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Posted: 5/13/2024 4:23:57 PM EDT
Ah yes, stolen tax payer monies well spent!

"Ukrainian forces suffered considerable territorial losses over the weekend despite receiving a large military aid package from the U.S. in April, according to The New York Times.

From Friday to Sunday, Russian forces captured more square miles per day than they have at nearly any point of the war other than its earliest days, taking nine villages in Ukraine's north while defending fighters fell back, according to the Times. The Russians' advances came just weeks after Congress approved a $61 billion infusion of military aid for the Ukrainian forces on April 21, proponents of which argued that the aid was essential for Ukraine to withstand the invasion."

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Link Posted: 5/13/2024 4:28:02 PM EDT
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Just you wait until the Ukraine kicks off its annual massively successful summer counter-offensive!
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 4:28:04 PM EDT
[#2]
Not surprised at all.  They will tax us to no end.  They won’t stop till they run out of ink to print more money.
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 4:29:15 PM EDT
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Ah yes the russians setting a new record for daily casualties and equipment loss before the US aid gets here. Sketti thread.
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 4:29:43 PM EDT
[#4]
Are the two supposed to be related?

What of the new aid package has made it to the field since the vote?
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 4:30:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sketti:
Ah yes, stolen tax payer monies well spent!

"Ukrainian forces suffered considerable territorial losses over the weekend despite receiving a large military aid package from the U.S. in April, according to The New York Times.

From Friday to Sunday, Russian forces captured more square miles per day than they have at nearly any point of the war other than its earliest days, taking nine villages in Ukraine's north while defending fighters fell back, according to the Times. The Russians' advances came just weeks after Congress approved a $61 billion infusion of military aid for the Ukrainian forces on April 21, proponents of which argued that the aid was essential for Ukraine to withstand the invasion."

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Lol, tards thinking that aid voted for, means that money starts hitting Ukrainian bank accounts the next day and the missiles are packed and ready to ship. It's probably going to be months before dudes on the ground start seeing any difference.
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 4:31:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Nickel_Plated:


Lol, tards thinking that aid voted for, means that money starts hitting Ukrainian bank accounts the next day and the missiles are packed and ready to ship. It's probably going to be months before dudes on the ground start seeing any difference.
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Hence new russian human wave assaults with even higher casualty rates and equipment loss.
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 4:33:14 PM EDT
[#7]
Got give the US Government reasons to keep making it rain $$$...
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 4:36:02 PM EDT
[#8]
Two things you can count on.

The sun rising in the east and setting in the west, Sketti aiding Russians and any other American enemies he can.
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 4:37:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Nickel_Plated:


Lol, tards thinking that aid voted for, means that money starts hitting Ukrainian bank accounts the next day and the missiles are packed and ready to ship. It's probably going to be months before dudes on the ground start seeing any difference.
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They aren’t going to see a difference at all. Ukraine is going to lose or suck NATO into something that will get out of control.

Only way out of this is to force them to the negotiation table Ukraine loses some territory and UN “peace keepers” are sent in for a period to enforce a DMZ and neutral zone. Russia is on the hook for resettling funds for Ukrainians that don’t wish to be Russian citizens.

Everybody loses and lives to fight another day.
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 4:37:12 PM EDT
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It's not enough. Trillions need to go to Ukraine. If Afghanistan only needed 1 trillion, then Ukraine needs 10 trillion
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 4:39:55 PM EDT
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The frogs will be there soon enough!

Its interesting they will be sending their foreign legion,  politically less an issue than seeing french casualties.
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 4:40:32 PM EDT
[#12]
Originally Posted By Sketti:
Ah yes, stolen tax payer monies well spent!

"Ukrainian forces suffered considerable territorial losses over the weekend despite receiving a large military aid package from the U.S. in April, according to The New York Times.

