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Link Posted: 8/16/2023 10:53:47 PM EST
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Originally Posted By BaconFat:


You could hit it 11 out of 10 times if you used a red dot
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Originally Posted By BaconFat:
Originally Posted By 03RN:


Meh, 18" at 50 yards is meh. Not bad but not OMG!

I regularly shoot an 8" plate at 50 yards with my iron sighted Springfield loaded. I probably get 2-3 misses every 10 rounds. On the propane tank I m at 100%


You could hit it 11 out of 10 times if you used a red dot


fnh
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 11:07:14 PM EST
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In on page 100!

Edit: made this post with iron sights. Front sight was in focus but the target was blurry.
Link Posted: 8/17/2023 12:42:18 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Rudukai13:


Honestly the Platypus as a LO pistol is probably your best bet considering you already own (presumably) a plethora of Glock mags.

People have been shooting aluminum framed guns for a very long time now, there aren’t any specific durability concerns. It won’t last as long as steel, but it’ll still last a perfectly acceptable length of time even if being used for competition
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I may have 1 or 2 (or 20) Glock mags, and I may be having a stroke with regard to remembering a concern with the aluminum.  Maybe it was simply the finish people were worried about.  I don't get much sleep, these days.

I guess the next question would be which optic cut?
Link Posted: 8/17/2023 11:12:17 AM EST
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Originally Posted By CDPhD:


I may have 1 or 2 (or 20) Glock mags, and I may be having a stroke with regard to remembering a concern with the aluminum.  Maybe it was simply the finish people were worried about.  I don't get much sleep, these days.

I guess the next question would be which optic cut?
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I'd be more worried about the less optimized mags than I would be about the gun wearing out
Link Posted: 8/17/2023 11:34:40 AM EST
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I don't think there's any concern about aluminum with this.
Link Posted: 8/17/2023 12:19:00 PM EST
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Originally Posted By BaconFat:


You could hit it 11 out of 10 times if you used a red dot
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Originally Posted By BaconFat:
Originally Posted By 03RN:


Meh, 18" at 50 yards is meh. Not bad but not OMG!

I regularly shoot an 8" plate at 50 yards with my iron sighted Springfield loaded. I probably get 2-3 misses every 10 rounds. On the propane tank I m at 100%


You could hit it 11 out of 10 times if you used a red dot


I have handguns with mrds and I've never found my accuracy to increase 30%
Link Posted: 8/17/2023 12:21:46 PM EST
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Originally Posted By JoeDevola:
I don't think there's any concern about aluminum with this.
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People are saying aluminum framed guns have a durability issue?

Like… why?
Link Posted: 8/17/2023 12:23:47 PM EST
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Re the Platypus I think it's more a concern that they dont anodize or other metal treatment, just cerakote.
Link Posted: 8/17/2023 12:27:10 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/17/2023 1:26:17 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 03RN:


I have handguns with mrds and I've never found my accuracy to increase 30%
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Are they red or green dots?... you need a green dot to get 11 out of 10 shots
Link Posted: 8/17/2023 1:38:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By shotar:

Because the steel in the slide is harder than the aluminum in the frame.  It's pretty much a non issue if the gun is properly lubed and cared for.  Some of the Aluminum frame guns have developed cracks due to higher pressure rounds being used extensively.  In most cases I think you'd find worn out recoil springs being a contributing factor.
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Originally Posted By 45-Seventy:


People are saying aluminum framed guns have a durability issue?

Like  why?

Because the steel in the slide is harder than the aluminum in the frame.  It's pretty much a non issue if the gun is properly lubed and cared for.  Some of the Aluminum frame guns have developed cracks due to higher pressure rounds being used extensively.  In most cases I think you'd find worn out recoil springs being a contributing factor.
Aluminum 1911s in .45 at least are notorious for not lasting very long, low five digits generally.  And that's with anodized aluminum.
Link Posted: 8/17/2023 1:43:46 PM EST
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Page 91 and we are talking about aluminum and a weird mammal not mammal abomination
Link Posted: 8/17/2023 2:38:03 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Bogdan:
Page 91 and we are talking about aluminum and a weird mammal not mammal abomination
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Scientists were baffled to find a weird glass lens in the pouch of the creature
Link Posted: 8/17/2023 2:50:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Bogdan:
Page 91 and we are talking about aluminum and a weird mammal not mammal abomination
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To get it back on topic the RMS cut on the mammal not mammal is an abomination.
Link Posted: 8/17/2023 3:04:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Bogdan:
Page 91 and we are talking about aluminum and a weird mammal not mammal abomination
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We didn't get to page 91 by staying on topic.
Link Posted: 8/17/2023 3:34:44 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 45-Seventy:


