now, if someone goes and kills a maga republican, should he be held responsible ab dragged to court? I bet Democrats would say no, even though that's more of an incitement, even if it is metaphoric (which is certainly debatable, considering conservatives have had murder threats and attempts from rhetoric just like this: Scalese and Kavanaugh to name two). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The problem with libel in this case is that he said it and his army of whackadoodle fans ran with it and harassed these poor families. Apologizing after the fact doesn't undo that harm. Just how responsible should a talk radio personality be - who holds no political office or clout- for what other people actually do? Did he actually incite them to do that, call for them to go harass (which is horrible) those parents? If he called for hit, then yes. Or did he simply express his opinion that he thought it was staged? Seems to me the people that should be in court are the a-holes that actually did it, not someone who expressed an opinion, right or wrong. In a similar vein, if we are to expect justice to mean fair, balanced treatment in this country, we just had Tim Ryan, an elected democrat, say on Tuesday, to MSNBC's Morning Joe that the "exhausted majority" of Americans needed to "kill and confront" the extremist Republican movement. Now, if someone goes and kills a maga republican, should he be held responsible ab dragged to court? I bet Democrats would say no, even though that's more of an incitement, even if it is metaphoric (which is certainly debatable, considering conservatives have had murder threats and attempts from rhetoric just like this: Scalese and Kavanaugh to name two). If only there was an extensive body of legal reasoning that could give us some insight to such questions. If only. |
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Quoted: YOUR Quotes said (Paraphrasing) "It was 'unfair' to have the Trial in Austin Texas because it is a liberal city and Alex Jones couldn't get a fair trial there" If Alex Jones didn't want a trial in Austin Texas then the ONLY Person to blame for Alex Jones having a Trial in Austin Texas is ... https://i.imgur.com/3jBm7R9.png ... ALEX JONES. Bigger_Hammer View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: YOUR Quotes said (Paraphrasing) "It was 'unfair' to have the Trial in Austin Texas because it is a liberal city and Alex Jones couldn't get a fair trial there" If Alex Jones didn't want a trial in Austin Texas then the ONLY Person to blame for Alex Jones having a Trial in Austin Texas is ... https://i.imgur.com/3jBm7R9.png ... ALEX JONES. Bigger_Hammer You hate Jones, ok. eta- Using your logic this Army Sergeant deserves what he's gonna get for driving an Uber in Austin https://nypost.com/2021/07/01/texas-soldier-who-shot-blm-protester-indicted-on-murder-charge/ A US Army soldier who shot and killed an armed protester after driving into a Black Lives Matter demonstration in Texas last summer has been charged with murder, authorities said Thursday The lawsuit states that the company should have known Sgt. Daniel Perry was a "dangerous, ticking time-bomb." The lawsuit also states that Perry posted online that he had previously threatened to shoot protestors. Daniel Perry, 35, was driving with Uber in downtown Austin in 2020 when he reportedly shot and killed Garrett Foster. Perry drove his car onto Congress Avenue, where protesters had been marching. Protestors began "striking the vehicle" and Garrett reportedly approached the vehicle with a rifle. It is legal in Texas to openly carry a rifle. The Austin Police Department determined that the shooting was a justifiable homicide, but a grand jury decided that probable cause existed to charge Perry with murder. Murder charges are still pending against Daniel Perry. |
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Quoted: Your paraphrasing was reaching. The Court in Austin is a biased venue with no hope of anyone getting a fair trial. Just because Jones lived there doesn't mean he deserved kangaroo Justice. You hate Jones, ok. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: YOUR Quotes said (Paraphrasing) "It was 'unfair' to have the Trial in Austin Texas because it is a liberal city and Alex Jones couldn't get a fair trial there" If Alex Jones didn't want a trial in Austin Texas then the ONLY Person to blame for Alex Jones having a Trial in Austin Texas is ... https://i.imgur.com/3jBm7R9.png ... ALEX JONES. Bigger_Hammer You hate Jones, ok. WHO Chose WHERE Alex Jones would live & work ? ? ... That Would Be ... . . . ALEX JONES!! Bigger_Hammer |
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Quoted: Who Chose WHERE Alex Jones would live & work ? ? ... That Would Be ... . . . ALEX JONES!! Bigger_Hammer View Quote |
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This isn’t about anything more than bankrupting to silence him before 2024. It won’t work.
