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Posted: 3/20/2019 11:11:35 PM EDT
The Noblex Glock Sight. Fits the MOS cutout with no adapter plate.
While this isn’t full integrated into the slide, it’s as far as I’d want to go. Any more and you’re going to have to take the entire slide out of commission to fix things if the dot goes down. More Info Here |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 11:15:05 PM EDT
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It's a cool concept I just wonder if you actually gain anything over the setups we see now.
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Posted: 3/20/2019 11:16:01 PM EDT
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Tagging for updates
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Posted: 3/20/2019 11:16:48 PM EDT
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I don't get it. It looks like the main benefits of a RDS are limited in that small of a viewing window.
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Posted: 3/20/2019 11:16:55 PM EDT
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It's a cool concept I just wonder if you actually gain anything over the setups we see now. |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 11:17:08 PM EDT
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It's a cool concept I just wonder if you actually gain anything over the setups we see now. |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 11:18:09 PM EDT
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I'll be honest. I want to see a pop-up RMR-type sight that flips up when you draw, or can be pushed down to use iron sights.
Im certain that it has no advantages, but I has been drinking. |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 11:18:31 PM EDT
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I don't get it. It looks like the main benefits of a RDS are limited in that small of a viewing window. |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 11:19:41 PM EDT
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That is cool, but IMHO they should have made it smooth enough to not snag on things even if it made it larger.
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Posted: 3/20/2019 11:19:48 PM EDT
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The real future is bore sighted pistols slaved to Bluetooth enabled contact lenses.
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Posted: 3/20/2019 11:20:42 PM EDT
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A true cowitness would be huge for the learning curve. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's a cool concept I just wonder if you actually gain anything over the setups we see now. |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 11:21:20 PM EDT
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The real future is bore sighted pistols slaved to Bluetooth enabled contact lenses. 
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Posted: 3/20/2019 11:22:53 PM EDT
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A true cowitness would be huge for the learning curve. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's a cool concept I just wonder if you actually gain anything over the setups we see now. |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 11:35:43 PM EDT
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Yep, something I've noticed with the Shield RMS, it's much easier to pick up the dot than with an RMR even though the glass is significantly smaller. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's a cool concept I just wonder if you actually gain anything over the setups we see now. |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 11:39:29 PM EDT
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Still have 2 early Docter optic red dots (13 years) and still running strong
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Posted: 3/20/2019 11:53:07 PM EDT
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How does the end-user sight it in? I see no elevation or windage adjustment controls.
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Posted: 3/20/2019 11:56:55 PM EDT
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Still have 2 early Docter optic red dots (13 years) and still running strong |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 11:58:30 PM EDT
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How does the end-user sight it in? I see no elevation or windage adjustment controls. |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 11:59:51 PM EDT
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How does the end-user sight it in? I see no elevation or windage adjustment controls. |
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Posted: 3/21/2019 12:08:17 AM EDT
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Hmmm. Made by Docter so its gotta be decent quality at least.
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Posted: 3/21/2019 12:19:24 AM EDT
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A true cowitness would be huge for the learning curve. |
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Posted: 3/21/2019 12:21:45 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/21/2019 12:24:47 AM EDT
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I assume the two indented round areas are the adjustment "knobs" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How does the end-user sight it in? I see no elevation or windage adjustment controls. |
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Posted: 3/21/2019 12:34:11 AM EDT
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A true cowitness would be huge for the learning curve. Quoted:
Yep, something I've noticed with the Shield RMS, it's much easier to pick up the dot than with an RMR even though the glass is significantly smaller. Quoted:
The video says no adjustment. Mount and hope for the best. |
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Posted: 3/21/2019 12:41:32 AM EDT
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Wow. No dovetail to cut.
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Posted: 3/21/2019 12:48:47 AM EDT
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The entire optic needs to be level with the top of the slide.
The future is projection without a glass lens to get damaged. |
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Posted: 3/21/2019 12:53:59 AM EDT
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The entire optic needs to be level with the top of the slide. The future is projection without a glass lens to get damaged. |
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Posted: 3/21/2019 12:56:01 AM EDT
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Is there any purpose to the wings on the sides?
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Posted: 3/21/2019 12:58:54 AM EDT
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Is there any purpose to the wings on the sides? |
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Posted: 3/21/2019 1:13:03 AM EDT
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what about an LED illuminated front sight?
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Posted: 3/21/2019 1:13:41 AM EDT
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Wow. No dovetail to cut. |
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Posted: 3/21/2019 2:10:33 AM EDT
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Window seems a bit too small. The RMR window is small, but still workable...I don't know how well that one will be.