People are saying aluminum framed guns have a durability issue?

Like… why?
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Originally Posted By 45-Seventy:
Originally Posted By JoeDevola:
I don't think there's any concern about aluminum with this.


People are saying aluminum framed guns have a durability issue?

Like… why?


Not that it’s an issue, just that the aluminum frame won’t last as long on a high round count competition pistol as a steel frame would. Still more than long enough to not worry about it though
Link Posted: 8/17/2023 3:54:47 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CDPhD:


I may have 1 or 2 (or 20) Glock mags, and I may be having a stroke with regard to remembering a concern with the aluminum.  Maybe it was simply the finish people were worried about.  I don't get much sleep, these days.

I guess the next question would be which optic cut?
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Originally Posted By Rudukai13:


Honestly the Platypus as a LO pistol is probably your best bet considering you already own (presumably) a plethora of Glock mags.

People have been shooting aluminum framed guns for a very long time now, there aren’t any specific durability concerns. It won’t last as long as steel, but it’ll still last a perfectly acceptable length of time even if being used for competition


I may have 1 or 2 (or 20) Glock mags, and I may be having a stroke with regard to remembering a concern with the aluminum.  Maybe it was simply the finish people were worried about.  I don't get much sleep, these days.

I guess the next question would be which optic cut?


Unless you absolutely need a gun right now I’d wait until they release the standard RMR footprint, or get it uncut and send the slide somewhere to get machined for the RMR footprint
Link Posted: 8/17/2023 5:15:02 PM EST
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Originally Posted By November5:
Aluminum 1911s in .45 at least are notorious for not lasting very long, low five digits generally.  And that's with anodized aluminum.
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Originally Posted By November5:
Originally Posted By shotar:
Originally Posted By 45-Seventy:


People are saying aluminum framed guns have a durability issue?

Like  why?

Because the steel in the slide is harder than the aluminum in the frame.  It's pretty much a non issue if the gun is properly lubed and cared for.  Some of the Aluminum frame guns have developed cracks due to higher pressure rounds being used extensively.  In most cases I think you'd find worn out recoil springs being a contributing factor.
Aluminum 1911s in .45 at least are notorious for not lasting very long, low five digits generally.  And that's with anodized aluminum.


I think that myth has more to do with metal followers dinging the feed ramps in AL guns.
Link Posted: 8/17/2023 5:19:29 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 03RN:


I think that myth has more to do with metal followers dinging the feed ramps in AL guns.
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And if your gun doesn't have a ramped barrel I think EGW makes a steel frame ramp insert.
Link Posted: 8/17/2023 5:39:23 PM EST
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Originally Posted By AK-12:


And if your gun doesn't have a ramped barrel I think EGW makes a steel frame ramp insert.
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Originally Posted By 03RN:


I think that myth has more to do with metal followers dinging the feed ramps in AL guns.


And if your gun doesn't have a ramped barrel I think EGW makes a steel frame ramp insert.


I'd personally prefer to just use Wilson mags.
Link Posted: 8/17/2023 5:58:45 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 03RN:


I'd personally prefer to just use Wilson mags.
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Get both.

My lightweight has a ramped barrel and I only use Wilson mags.

The Chip mags and other metal followers were pecking at my frame, though. That prompted the switch.
Link Posted: 8/17/2023 6:02:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 11boomboom:

Get both.

My lightweight has a ramped barrel and I only use Wilson mags.

