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Posted: 2/28/2021 11:39:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pretty sure almost all tools communicate with the battery on the m18 line. It's definitely not just limited to the fuel line. Fuel is their top of the line tools- have "powerstate" motors, their top motor, have more features like more adjustable speeds, some you can get with one key, which tracks and allows some adjustment to the power settings (limit torque, etc), they will have electronic torque limiting clutches vs clutch type, generally more compact, more powerful, etc. I buy fuel tools if it's offered. The cost is generally not a lot more, say $120 vs $150 for the drill, and the fuel tools have always impressed me. The non fuel, ehh, not much different than a ryobi, dewalt, etc, from a performance angle. Here's an example, brushless m18 hammer drill vs fuel hammer drill- Brushless, $119 Fuel, non one key, $150 1200 in lbs vs 725 in lbs, both are about the same size and weight. For 30 bucks more it's a no brained to me. |
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Posted: 3/1/2021 10:00:09 AM EDT
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UPDATE
Well, I ordered some tools! I just put an online order in from Home Depot for a Milwaukee kit.  - M18 Fuel Hammer Drill/Driver (#2804-20) - M18 Fuel Impact Driver (#2853-20) - M18 Fuel Hackzall - 2x 5.0Ah Red Lithium batteries + 1 free 5.0Ah battery $399 before tax. I'm guessing three 5 Ah batteries may be overkill initially, but I'm thinking about grabbing the framing nailer once I start the basement project, so it'll be nice to have extras down the road. I figure these tools will last me for years, so I wanted to get something nice. Can't wait to get the tools, the house, and start using them! Thank you all for the help; so much to consider. I would've driven myself crazy had I kept reading, so I decided to just do it.  |
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Posted: 3/1/2021 10:18:34 AM EDT
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Ya did good. No 3 batteries isn’t overkill at all. Now ya need a Milwaukee grinder. And accessories for all. Btw you can get socket adapters for that impact that works awesome for lagbolts. And for sure impact rated drive bits.
Umm. Get good ones because the cheap HF stuff will end up twisted like a pretzel or snap. BTDT.
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Posted: 3/1/2021 10:31:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ya did good. No 3 batteries isn't overkill at all. Now ya need a Milwaukee grinder. And accessories for all. Btw you can get socket adapters for that impact that works awesome for lagbolts. And for sure impact rated drive bits. Umm. Get good ones because the cheap HF stuff will end up twisted like a pretzel or snap. BTDT. |
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Posted: 3/1/2021 10:51:24 AM EDT
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I recently bought all the same tools you did as well as a router and orbital sander. I also have the 12 volt kit. I am impressed with the fuel line and glad I went with them as my choice.
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Posted: 3/1/2021 11:10:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: UPDATE Well, I ordered some tools! I just put an online order in from Home Depot for a Milwaukee kit. - M18 Fuel Hammer Drill/Driver (#2804-20) - M18 Fuel Impact Driver (#2853-20) - M18 Fuel Hackzall - 2x 5.0Ah Red Lithium batteries + 1 free 5.0Ah battery $399 before tax. I'm guessing three 5 Ah batteries may be overkill initially, but I'm thinking about grabbing the framing nailer once I start the basement project, so it'll be nice to have extras down the road. I figure these tools will last me for years, so I wanted to get something nice. Can't wait to get the tools, the house, and start using them! Thank you all for the help; so much to consider. I would've driven myself crazy had I kept reading, so I decided to just do it. Good choices! The 5ah batteries can be cumbersome for the drill and impact, the new 3ah are a good fit for them, or the 2ah. |
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Posted: 3/1/2021 11:15:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: UPDATE Well, I ordered some tools! I just put an online order in from Home Depot for a Milwaukee kit. - M18 Fuel Hammer Drill/Driver (#2804-20) - M18 Fuel Impact Driver (#2853-20) - M18 Fuel Hackzall - 2x 5.0Ah Red Lithium batteries + 1 free 5.0Ah battery $399 before tax. I'm guessing three 5 Ah batteries may be overkill initially, but I'm thinking about grabbing the framing nailer once I start the basement project, so it'll be nice to have extras down the road. I figure these tools will last me for years, so I wanted to get something nice. Can't wait to get the tools, the house, and start using them! Thank you all for the help; so much to consider. I would've driven myself crazy had I kept reading, so I decided to just do it. You’ll like them. Post a review when you get them. Welcome to the addiction. |
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Posted: 3/1/2021 12:46:20 PM EDT
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Thanks, fellas! Yeah, I bet this stuff is like guns lol. Get hooked and buy all the things!
