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Posted: 1/23/2019 11:49:36 AM EDT
Hey guys, a few years ago I had my famous (infamous?) game changer thread which I called the SPARC the shot show game changer...which led to my review, which blew up...and now cheap red dots are prevalent ...I digress.
I found this...thing, while checking out videos of day one...and I'm calling it now...game changer. as you can see its a pistol chassis with brace... one big difference between this and the microroni....suppressor room. If anyone can help iD it I would be grateful 
Found at the SB tactical booth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igDt9HI5HBg Also worthy game changer mention--PSA mp5 Yeah yeah, you knew it was coming....what you didn't know was that PSA partnered with Magpul for the lower, rail...and eventually mags (alluded to in the ArfCom magpul video) PSA mp5-sweet PSA Magpul pimped out budget MP5- Gamechanger 1/24 update _______ Keltec ks7 $495 msrp https://www.keltecweapons.com/shotguns/ks7 ______ New non flimsy SB tactical brace-SBa4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftlG_B-NDKs |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 11:50:47 AM EDT
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 SB Tactical Braces Shot Show 2019 |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 11:55:20 AM EDT
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didnt watch vid...
did they say anything about triangle PSA AK arm brace? |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 12:05:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/23/2019 12:22:39 PM EDT
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No, i think this is the real "Game Changer" here. telescopic brace for Glock handguns. i think its pretty cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj69LcPyNVw |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 12:27:08 PM EDT
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I don't know if anything I am seeing is game changing this show.
But I do like that 350 legend... |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 12:28:23 PM EDT
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No, i think this is the real "Game Changer" here. telescopic brace for Glock handguns. i think its pretty cool. https://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g439/josephgzalez/download.jpg https://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g439/josephgzalez/707874-500x307.jpeg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj69LcPyNVw 
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Posted: 1/23/2019 12:29:02 PM EDT
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https://firecontrolunit.com/ Currently only available for Sig 320 variants https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/IMG_2490.jpg |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 12:31:22 PM EDT
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I don't know if anything I am seeing is game changing this show. But I do like that 350 legend... |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 12:33:10 PM EDT
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So you can't holster it, AND it doesn't have an external safety Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No, i think this is the real "Game Changer" here. telescopic brace for Glock handguns. i think its pretty cool. https://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g439/josephgzalez/download.jpg https://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g439/josephgzalez/707874-500x307.jpeg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj69LcPyNVw |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 12:33:52 PM EDT
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No, i think this is the real "Game Changer" here. telescopic brace for Glock handguns. i think its pretty cool. https://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g439/josephgzalez/download.jpg https://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g439/josephgzalez/707874-500x307.jpeg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj69LcPyNVw  Flux Brace from Flux Defense...Cool Stuff Review! I dunno how many people have a need for a PDWish pistol, but if you do, it might work for you. |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 12:34:49 PM EDT
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https://firecontrolunit.com/ Currently only available for Sig 320 variants https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/IMG_2490.jpg |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 12:35:41 PM EDT
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Braced mp5 makes my dick hard
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Posted: 1/23/2019 12:38:11 PM EDT
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So you can't holster it, AND it doesn't have an external safety Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No, i think this is the real "Game Changer" here. telescopic brace for Glock handguns. i think its pretty cool. https://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g439/josephgzalez/download.jpg https://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g439/josephgzalez/707874-500x307.jpeg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj69LcPyNVw Neat, but meh. |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 12:39:46 PM EDT
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That 320 chassis has been around since at least last shot show. I thought they had already been released. Looks good though.
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Posted: 1/23/2019 12:40:08 PM EDT
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Braced mp5 makes my dick hard |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 12:42:02 PM EDT
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No, i think this is the real "Game Changer" here. telescopic brace for Glock handguns. i think its pretty cool. https://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g439/josephgzalez/download.jpg https://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g439/josephgzalez/707874-500x307.jpeg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj69LcPyNVw |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 12:52:22 PM EDT
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They make a holster for it. 
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Posted: 1/23/2019 12:52:24 PM EDT
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While those guns are certifiably badass...