The Chip mags and other metal followers were pecking at my frame, though. That prompted the switch.
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Originally Posted By 11boomboom:
Originally Posted By 03RN:


I'd personally prefer to just use Wilson mags.

Get both.

My lightweight has a ramped barrel and I only use Wilson mags.

The Chip mags and other metal followers were pecking at my frame, though. That prompted the switch.


My lw champion does as well with no issues but Hilton Yam doesn't recommend them in .45s due to bullet angle when feeding. I love my lw champion though.

Link Posted: 8/17/2023 11:12:30 PM EST
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Identify as a stapler

Link Posted: 8/17/2023 11:33:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Rudukai13:


Unless you absolutely need a gun right now I’d wait until they release the standard RMR footprint, or get it uncut and send the slide somewhere to get machined for the RMR footprint
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No hurry, for me.  More time to see what happens with this whole thing, I suppose - especially with the apparently unoptimized mags referenced above.  That's probably for the other thread, though.
Link Posted: 8/17/2023 11:53:42 PM EST
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Originally Posted By CDPhD:


No hurry, for me.  More time to see what happens with this whole thing, I suppose - especially with the apparently unoptimized mags referenced above.  That's probably for the other thread, though.
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Originally Posted By CDPhD:
Originally Posted By Rudukai13:


Unless you absolutely need a gun right now I’d wait until they release the standard RMR footprint, or get it uncut and send the slide somewhere to get machined for the RMR footprint


No hurry, for me.  More time to see what happens with this whole thing, I suppose - especially with the apparently unoptimized mags referenced above.  That's probably for the other thread, though.


I donno what’s meant by the mags being “unoptimized”, kind of the point of the gun is that it uses Glock mags and I haven’t heard of anyone having a single malfunction with one yet
Link Posted: 8/18/2023 5:12:17 AM EST
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Do you drive around just to take pictures of your guns?
Link Posted: 8/18/2023 8:37:03 AM EST
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I finally joined the "red dot on a pistol" club.  My 50th birthday present:
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Link Posted: 8/18/2023 9:55:46 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Rudukai13:


I donno what’s meant by the mags being “unoptimized”, kind of the point of the gun is that it uses Glock mags and I haven’t heard of anyone having a single malfunction with one yet
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They waste space... metal magazine, wrapped in plastic. Adds weight and reduces space that could be used to shove another round in them.
Link Posted: 8/18/2023 11:58:00 AM EST
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Originally Posted By BMSMB:

They waste space... metal magazine, wrapped in plastic. Adds weight and reduces space that could be used to shove another round in them.
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Originally Posted By Rudukai13:


I donno what’s meant by the mags being “unoptimized”, kind of the point of the gun is that it uses Glock mags and I haven’t heard of anyone having a single malfunction with one yet

They waste space... metal magazine, wrapped in plastic. Adds weight and reduces space that could be used to shove another round in them.


Well sure, but that’s just how Glock mags have always been. They’re also working on the option to use P320 mags too, but since he said he already has a large collection of 9mm Glock mags it makes sense to go for the option of magazine commonality
Link Posted: 8/18/2023 12:12:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By BMSMB:

They waste space... metal magazine, wrapped in plastic. Adds weight and reduces space that could be used to shove another round in them.
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The locking notch is also plastic instead of metal.
Link Posted: 8/18/2023 3:23:33 PM EST
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I finally joined the "red dot on a pistol" club.  My 50th birthday present:
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Ohhhh my.
Link Posted: 8/18/2023 4:13:13 PM EST
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Originally Posted By BaconFat:



Do you drive around just to take pictures of your guns?
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To the range
Link Posted: 8/18/2023 9:58:19 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Adidas02:
I finally joined the "red dot on a pistol" club.  My 50th birthday present:
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You will be ruined for everything else for the rest of your life.