Good tip on the smaller batteries. I'll either pick one up, or try to snag my next tool with the smaller battery. |
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Posted: 3/1/2021 7:23:52 PM EDT
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I would get this instead of just a smaller battery
I keep a 6ah battery in my heavy half inch drill. When I grab that one I need a hole RFN. Most the time though a compact lightweight 3/8" drill takes care of what I need and is a lot easier to deal with. |
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Posted: 3/1/2021 9:45:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They're all made in China. https://www.dewalt.com/products/power-tools/products-made-in-the-usa |
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Posted: 3/1/2021 10:05:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would get this instead of just a smaller battery I keep a 6ah battery in my heavy half inch drill. When I grab that one I need a hole RFN. Most the time though a compact lightweight 3/8" drill takes care of what I need and is a lot easier to deal with. So, it’s a dangerous game to get in, but when you compare that to the m12 fuel drill and impact, it’s like $50 more for the kit, and they are so much better. 1/2 chuck, smaller, lighter, stronger. It’s just a little bit more, lol. I keep telling myself that |
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Posted: 3/1/2021 11:15:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: UPDATE Well, I ordered some tools! I just put an online order in from Home Depot for a Milwaukee kit. - M18 Fuel Hammer Drill/Driver (#2804-20) - M18 Fuel Impact Driver (#2853-20) - M18 Fuel Hackzall - 2x 5.0Ah Red Lithium batteries + 1 free 5.0Ah battery $399 before tax. I'm guessing three 5 Ah batteries may be overkill initially, but I'm thinking about grabbing the framing nailer once I start the basement project, so it'll be nice to have extras down the road. I figure these tools will last me for years, so I wanted to get something nice. Can't wait to get the tools, the house, and start using them! Thank you all for the help; so much to consider. I would've driven myself crazy had I kept reading, so I decided to just do it. You chose well on the tools. I used that impact driver to remove some lug nuts on my car, with an adapter, this weekend. For future battery purchases look into the High Output 3, 6 and 8 ah deals. |
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Posted: 3/2/2021 9:29:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ha! 3x5ah batteries being too much. You have no idea what rabbit hole you have gone down. I have 6 or 7 M18 tools and about 10 M18 batteries. Also have 6 or 7 M12 tools and 12 or so M12 batteries. Welcome to the addiction! I have no use for all those batteries, but, I also have no use for multiple Glocks and AR's.. You chose well on the tools. I used that impact driver to remove some lug nuts on my car, with an adapter, this weekend. For future battery purchases look into the High Output 3, 6 and 8 ah deals. |
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Posted: 3/2/2021 10:04:34 AM EDT
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I killed a 6 month old M18 Fuel hammer drill/driver at work.
The impact it came with is having issues sometimes with the battery connection even when it seems all the contacts are clean. I'll let my work buy Milwaukee. But for me it's Makita or Dewalt |
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Posted: 3/8/2021 8:40:23 PM EDT
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So, I've been able to use the drill and impact driver a few times (nothing major), but man, they just feel great! Wish I would have bought them years ago.
Today, however, I got to use the Hackzall for the first time. Actually, I've never used anything like that before. We lost the keys to our storage unit and had to cut two locks off. They were those round disc locks. The other day we used a guy's angle grinder on the first lock. Did a good job, but a little awkward. Today, for lock #2, I stopped by Ace Hardware and bought a Diablo blade rated for thick steel. Oh damn, now that was fun! Like a hot knife thru butter.  I just want to cut all the things now, lol. |
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Posted: 3/8/2021 8:59:48 PM EDT
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Lol. Buy a selection of blades for that thing! Pretty cool when you compare it to using a manual hacksaw ??. The cordless side grinder with some cutting wheels, grinding wheels and sanding disks is a nice addition to your kit as well. Their fuel model has a quick stop feature that stops the wheel in almost no time.
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Posted: 3/9/2021 1:00:32 PM EDT
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Get some Diablo pruning blades and it will handle a lot of stuff in your yard. I have the M12 and M18 versions, theyre awesome
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Posted: 3/9/2021 6:17:23 PM EDT
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Cordless reciprocating saw is awesome for cleaning deer.
Zip the legs right off |
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Posted: 3/9/2021 10:22:39 PM EDT
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Good ideas, guys! I hadn't considered several of those.
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Posted: 3/11/2021 2:16:34 PM EDT
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I have way to many corded industrial grade tools to bother.
And plenty of #10 extension cords in 50 foot sections. I do switch them all to twist lock connectors. And an adapter lives on the end of every tool cord. I have adapters that go both ways. My fixed tools in my shop have cords made from purchased extension cords. Cut off about a foot on the female cord end. Save that piece of an adapter. Wire up tool. A nice molded male plug on the end of a suitable cord. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 12:31:26 AM EDT
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got a link for that particular deal?