From Friday to Sunday, Russian forces captured more square miles per day than they have at nearly any point of the war other than its earliest days, taking nine villages in Ukraine's north while defending fighters fell back, according to the Times. The Russians' advances came just weeks after Congress approved a $61 billion infusion of military aid for the Ukrainian forces on April 21, proponents of which argued that the aid was essential for Ukraine to withstand the invasion."

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Nobody saw that coming. Nobody
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 4:41:31 PM EDT
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You Putin puffers never fail to surprise. Ukraine was shell starved and basically out of ammo for months, and it’ll take months for the munitions to get to the front. Russias gains are due to the west’s lack of urgency.

It’s the same foolish surprise Biden and his lackies faced when they dithered on tanks and armored infantry fighting vehicles for months, waiting for Russia to build defense in depth and then being dumbfounded that Ukraine couldn’t penetrate it with 30 Abram tanks and a couple handfuls of Bradleys.

Russis is not our friend, they never will be.

Unlike many other mistakes, Iraqi army, afghan army, south Vietnamese army… Ukraine actually wants to fight. My guess is life under Russia has taught Ukraine what life will be like and they do not want it.
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 4:43:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Nickel_Plated:


Lol, tards thinking that aid voted for, means that money starts hitting Ukrainian bank accounts the next day and the missiles are packed and ready to ship. It's probably going to be months before dudes on the ground start seeing any difference.
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Originally Posted By Nickel_Plated:
Originally Posted By Sketti:
Ah yes, stolen tax payer monies well spent!

"Ukrainian forces suffered considerable territorial losses over the weekend despite receiving a large military aid package from the U.S. in April, according to The New York Times.

From Friday to Sunday, Russian forces captured more square miles per day than they have at nearly any point of the war other than its earliest days, taking nine villages in Ukraine's north while defending fighters fell back, according to the Times. The Russians' advances came just weeks after Congress approved a $61 billion infusion of military aid for the Ukrainian forces on April 21, proponents of which argued that the aid was essential for Ukraine to withstand the invasion."

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Lol, tards thinking that aid voted for, means that money starts hitting Ukrainian bank accounts the next day and the missiles are packed and ready to ship. It's probably going to be months before dudes on the ground start seeing any difference.


Moneys great, as are weapons, but you need troops to use them / wield them. DC should have sent them 100,000 illegals toting cheap AKs and rpgs, and as conscripts/ cannon fodder, vs billions in cash.
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 4:43:42 PM EDT
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Russia claims to have captured just under 25,000 acres. Perhaps they can use that land to start a modestly sized wheat farm.
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 4:44:45 PM EDT
[#16]
Any second now…
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 4:46:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bogdan:
Ah yes the russians setting a new record for daily casualties and equipment loss before the US aid gets here. Sketti thread.
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Don't those figures come from the Ukranian government?  You don't think there's any chance those figures might be skewed?
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 4:47:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bogdan:
Ah yes the russians setting a new record for daily casualties and equipment loss before the US aid gets here. Sketti thread.
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Link Posted: 5/13/2024 4:48:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Kuhndog:
You Putin puffers
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Worst pejorative ever.
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 4:48:36 PM EDT
[#20]
Ukrayne is winning.
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 4:51:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By agillig:
Don't those figures come from the Ukranian government?  You don't think there's any chance those figures might be skewed?
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They could be and Ukraine has lied before but its hard to lie when you have so much drone and video footage. Everything short of individual soldiers taking a dump is getting documented.
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 4:53:10 PM EDT
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It doesn't matter at this point how much money is sent, Ukraine doesn't have the manpower anymore.

Too little too late for a war they'll never win.
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 4:54:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bogdan:
Ah yes the russians setting a new record for daily casualties and equipment loss before the US aid gets here. Sketti thread.
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Yet they have spare troops available to fill our leftover bases in Africa.
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 4:56:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Commando223:


Yet they have spare troops available to fill our leftover bases in Africa.
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They have to because they make so much money off mining there. Their other borders are butt naked and bare.
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 4:59:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Kuhndog:
You Putin puffers never fail to surprise. Ukraine was shell starved and basically out of ammo for months, and it’ll take months for the munitions to get to the front. Russias gains are due to the west’s lack of urgency.