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Is there any purpose to the wings on the sides? |
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Posted: 3/21/2019 2:14:20 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/21/2019 2:15:22 AM EDT
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It does look really small. |
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Posted: 3/21/2019 2:20:13 AM EDT
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Are RMRs really that much better than irons?
How about while carrying? Does it effect that? |
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Posted: 3/21/2019 2:23:21 AM EDT
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I really don't see what's so wrong with the current crop of slide-mounted dots that this supposedly solves. They're really not that bulky, they don't add size to the dimensions of the pistol that are difficult to conceal, and I wouldn't want a window much smaller than an RMR anyway. It's innovative, certainly, and will be interesting to see how it develops. I suppose I'm just skeptical for now.
What I'd really like to see is more development of frame-mounted, non-reciprocating optics on duty/carry pistols. That's the next step |
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Posted: 3/21/2019 2:24:09 AM EDT
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Are RMRs really that much better than irons? How about while carrying? Does it effect that? |
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Posted: 3/21/2019 2:29:34 AM EDT
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Kinda neat, I suppose it would make it a little easier to conceal or use in a holster? Doctor Optics makes really good sights, I had their MRDS that I sold to a buddy when I got an Aimpoint. He put it on a scope offset and it's still going strong.
I know HERA Arms had a prototype (for a very short period of time) of a red-dot with a flip up screen, I don't think it ended up being feasible at all but maybe it's a better evolution rather than such a teeny window. 
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Posted: 3/21/2019 2:30:55 AM EDT
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Interesting
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Posted: 3/21/2019 2:35:00 AM EDT
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Is it me or is the most important picture not loading or borked at that link?
Not a single sight picture?  And IN before someone beats this on a fence post! |
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Posted: 3/21/2019 3:11:32 AM EDT
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Looks pretty interesting. Searching around I also see they have a shotgun sight (“5.0 VR”) that appears similar in construction. They say it has a steel body.
https://www.optics-trade.eu/us/docter-quicksight-5-0-vr.html Here’s a vid on the “5.0 VR”  Docter QUICKsight 5.0 VR Red Dot Sight review ETA: I found a “through the sight” pic here: https://www.av-ase.fi/ase/tuote/noblex-glock-mos-50-moa-punapiste/4022203557804/ No idea what that site says, but here’s the pic  Attached FileNo dot visible though. Anywhoo, looking through that window, it might not be that bad of a tradeoff in size since the horizontal plane of the slide will help keep you honest in your presentation. 
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Posted: 3/21/2019 3:21:20 AM EDT
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Is it me or is the most important picture not loading or borked at that link? Not a single sight picture? And IN before someone beats this on a fence post! 
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Posted: 3/21/2019 5:18:53 AM EDT
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The video says no adjustment. Mount and hope for the best. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How does the end-user sight it in? I see no elevation or windage adjustment controls. ETA it is adjustable |
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Posted: 3/21/2019 5:42:14 AM EDT
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That looks great. I'd try it.
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Posted: 3/21/2019 5:53:42 AM EDT
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Are RMRs really that much better than irons? How about while carrying? Does it effect that? As for carrying, I was able to put my buddy's CZ P-10c with RMR into my Safariland Glock holster no problem. |
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Posted: 3/21/2019 6:03:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As for acquiring targets, I'm still on the fence as to whether that's quicker with a dot than with irons. So far I've only played around with RMS sights on friends' pistols, but I have a hard time getting the presentation to be automatic. Of course, it would improve with practice. |
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Posted: 3/21/2019 6:07:56 AM EDT
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You can cowitness now with tall sights on current setups. I know it's a bit higher but I'm not convinced that matters much after talking to and shooting with a bunch of USPSA open shooters. |
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Posted: 3/21/2019 9:57:09 AM EDT
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Once you're dialed in it probably doesn't really matter. But in my experience a lower sight window does reduce the learning curve a bit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You can cowitness now with tall sights on current setups. I know it's a bit higher but I'm not convinced that matters much after talking to and shooting with a bunch of USPSA open shooters. |
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Posted: 3/21/2019 10:01:32 AM EDT
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I'll be honest. I want to see a pop-up RMR-type sight that flips up when you draw, or can be pushed down to use iron sights. Im certain that it has no advantages, but I has been drinking. 
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Posted: 3/21/2019 10:07:17 AM EDT
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Even if it's not perfect i'm pretty happy to see development going on for handgun applications.
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Posted: 3/21/2019 11:07:30 AM EDT
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Even if it's not perfect i'm pretty happy to see development going on for handgun applications. |
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