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Posted: 3/13/2021 12:49:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: got a link for that particular deal? I threw together a riser for my computer monitor this afternoon. The only 120V tool I used was a miter saw. M18 Fuel drill, M18 impact, Kreg jig, Ryobi brad nailer. Only wall powered tool was the miter saw. Love these fuel tools. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 1:33:10 AM EDT
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nah asking about the ops package, i can only find that for like 550.
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Posted: 3/13/2021 11:46:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you are asking the poster above you then no. Battery powered tools are where it is at now. I threw together a riser for my computer monitor this afternoon. The only 120V tool I used was a miter saw. M18 Fuel drill, M18 impact, Kreg jig, Ryobi brad nailer. Only wall powered tool was the miter saw. Love these fuel tools. We have similar taste 
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Posted: 3/13/2021 4:15:53 PM EDT
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Almost 40 and just bought my first cordless drill today.
 I've managed to get by with an old corded drill and an extension cord for years, but have some projects coming up where a cordless drill will just be really convenient. After some research, I went with Dewalt. It was basically a toss up between Dewalt, Milwaukee and Makita. They all seem to be pretty even, from what I've read. I already had a bunch of Dewalt bit kits, so maybe that steered me to the black and yellow. I got a combo kit (DCD791P1) that comes with a DCB791 20V MAX XR Brushless 1/2" cordless Drill/Driver, 5ah battery, charger and bag. HD had it for $150 + tax, but I got it for $150 OTD, thanks to a $10 off coupon. I saw some old deals where you basically got the same kit, plus another free tool, but I didn't feel like waiting for it to come back around. We'll see if I stick with Dewalt, or try something else. But battery commonality will probably win the day. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 10:34:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: got a link for that particular deal? Deals come and go, just keep looking and shoot for about 30% off |
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Posted: 3/15/2021 9:22:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Almost 40 and just bought my first cordless drill today. I've managed to get by with an old corded drill and an extension cord for years, but have some projects coming up where a cordless drill will just be really convenient. After some research, I went with Dewalt. It was basically a toss up between Dewalt, Milwaukee and Makita. They all seem to be pretty even, from what I've read. I already had a bunch of Dewalt bit kits, so maybe that steered me to the black and yellow. I got a combo kit (DCD791P1) that comes with a DCB791 20V MAX XR Brushless 1/2" cordless Drill/Driver, 5ah battery, charger and bag. HD had it for $150 + tax, but I got it for $150 OTD, thanks to a $10 off coupon. I saw some old deals where you basically got the same kit, plus another free tool, but I didn't feel like waiting for it to come back around. We'll see if I stick with Dewalt, or try something else. But battery commonality will probably win the day. I got that kit this past black Friday with a jigsaw as the free tool. The drill was an upgrade from my 7 year old brushed 20v dewalt. It's still running but has lost some of it's reliability. The new one blows it out of the water. I think I'm up to about a dozen batteries and 13 dewalt 20v tools. |
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Posted: 3/15/2021 9:29:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: nah asking about the ops package, i can only find that for like 550. ETA: Shoot, looks like it's over. That's what I'm seeing now as well. You can get the hammer drill/driver and impact driver + free battery for $349, but it won't include the Hackzall. FWIW, on one of those YouTube channels recommended earlier (Page 2??), the guy shops the Brinkman store (#577) as it seems like they have better deals and/or higher quantities on hand. I compared that store to a few in my area and that Brinkman store did run better discounts than my nearby stores. Like $349 vs $399 on things. |
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Posted: 3/15/2021 2:51:33 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I got that kit this past black Friday with a jigsaw as the free tool. The drill was an upgrade from my 7 year old brushed 20v dewalt. It's still running but has lost some of it's reliability. The new one blows it out of the water. I think I'm up to about a dozen batteries and 13 dewalt 20v tools. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Almost 40 and just bought my first cordless drill today. I've managed to get by with an old corded drill and an extension cord for years, but have some projects coming up where a cordless drill will just be really convenient. After some research, I went with Dewalt. It was basically a toss up between Dewalt, Milwaukee and Makita. They all seem to be pretty even, from what I've read. I already had a bunch of Dewalt bit kits, so maybe that steered me to the black and yellow. I got a combo kit (DCD791P1) that comes with a DCB791 20V MAX XR Brushless 1/2" cordless Drill/Driver, 5ah battery, charger and bag. HD had it for $150 + tax, but I got it for $150 OTD, thanks to a $10 off coupon. I saw some old deals where you basically got the same kit, plus another free tool, but I didn't feel like waiting for it to come back around. We'll see if I stick with Dewalt, or try something else. But battery commonality will probably win the day. I got that kit this past black Friday with a jigsaw as the free tool. The drill was an upgrade from my 7 year old brushed 20v dewalt. It's still running but has lost some of it's reliability. The new one blows it out of the water. I think I'm up to about a dozen batteries and 13 dewalt 20v tools. I got to use the drill a bit over the weekend and I'm loving it so far. Really impressive compared to the old corded brushed drill I'd used for years. Next up is probably an impact driver and some more batteries. And possibly the inflator. |