Good purchase
Link Posted: 8/18/2023 10:09:23 PM EST
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Originally Posted By BMSMB:

They waste space... metal magazine, wrapped in plastic. Adds weight and reduces space that could be used to shove another round in them.
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Originally Posted By Rudukai13:


I donno what's meant by the mags being "unoptimized", kind of the point of the gun is that it uses Glock mags and I haven't heard of anyone having a single malfunction with one yet

They waste space... metal magazine, wrapped in plastic. Adds weight and reduces space that could be used to shove another round in them.
When you compare length to capacity Glock mags are some of if not the most efficient double stack single feed mags around.  Sure they could be thinner, but there's not much you could do to get more rounds in them at their current length.
Link Posted: 8/18/2023 11:20:02 PM EST
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We didn't get to page 91 by staying on topic.
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We haven’t talked about buttholes in awhile….
Link Posted: 8/18/2023 11:20:50 PM EST
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We didn't get to page 91 by staying on topic.
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… and I love me some buttholes.
Link Posted: 8/18/2023 11:40:11 PM EST
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Chynason is back from the warranty

You may not like it, but this is what peak modern conceal carry looks like:


Link Posted: 8/19/2023 6:23:49 AM EST
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Originally Posted By CDPhD:


I may have 1 or 2 (or 20) Glock mags, and I may be having a stroke with regard to remembering a concern with the aluminum.  Maybe it was simply the finish people were worried about.  I don't get much sleep, these days.

I guess the next question would be which optic cut?
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RMR cut.

This will enable you to use an SRO or a 508 Comp.  2 good optic choices for competition.
Link Posted: 8/19/2023 7:13:32 AM EST
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Originally Posted By November5:
Aluminum 1911s in .45 at least are notorious for not lasting very long, low five digits generally.  And that's with anodized aluminum.
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Source ??
Link Posted: 8/19/2023 7:16:55 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/19/2023 7:18:11 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Rudukai13:. I donno what’s meant by the mags being “unoptimized”, kind of the point of the gun is that it uses Glock mags and I haven’t heard of anyone having a single malfunction with one yet
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Link Posted: 8/19/2023 7:18:40 AM EST
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Originally Posted By BaconFat:
Do you drive around just to take pictures of your guns?
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Doesn’t everyone??
Link Posted: 8/19/2023 7:23:23 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Missilegeek:. Chynason is back from the warranty. You may not like it, but this is what peak modern conceal carry looks like
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Link Posted: 8/19/2023 7:30:44 AM EST
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Not what your mom told me. Ba Zinga!
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Be careful about including family members in any reply.
I was reported for including a family member in my response to the Maui fire thread. Most of my response was deleted and I am banned from the thread.
COC 4 - I think.
Link Posted: 8/19/2023 7:33:47 AM EST
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Source ??
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Originally Posted By November5:
Aluminum 1911s in .45 at least are notorious for not lasting very long, low five digits generally.  And that's with anodized aluminum.

Source ??
I've seen a few Commanders with cracked frames.  I've also cracked the frame on a Springfield ultra compact.  Most people are never going to hit 20-30,000 rounds out of a single gun.
Link Posted: 8/19/2023 7:38:21 AM EST
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Are they red or green dots?... you need a green dot to get 11 out of 10 shots
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What about a red dot that goes up to 11?

Link Posted: 8/19/2023 7:43:21 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Missilegeek:
Chynason is back from the warranty

You may not like it, but this is what peak modern conceal carry looks like:
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Looks like your dog crapped on your floor
Link Posted: 8/19/2023 7:48:17 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Missilegeek:
Chynason is back from the warranty

You may not like it, but this is what peak modern conceal carry looks like:
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Link Posted: 8/19/2023 8:09:15 AM EST
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Originally Posted By New2AR15s:
Originally Posted By Missilegeek:
Chynason is back from the warranty

You may not like it, but this is what peak modern conceal carry looks like:
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As a guy with a G21 avatar pic...

No relevant factory slide cut, no care. MOS is AIDS. Glock stock triggers are aids. Glock ergonomics were designed by Euro fags used to having dicks in their hands all day. Shield Arms had to teach them how to build a relevant magazine. The good Glocks are 87% modified. The best Glocks don't even use a  Glock frame.  

Sig, Springfield, P80, Palmetto and Taurus figured out how to make a factory gun with a relevant factory slide cut, relevant mags, and better trigger than Glock. Also better ergos. It's 2023, unfuck yourselves Glock.

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