It’s the same foolish surprise Biden and his lackies faced when they dithered on tanks and armored infantry fighting vehicles for months, waiting for Russia to build defense in depth and then being dumbfounded that Ukraine couldn’t penetrate it with 30 Abram tanks and a couple handfuls of Bradleys.

Russis is not our friend, they never will be.

Unlike many other mistakes, Iraqi army, afghan army, south Vietnamese army… Ukraine actually wants to fight. My guess is life under Russia has taught Ukraine what life will be like and they do not want it.
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Do you have a hypothesis as to why the Ukraine didn’t do more to prepare in the 8 years since Russia annexed Crimea?

8 years to prepare and they’re reliant on a gofundme to hold on to eastern manure pastures?
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 5:03:10 PM EDT
[#26]
Y'all even read the aide package?

It doesn't work like a PayPal instant transfer with Amazon same day delivery.

Some of that spending Ukraine may not see for years.
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 5:09:33 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/13/2024 5:11:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Gelandewagen:
Y'all even read the aide package?

It doesn't work like a PayPal instant transfer with Amazon same day delivery.

Some of that spending Ukraine may not see for years.
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Is there an out if Russia defeats Ukraine, or do we still have to pay?
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 5:11:07 PM EDT
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I was told Europe was sending way more than us? Why are they blaming it on the US?
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 5:12:35 PM EDT
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"major gains" lol
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 5:12:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Subpar:

Do you have a hypothesis as to why the Ukraine didn’t do more to prepare in the 8 years since Russia annexed Crimea?

8 years to prepare and they’re reliant on a gofundme to hold on to eastern manure pastures?
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Tell me you've done no research without telling me you have done no research.


The RUSSIANS have literally told you a reason for the invasion was the militarization of Ukraine and expansion of NATO involvement.

Ukraine was shopping for aid but it was mostly blocked and Obama refused to give them any. It wasn't until Trump that we gave them any weapons.

Ukraine also bargain a crash course restructure and training program while cycling conscripts.

Why do you think the UA military didn't break and run when Russia attacked? Why do you think the home guard knew how to use Javelins and a MANPADS?

Link Posted: 5/13/2024 5:15:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BangStick1:
It doesn't matter at this point how much money is sent, Ukraine doesn't have the manpower anymore.

Too little too late for a war they'll never win.
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It never mattered.   Ukraine was never going to win.  

They don’t have the GDP, natural resources, manufacturing nor population to go toe to toe with Russia.  And never did.  

Only chance they ever had to “win” is US or NATO step in between the two and neither is willing to start a full on war to save the most corrupt nation on european continent.

Every thing else is smoke and mirrors.  And of course military industrial complex profit at US taxpayers expense.
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 5:16:43 PM EDT
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43km since the war started.

Half military destroyed.

Sketti:

“Massive gains for Russia!!!!!!!!!”
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 5:16:51 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/13/2024 5:19:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ascendent:
Two things you can count on.

The sun rising in the east and setting in the west, Sketti aiding Russians and any other American enemies he can.
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Still “fighting the Cold War”, are you?

It is apparent you don’t know what is happening, nor why, just as the overwhelming majority of people don’t.

The enemies of America aren’t who  suspect, and they are far more sinister than Vladimir Putin.


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Link Posted: 5/13/2024 5:21:22 PM EDT
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Still “fighting the Cold War”, are you?

It is apparent you don’t know what is happening, nor why, just as the overwhelming majority of people don’t.

The enemies of America aren’t who  suspect, and they are far more sinister than Vladimir Putin.


https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/110515/IMG_2227_jpeg-3213558.JPG


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Originally Posted By yankee43:
Originally Posted By Ascendent:
Two things you can count on.

The sun rising in the east and setting in the west, Sketti aiding Russians and any other American enemies he can.



Still “fighting the Cold War”, are you?

It is apparent you don’t know what is happening, nor why, just as the overwhelming majority of people don’t.