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Posted: 3/15/2021 7:08:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I got to use the drill a bit over the weekend and I'm loving it so far. Really impressive compared to the old corded brushed drill I'd used for years. Next up is probably an impact driver and some more batteries. And possibly the inflator. |
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Posted: 3/15/2021 8:02:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait on any new purchases until the first or second week of April. Spring Black Friday at HD, Lowe's and some on the online tool stores should start then. They usually do buy a battery starter set, get a free tool or buy a combo kit get 2 tools. I think I got my M12 Rocket Light last spring with a $170 or $180 charger, bag and 2 4ah battery kit. Not sure what they'll have this year since last spring was covid time Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I got to use the drill a bit over the weekend and I'm loving it so far. Really impressive compared to the old corded brushed drill I'd used for years. Next up is probably an impact driver and some more batteries. And possibly the inflator. Thanks for the heads up. I'll keep an eye out. I do have Slickdeals alerts for Home Depot, Lowes, and Dewalt, to get notified of any deals that may pop up. |
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Posted: 3/15/2021 9:29:53 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks for the heads up. I'll keep an eye out. I do have Slickdeals alerts for Home Depot, Lowes, and Dewalt, to get notified of any deals that may pop up. |
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Posted: 3/16/2021 5:38:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He can be annoying, but Tool Boss on Youtube usually has the HD and Lowes deals nailed ahead of others. His "hacks" are also a good way to save cash if you don't mind gaming the system at HD (some see this as dishonest). The hack is buying the kit with the free tool(s) then returning either the kit or tool. The percentages on the discount drive down the cost of the item you decide to keep. I've not done this yet, but it seems as though it works in store only most of the time... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Thanks for the heads up. I'll keep an eye out. I do have Slickdeals alerts for Home Depot, Lowes, and Dewalt, to get notified of any deals that may pop up. Yeah, I've seen a lot of talk about people doing that in the Slickdeals comments section of tool deals. |
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Posted: 3/23/2021 6:54:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He can be annoying, but Tool Boss on Youtube usually has the HD and Lowes deals nailed ahead of others. His "hacks" are also a good way to save cash if you don't mind gaming the system at HD (some see this as dishonest). The hack is buying the kit with the free tool(s) then returning either the kit or tool. The percentages on the discount drive down the cost of the item you decide to keep. I've not done this yet, but it seems as though it works in store only most of the time... is this how people get massive cache's of new tools that they sell on FB marketplace? there is a guy that's local to me and has the complete line of dewalt/milwaukee/ryobi tools for sale with price list. |
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Posted: 3/23/2021 7:16:13 AM EDT
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My $.02 - buy as many tools for the platform as you can. Once they're discontinued, they'll be hard or impossible to find. Batteries will likely continue to be available, but once the tools are gone, they're gone.
I kinda went hog-wild... Not shown is the wet/dry vac...  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/23/2021 12:37:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My $.02 - buy as many tools for the platform as you can. Once they're discontinued, they'll be hard or impossible to find. Batteries will likely continue to be available, but once the tools are gone, they're gone. I kinda went hog-wild... Not shown is the wet/dry vac... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/145716/20210323_071454_jpg-1876562.JPG  I'm still rocking the only three that I bought, but been using them and my DeWalt miter saw a lot lately. Have two sets of overhead shelves in the garage up, and made a set of shelves for the basement storage room as well. Been putting my 14yo son to work, too. He's learning how to measure, cut, etc. Been fun! He even gets to watch dad kick himself for measuring from the wrong side and f'ing the whole thing up! $$ That's what happens when you rush, I suppose lol.
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Posted: 3/23/2021 3:45:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: is this how people get massive cache's of new tools that they sell on FB marketplace? there is a guy that's local to me and has the complete line of dewalt/milwaukee/ryobi tools for sale with price list. |
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Posted: 3/24/2021 7:12:56 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: is this how people get massive cache's of new tools that they sell on FB marketplace? there is a guy that's local to me and has the complete line of dewalt/milwaukee/ryobi tools for sale with price list. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He can be annoying, but Tool Boss on Youtube usually has the HD and Lowes deals nailed ahead of others. His "hacks" are also a good way to save cash if you don't mind gaming the system at HD (some see this as dishonest). The hack is buying the kit with the free tool(s) then returning either the kit or tool. The percentages on the discount drive down the cost of the item you decide to keep. I've not done this yet, but it seems as though it works in store only most of the time... is this how people get massive cache's of new tools that they sell on FB marketplace? there is a guy that's local to me and has the complete line of dewalt/milwaukee/ryobi tools for sale with price list. No, those are just stolen |
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