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Quoted: Your paraphrasing was reaching. The Court in Austin is a biased venue with no hope of anyone getting a fair trial. Just because Jones lived there doesn't mean he deserved kangaroo Justice. You hate Jones, ok. eta- Using your logic this Army Sergeant deserves what he's gonna get for driving an Uber in Austin https://nypost.com/2021/07/01/texas-soldier-who-shot-blm-protester-indicted-on-murder-charge/ https://www.fox7austin.com/news/garrett-foster-family-sues-daniel-perry-uber-austin-texas View Quote You CLEARLY do NOT understand the LAW at ALL.. There is a Very SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE between a CRIMINAL Case (that goes to a District Attorney & Grand Jury to decide if the case should proceed - then to Trial - The D.A. in Austin is a Liberal Shitbird & we started a ARFCOM Fund Raiser to help Sgt. Perry in the Texas HTF. - B.T.W. - more than Trump ever did for any of the January 6th Defendants ) Vs. a CIVIL Case (like Alex Jones is facing - he can't be sent to jail unless he does something extremely stupid - but never underestimate Alex Jones ability to do Really Stupid Stuff ... ) Nice to try to confuse people who don't understand the Court System, much less the SIGNIFICANT differences between a CRIMINAL Vs. CIVIL case. Again - ALEX JONES chose to live & base his business for decades in AUSTIN Texas, so if you have a problem with the location of the Trial - Only ONE Person is to "Blame" ... ALEX JONES ! ! Bigger_Hammer |
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Quoted: You CLEARLY do NOT understand the LAW at ALL.. There is a Very SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE between a CRIMINAL Case (that goes to a District Attorney & Grand Jury to decide if the case should proceed - then to Trial - The D.A. in Austin is a Liberal Shitbird & we started a ARFCOM Fund Raiser to help Sgt. Perry in the Texas HTF. - B.T.W. - more than Trump ever did for any of the January 6th Defendants ) Vs. a CIVIL Case (like Alex Jones is facing - he can't be sent to jail unless he does something extremely stupid - but never underestimate Alex Jones ability to do Really Stupid Stuff ... ) Nice to try to confuse people who don't understand the Court System, much less the SIGNIFICANT differences between a CRIMINAL Vs. CIVIL case. Again - ALEX JONES chose to live & base his business for decades in AUSTIN Texas, so if you have a problem with the location of the Trial - Only ONE Person is to "Blame" ... ALEX JONES ! ! Bigger_Hammer View Quote Your hobby is shitting in threads again Attached File |
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Quoted: Clearly you don't read very well. The Sergeant would be walking free if he had committed the same act in any other jurisdiction in Texas. Also there is reference to a civil lawsuit being filed by the family of the deaded guy. Your hobby is shitting in threads again https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/255759/D7461F2F-1D5A-4B5C-B126-65C23CCD5263_jpe-2526693.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: You CLEARLY do NOT understand the LAW at ALL.. There is a Very SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE between a CRIMINAL Case (that goes to a District Attorney & Grand Jury to decide if the case should proceed - then to Trial - The D.A. in Austin is a Liberal Shitbird & we started a ARFCOM Fund Raiser to help Sgt. Perry in the Texas HTF. - B.T.W. - more than Trump ever did for any of the January 6th Defendants ) Vs. a CIVIL Case (like Alex Jones is facing - he can't be sent to jail unless he does something extremely stupid - but never underestimate Alex Jones ability to do Really Stupid Stuff ... ) Nice to try to confuse people who don't understand the Court System, much less the SIGNIFICANT differences between a CRIMINAL Vs. CIVIL case. Again - ALEX JONES chose to live & base his business for decades in AUSTIN Texas, so if you have a problem with the location of the Trial - Only ONE Person is to "Blame" ... ALEX JONES ! ! Bigger_Hammer Your hobby is shitting in threads again https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/255759/D7461F2F-1D5A-4B5C-B126-65C23CCD5263_jpe-2526693.JPG Look, we all can see that You love Alex Jones & want to have his Babies ... Sorry buddy - Don't think that is in the cards for you. But You CAN try to explain what a District Attorney in a Unrelated CRIMINAL Case has in anyway anything to do with a CIVIL Case regarding Alex Jones for his wildly irresponsible false reporting regarding the Sandy Hook Shooting... (Hint - It doesn't mean a thing. ) But I'll let you try to type your way out... Attached File Bigger_Hammer |
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Quoted: Robert Barnes has said Alex Jones should move and he has advised people like James O'Keefe to move out of New York another jurisdiction that has a corrupt judiciary. Evidently you didn't listen to him. Unlike some here he values freedom. View Quote I really don't understand all of these "pro freedom" celebrities moving to Austin. They might as well move to freaking Portland. |
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Quoted: The problem with libel in this case is that he said it and his army of whackadoodle fans ran with it and harassed these poor families. Apologizing after the fact doesn't undo that harm. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Listened to the podcast this afternoon. I never listened to or watch Alex Jones, but he didn't sound like the nutcase they all make him out to be. Of course, the gay frogs thing.. that's just funny but I don't have context. He had reversed his position on Sandy Hook and apologized for it 4 years ago, and several times since, but just how the media kept "forgetting" how many times Trump had disavowed any kind of white supremacy, they did the same with him. It definitely isn't multi millions of dollars of damages though. That is the biggest injustice about this mess. The ridiculous obscene out of proportion penalties. If it was a reasonable amount I wouldn't care a whole lot either way. |