The enemies of America aren’t who  suspect, and they are far more sinister than Vladimir Putin.


https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/110515/IMG_2227_jpeg-3213558.JPG



Is Putin\/Russia an enemy of America?
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 5:21:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cincinnatus:
So much success!

Strange that Putin just fired Shoigu…
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Fired?

He just wanted more time to work on his wood collection. The RU MOD daily briefs clearly prove Shoigu ran this war to the best of Russia's ability, and then some.

Link Posted: 5/13/2024 5:22:03 PM EDT
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The finger can be pointed right at fuckwads like MTG and Speaker Johnson.

6 months of nothing is criminal negligence
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 5:29:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
The finger can be pointed right at fuckwads like MTG and Speaker Johnson.

6 months of nothing is criminal negligence
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Criminal how?
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 5:32:17 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/13/2024 5:33:27 PM EDT
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The blame narrative has already been set. Republicans in congress interrupted the grift long enough for Russia seize the initiative. Left wing sites like CNN will expand this line of reasoning further, and suggest that Trump's rhetoric, and online right wing sites are also to blame for influencing figures like MTG.

When life gives you lemons, make lemonade. When life gives them the fall of avdiivka, they make an argument for censorship out of it.
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 5:34:23 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/13/2024 5:39:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FuriousYachtsman:


Is there an out if Russia defeats Ukraine, or do we still have to pay?
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Originally Posted By FuriousYachtsman:
Originally Posted By Gelandewagen:
Y'all even read the aide package?

It doesn't work like a PayPal instant transfer with Amazon same day delivery.

Some of that spending Ukraine may not see for years.


Is there an out if Russia defeats Ukraine, or do we still have to pay?


Good question.

If Russia finally in spite of their incompetence achieves the inevitable, can we keep whatever hasn’t been blown up? Or do we have to send it to the Russians so they can rebuild the Ukraine?
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 5:44:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FuriousYachtsman:


Criminal how?
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I was speaking figuratively but if you want to be real....

Aiding and abetting a enemy of the United States.
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 5:53:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:

I was speaking figuratively but if you want to be real....

Aiding and abetting a enemy of the United States.
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Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
Originally Posted By FuriousYachtsman:


Criminal how?

I was speaking figuratively but if you want to be real....

Aiding and abetting a enemy of the United States.


Treason is 87% of what Congress does.
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 5:55:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Subpar:

Do you have a hypothesis as to why the Ukraine didn’t do more to prepare in the 8 years since Russia annexed Crimea?

8 years to prepare and they’re reliant on a gofundme to hold on to eastern manure pastures?
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they actually did a lot.  and let's not forget -- at the outset -- Russia was the second largest military in the WORLD.  

the fact that Russia has done so poorly reflects negatively on Russia absolutely.  but also that Ukraine has WAY out-performed expectations.

in fact -- if you consider history -- Ukraine's performance has been legendary.
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 5:55:47 PM EDT
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I thought the French were about to hold part of the line. No worries.
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 5:56:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By buck19delta:


Moneys great, as are weapons, but you need troops to use them / wield them. DC should have sent them 100,000 illegals toting cheap AKs and rpgs, and as conscripts/ cannon fodder, vs billions in cash.
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This is the way.
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 5:58:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bogdan:
Ah yes the russians setting a new record for daily casualties and equipment loss before the US aid gets here. Sketti thread.
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Its funny to me.  Russians tried to beat the aid yet Sketti is so set on supporting Russia that he can't see it.
Link Posted: 5/13/2024 6:00:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 86Tiger:

It never mattered.   Ukraine was never going to win.  

They don’t have the GDP, natural resources, manufacturing nor population to go toe to toe with Russia.  And never did.  

Only chance they ever had to “win” is US or NATO step in between the two and neither is willing to start a full on war to save the most corrupt nation on european continent.

Every thing else is smoke and mirrors.  And of course military industrial complex profit at US taxpayers expense.
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Nailed it!
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