Legalizing them now is ripping the band-aid off.  How many biden supporters will lose jobs or have to take pay cuts to compete with the new legal labor pool?

Even white collar jobs if they have any degree or experience (which can probably be forged easily).

How many people that voted for biden so their children could grow up in a more civilized society will want to teach those children spanish so they can communicate with their new neighbors and mandarin so they can get a career?

Either Trump's immigration policy is supported by a lot of people or it isn't. If it is, popular opinion will turn.  If it isn't, then this was only a matter of time anyway.

Oh, I think it'll get more primitive than that.

Hispanics as a group are not monolithic as Florida and Arizona showed in November.  That said this idea that Hispanics as a whole will save the republican party is a pipe dream pushed by the CoC and big biz Republicans.  It's bullshit and always has been.  


There are plenty of Americans that will do these jobs just not for the wages offered.  That issue may be fading however as I've noticed some of these crews are demanding extremely high costs for simple things like the one dude that wanted $90 to rake leaves.  He was driving a king ranch diesel and his crew was driving a crew cab diesel.  100k plus in trucks alone so someone is making money.

Please to explain the tearing of said "fabric"......If the current fabric was any more torn up it could be used as confetti at some BLM grand review.

Hispanic Central and South American culture is collectivist (socialist) in nature and tolerates corruption to a great degree.

I disagree. I don't think host hispanics want their children to grow up homosexual, transgendered or non-binary. I don't think that they want them to reject family and God. They aren't going to have apologize over anything that happened in the past, and they aren't going to care about slavery or reparations.

You'd be surprised. I hope. If not, then well, there's no hope at all unless someone goes Slobodan, and the party most like to do that is going to be doing that to you and me.

Dammit.........I just saw that the commies still have total control over your state government.

If these people were able to restore a country they would have done it rather than run away. South and Central America is a mess for many reasons, and the cultural ones will be brought with the immigrants.

You make a good point.

We were conned into buying the whole "diversity is our strength" bill of goods.
It's not. It's unnatural, and it weakens a society. Multiculturalism is a recipe for failure.

Imagine that you and three friends climb into a car with four working steering wheels.
You start the car and say, "Okay, let's go get something to eat."
What happens next... is multiculturalism.

If y'all want to sow discord on the Democrat side, find someone you know with a Hispanic last name and run them in a Democrat primary; especially if the district is held by a White/Black/Other democrat candidate. Don't waste money campaigning, they probably wont win but it will force the other side to waste money in what was likely an unopposed primary.

If it is a contested race it might force a runoff. That happened in Houston, two black candidates were forced into a run off because someone with a Hispanic name got 20% of the vote. There were legal consequences only because the name was fake.
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/12/11/Harris-County-indictments-Texas-House-races/

However there is always the chance they could win. In Corpus Christi a Hispanic California man won the Democrat primary against a White local guy probably based on his name only.
https://www.caller.com/story/news/2020/03/03/texas-27th-democrats-nominate-california-resident-face-michael-cloud/4948526002/

They will learn the hard way and we are way down that disastrous road as we speak.

Oh well, millions of us tried to warn them but were only ridiculed and called racists.  (And will still be.)

Yup, they WILL learn the hard way.

maybe they'll build Chinese military installations in VA.

Huh....I need to run for office in a democrat primary.

And 2nd and 3rd generation American-born Cubans are not nearly as reliably conservative as their parents/grandparents.

Kharn

Republica del Norte in full fucking swing

If we make America Mexico we can just ignore the government and the laws...no license, no insurance, no problem!

A little bribe here, a little bribe there...

My girlfriend is from el salvador, every male salvadorean in her family is a republican and pro trump. They think he is racist but all of the adult men I have spoken with are strongly aware of the demons of socialism and want absolutely nothing to do with it.

Goddamn this thread is chock full of criminal loving cucks. Illegals and most immigrants don’t give a fuck about america, freedom or the constitution. They are here to suckle at the teat of the great whore and when she has no more milk to give will gladly move on to the next one. A country without borders, that doesn’t enforce laws is going to be over run and taken over by barbarians

A quick Google search says the average IQ in El Salvador is 84. Generally speaking, allowing immigration from a country like that is going to be a bad idea.

Compare first and second generation Latin American immigrant's outcomes today to first and second generation Swedish immigrant's outcomes from 1920. Those Swedes owned farms and factories by the time they had been here 10 years.

If America turns into Mexico, I’m just going to move to a beach somewhere in Mexico.

Lol,  foreigner from (insert country here) is more american than Americans. Okay Xiden.

Took less than a year from first hispanic family moving onto my block as a child to me getting strong arm robbed of a starter jacket in the late 80's.  But at least he was catholic.  Dumb white me thought I could wear a LA Kings hockey jacket being that i was born in LA.  First girlfriend was a daughter of mexican immigrants too.

This is the plan

We lose with every sale, but we'll make it up in volume!

From what I remember in history class, Jews on the Lower East Side were out of the ghetto in one generation, two tops.