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Quoted: Jones in an idiot, but the fact that this suit wasn't immediately thrown out is just pathetic. A pre-law freshman B student could pick apart the legal reasoning behind both the definition of libel and the claim for damages here. This is about a half-step up from me suing Janie Roundbottom for saying I had cooties back when we were in the first grade. View Quote Not sure about this trial, but the last one was not about libel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intentional_infliction_of_emotional_distress |
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Quoted: Look, we all can see that You love Alex Jones & want to have his Babies ... Sorry buddy - Don't think that is in the cards for you. But You CAN try to explain what a District Attorney in a Unrelated CRIMINAL Case has in anyway anything to do with a CIVIL Case regarding Alex Jones for his wildly irresponsible false reporting regarding the Sandy Hook Shooting... (Hint - It doesn't mean a thing. ) But I'll let you try to type your way out... /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/F09DE067-47F9-4C4C-934C-223722121019-480.gif Bigger_Hammer View Quote |
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Quoted: Jones also defaulted in this trial, the only issue is damages View Quote Have you seen his judge? Standard blue hair, lgbtbbq, leftist cunt. Jones claims he gave her everything she asked for, and it was never enough. She declared him in default at her will. This is what being railroaded looks like. All the judge has to do is claim you weren't cooperating and poof. There goes your jury of peers trial. |
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Quoted: How do you feel about Alex Jones going hard after the parents of the murdered schoolkids? You really think the "Parents" were actually "Crisis Actors" and that the Shooting never happened?? Bigger_Hammer View Quote He was wrong. He admitted as much. He attempted to get in contact with the parents to right things, but instead he was chosen to make an example out of. |
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Quoted: It doesn't sound like he shouted it from the rooftops, but in any case, this is the deliberate murder of personal accountability again and a shift of blame for political reasons. Just how responsible should a talk radio personality be - who holds no political office or clout- for what other people actually do? Did he actually incite them to do that, call for them to go harass (which is horrible) those parents? If he called for hit, then yes. Or did he simply express his opinion that he thought it was staged? Seems to me the people that should be in court are the a-holes that actually did it, not someone who expressed an opinion, right or wrong. In a similar vein, if we are to expect justice to mean fair, balanced treatment in this country, we just had Tim Ryan, an elected democrat, say on Tuesday, to MSNBC's Morning Joe that the "exhausted majority" of Americans needed to "kill and confront" the extremist Republican movement. Now, if someone goes and kills a maga republican, should he be held responsible ab dragged to court? I bet Democrats would say no, even though that's more of an incitement, even if it is metaphoric (which is certainly debatable, considering conservatives have had murder threats and attempts from rhetoric just like this: Scalese and Kavanaugh to name two). View Quote |
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Quoted: It definitely isn't multi millions of dollars of damages though. That is the biggest injustice about this mess. The ridiculous obscene out of proportion penalties. If it was a reasonable amount I wouldn't care a whole lot either way. View Quote |
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Quoted: Have you seen his judge? Standard blue hair, lgbtbbq, leftist cunt. Jones claims he gave her everything she asked for, and it was never enough. She declared him in default at her will. This is what being railroaded looks like. All the judge has to do is claim you weren't cooperating and poof. There goes your jury of peers trial. View Quote Except Jones didn't provide all of the requested discovery, as his lawyer's fuck up of sending a bunch of stuff to the attorney in the Texas case demonstrated. He spammed them with vast amounts of random, irrelevant, and unresponsive material. He skipped discovery deadlines many times. He refused to provide discovery material to the point of deliberate obstruction. It's well documented in the court filings, many of which are available to read on this wonderful thing called The Internet. You really should educate yourself. |
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Quoted: Have you seen his judge? Standard blue hair, lgbtbbq, leftist cunt. Jones claims he gave her everything she asked for, and it was never enough. She declared him in default at her will. This is what being railroaded looks like. All the judge has to do is claim you weren't cooperating and poof. There goes your jury of peers trial. View Quote |
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