Braces will never be a game changer because anyone living without their head in the sand realizes it’s just a matter of time before braces are banned. They’ll either go the way of bumpstocks under Trump’s reign (EO) or they’ll be banned by Congress the next time D’s have enough control. Preemptively: my girl didn’t lose, I voted for Trump. |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 12:54:50 PM EDT
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 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj69LcPyNVw
I dunno how many people have a need for a PDWish pistol, but if you do, it might work for you. |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 12:58:04 PM EDT
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While those guns are certifiably badass... Braces will never be a game changer because anyone living without their head in the sand realizes it’s just a matter of time before braces are banned. They’ll either go the way of bumpstocks under Trump’s reign (EO) or they’ll be banned by Congress the next time D’s have enough control. Preemptively: my girl didn’t lose, I voted for Trump. |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 12:59:25 PM EDT
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https://firecontrolunit.com/ Currently only available for Sig 320 variants https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/IMG_2490.jpg Now, if we're talking 10mm, that might be a game changer since 10mm PDW's are rare and expensive. |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 1:00:13 PM EDT
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I’m afraid that you might be right. I hope you are wrong though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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While those guns are certifiably badass... Braces will never be a game changer because anyone living without their head in the sand realizes it’s just a matter of time before braces are banned. They’ll either go the way of bumpstocks under Trump’s reign (EO) or they’ll be banned by Congress the next time D’s have enough control. Preemptively: my girl didn’t lose, I voted for Trump. |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 1:04:13 PM EDT
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Nice, but these types of things don't really strike me as cost effective since they need you to dedicate a $500 pistol, plus the cost of the chassis to the build. If it's just 9mm there are numerous 9mm PDW's on the market that readily accept a brace, and some that come with braces, for well under $1000. Now, if we're talking 10mm, that might be a game changer since 10mm PDW's are rare and expensive. Do they make extended 10mm mags? |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 1:23:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/23/2019 1:48:42 PM EDT
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Do they make extended 10mm mags? You can modify the Kriss extensions for 10mm but that can be hit or miss... |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 1:57:48 PM EDT
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This form 1'd just to attach a vfg and piss off fuds/range nazis + 10mm+threaded/suppressed or 9mm w/glock fostech binary trigger that's supposed to release at shot 19 +can and I'm in for days.
Edit:supposed to link to auto extendo brace for glocks |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 2:07:55 PM EDT
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Not yet, but it's about dang time someone made some decent large frame extended mags. You can modify the Kriss extensions for 10mm but that can be hit or miss... https://kriss-usa.com/press-release/428-kriss-usa-announce-high-capacity-9mm-and-10mm-glock-magazine-extensions The KRISS MagEx2 consists of an inner and outer extension sleeve, made of advanced polymer composites, along with an extended spring. When combined with a factory standard Glock magazine body and follower, the MagEx2 adds 18 rounds to the capacity of a G20 magazine, for a total of 33 rounds of 10mm. MagEx2 kits and magazines will be available for order starting January 28, 2019, through the KRISS USA Web store and Certified Dealers. |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 2:08:03 PM EDT
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No, i think this is the real "Game Changer" here. telescopic brace for Glock handguns. i think its pretty cool. https://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g439/josephgzalez/download.jpg https://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g439/josephgzalez/707874-500x307.jpeg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj69LcPyNVw |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 2:09:35 PM EDT
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I don't know if anything I am seeing is game changing this show. More pistol brace variations. More Gucci Glocks and boutique ARs. More price-point polymer pistols. More variations on the same flagship gun models that have been out for years. A few new factory hunting loads that promise to be better than the last 900 iterations from the big 3. A new caliber that will get hyped up as being the next big thing, only to become a niche caliber in two years. And some really promising vaporware that won't ship for at least a year, if ever. |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 2:10:36 PM EDT
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glock fostech binary trigger Parallel sears? When the first one drops, the second one pops up, and then the second one drops when you release the trigger? |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 2:11:57 PM EDT
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Today's your lucky day: https://kriss-usa.com/press-release/428-kriss-usa-announce-high-capacity-9mm-and-10mm-glock-magazine-extensions The KRISS MagEx2 consists of an inner and outer extension sleeve, made of advanced polymer composites, along with an extended spring. When combined with a factory standard Glock magazine body and follower, the MagEx2 adds 18 rounds to the capacity of a G20 magazine, for a total of 33 rounds of 10mm. MagEx2 kits and magazines will be available for order starting January 28, 2019, through the KRISS USA Web store and Certified Dealers. 