Do it, run for state office. Those fees are affordable, and it will cost the enemy more to actually run ads and campaign in a contested election.

https://ballotpedia.org/How_to_run_for_office_in_Texas

This.  Unfortunately our border situation in the past hasn’t included background checks.  I don’t mind people immigrating for a better life and to improve our country, but I want to know who they’re letting in.  It’s almost funny that both Parties and the USCoC are supporting slavery since illegals get paid less than minimum wage, and that should be hung around their necks every time they push for open borders.  We also don’t know how many in Congress are getting Cartel money to keep their avenues open.

And both, also including Bidet, are a disgrace to the Church.

In the past, first generation immigrants have been very hard workers.  Their children tend to become more low income Americans and often tend to take more advantage of the system.  It does not take much to go from hard workers to generational welfare.

Now I have no problems with hispanics - but the current waves of migration want to skip the hard working ethic all together.  Many are only coming her for the payouts.  They are from more socialist countries and do understand the problems of socialism - but Socialism is still working in America.  There is still other peoples money to take.  

Can you people please stop with the anecdotes and look at voting data. I'm sure we all know a really good guy but overall it doesn't matter. Even if you bring in a group that votes 49% for conservative (higher than any other demographic besides whites) that still means 51% of them are voting against you and you'll lose. I don't understand why this is so difficult to understand for some of you.

Yeah , they are not Catholic. Once you believe to can murder a baby in the mother’s womb you lose the right to call yourself a Catholic.

All the ones I know and have met that are undocumented are Biden supporters. So are most not all of the legal ones I know.

You are wrong on all of these.  

Their religion is not true belief, it is to socialize and be part of the community.  It is not based on belief.

The "cohesive family units" are full of abuse, both sexual and physical.

"Powerful work ethic"..........  this is the most laughable of all.  They are among the laziest, poor quality product, and unsafe workers as a group I have ever seen.

They're already turning on each other. As cheaper labor comes in, the established can't compete with them. Karma is a bitch.

Honduran migrant: President-elect Biden is "going to help all of us." pic.twitter.com/LkrVCsXcSb

The Hill  (@thehill) January 18, 2021

the guy in this video strikes me as more of a goldwater conservative

can't wait till we get to own tha libs

Maybe the OP welcomes these invaders

IF they put enough of them in Texas, national elections won't matter any more anyway.

Mexicans want the US to be just like Mexico, except for the pay.  I've watched entire parts of the city turn from typical middle class America, to Mini-Mexico, complete with bright green or yellow painted and dilapidated llanteras (tire shops) and carnicerías on every corner, the guy pushing around the taco cart, and dogs and chickens running around in the middle of a main intersection.    They're not coming here for the American dream. (Some do.  I've met them, and they reluctantly admit they're the black sheep of the family.)  They're coming to make as much money as humanly possible, send it home to support the rest of their family there, stack cash, move back home, and have kids while here to continue the cycle.  A lot of them are related to and directly or indirectly work for the cartels.  It's nothing new.

They're single issue voters.  "Will this guy let me stay and help more of my family come and be eligible for free shit during my stay?" "I'm voting for that person."  They don't care about gun laws.  They still have and shoot all the guns the rest of us don't want to get a felony for.  I've seen plenty of full auto Glocks and AR's out in the desert with people that I can assure you were not class 2/3 SOT dealers.  They don't give a shit about tax hikes because they don't pay taxes.  The don't have car insurance because that's expensive and they're not going to show up to court anyway, and if they do get picked up for a warrant, the DA will just let them out with $0 bond at 6am with another court date.  It's quite clever actually.  They're not stupid and they don't work for cheap.  I don't know where people get that idea.  They want $15-$20/hr, and they want it in cash at the end of the day whether working a roofing crew, painting, or driving the parking lot sweepers during the late night hours.

There's an entire economy that caters to the undocumented.  No ID apartment leases are easy to find. Need a car?  No credit?  No License?  No Problem!



With that being said, I have no animosity toward them at an individual level.  I've interacted with Hispanics all my life and befriended dozens but I'm not going to pretend that while they may be working to make their lives better, at the rate they do it and the way they go about it, that it doesn't make it substantially harder for the people who do have to play by the rules.

Good times.

Agreed....

IMO, the 11 Million they plan to import will not be brightest and/or ambitious ones

So immigrants should have to score an average of 15 points higher?

LOL. Learn more than one language maybe?  Even before America, people who knew multiple languages made shit tons of money and got laid.

Yea the criteria for immigration to every modern developed nation consists of higher standards than the average of its population. Immigration to a top tier nation is for recruiting talent.

Sounds like individualism to me.  What you're advocating is still collectivism to the max.

But IQ does not equate to ability or skillful labor.  Also, IQ fluctuates daily up to 30 points depending on stress and hormone levels.

Was responding to you questioning standards higher than the average of the population. I wouldn't use IQ for admission standards either. I do find it interesting that you responded originally by giving validity to IQ and then shifted the goal posts to writing off IQ as a useful measure. You don't seem to be participating in good faith.