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Posted: 1/23/2019 2:13:42 PM EDT
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Voodoo and metallurgy
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Posted: 1/23/2019 2:17:00 PM EDT
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interesting but watching the video it looks like it is a little short, seemed awkward for the guy Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No, i think this is the real "Game Changer" here. telescopic brace for Glock handguns. i think its pretty cool. https://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g439/josephgzalez/download.jpg https://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g439/josephgzalez/707874-500x307.jpeg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj69LcPyNVw |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 2:18:24 PM EDT
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No, i think this is the real "Game Changer" here. telescopic brace for Glock handguns. i think its pretty cool. https://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g439/josephgzalez/download.jpg https://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g439/josephgzalez/707874-500x307.jpeg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj69LcPyNVw 
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Posted: 1/23/2019 2:19:47 PM EDT
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...adds 18 rounds to the capacity of a G20 magazine, for a total of 33 rounds of 10mm. |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 2:20:23 PM EDT
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What interests me is the top item on this picture:
 Attached File5.56 caliber rifle using a P320 FCU. Vaporware at this point, but I'd love to see them get it done. |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 2:20:45 PM EDT
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I don't get the pistol caliber PDW craze.
Not being snarky, I just don't understand why you would choose that over something like a short barreled .300bo with a folder, a PS90, or if . Gov an MP7 or similar. If they are your thing, by all means, have at it. |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 2:21:32 PM EDT
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I am interested in the Zev small frame
.308/6.5. Supposedly ar-15 sized like the POF Revolution. |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 2:24:05 PM EDT
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Sad thang is some pistols would really benefit from an actual pistol brace. My 45/70 pistol wants to snap your wrist off every time your unpull the trigger. An actual brace for it would make it useful,
i am liking the glock brace, a 10mm micro carbine, what is not to like. |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 2:26:44 PM EDT
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I don't get the pistol caliber PDW craze. Not being snarky, I just don't understand why you would choose that over something like a short barreled .300bo with a folder, a PS90, or if . Gov an MP7 or similar. If they are your thing, by all means, have at it. Ah well, marketing divisions gonna market. AR designs pretty well saturated by this point, gotta come up with something new. At least it gives us a chance to Drive our Fire Control Unit Platform while Operating Operationally.
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Posted: 1/23/2019 2:27:03 PM EDT
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I don't get the pistol caliber PDW craze. Not being snarky, I just don't understand why you would choose that over something like a short barreled .300bo with a folder, a PS90, or if . Gov an MP7 or similar. If they are your thing, by all means, have at it. I'll take my SBR'd and suppressed scorpion over a 300blk I don't have any interest in. |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 2:28:09 PM EDT
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Looks like "the brace" is the single most sought after market niche this year
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Posted: 1/23/2019 2:30:53 PM EDT
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I don't get the pistol caliber PDW craze. Not being snarky, I just don't understand why you would choose that over something like a short barreled .300bo with a folder, a PS90, or if . Gov an MP7 or similar. If they are your thing, by all means, have at it. |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 2:34:20 PM EDT
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What interests me is the top item on this picture: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/51323/46277004_743342716022166_3480726014973120439_n-528x660_jpg-818659.JPG 5.56 caliber rifle using a P320 FCU. Vaporware at this point, but I'd love to see them get it done. 
To save a stamp maybe? |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 2:34:21 PM EDT
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I don't get the pistol caliber PDW craze. Not being snarky, I just don't understand why you would choose that over something like a short barreled .300bo with a folder, a PS90, or if . Gov an MP7 or similar. If they are your thing, by all means, have at it. |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 2:36:06 PM EDT
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The pistol brace looks interesting as a bed side/glove box gun but the price has me thinking about other better options.
So far the most interesting thing at shot this year is the new 350 Winchester cartridge. |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 2:36:28 PM EDT
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Why, because accurately shooting a pistol requires time and practice. But who want to carry a long gun every day when you most likely will never need it,
in this day and age, a rifle in the back window is not acceptable, but a PDW in th center console might still be handy for a hog or yote at 50 paces. |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 2:37:00 PM EDT
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I believe the game shall remain unchanged
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Posted: 1/23/2019 2:39:53 PM EDT
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also worthy game changer mention--PSA mp5 Yeah yeah, you knew it was coming....what you didn't know was that PSA partnered with Magpul for the lower, rail...and eventually mags (alluded to in the ArfCom magpul video) PSA mp5-sweet PSA Magpul pimped out budget MP5- Gamechanger 
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Posted: 1/23/2019 2:40:25 PM EDT
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A 640x480 micro red dot that is actually micro thermal-or fuck if dreaming micro fusion,
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