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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:01:44 AM EDT
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For the non railroaders....
DP = Distributive power, the locomotive(s) in the middle or rear of a train. PSR = Precision scheduled railroading. A retarded scheme by top management who know nothing about railroading. Build longer trains to get rid of jobs and "save" money. Build them bigger than many sidings can acommodate and that telemetry between head end and rear end may not work......... |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:12:40 AM EDT
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It happens quite frequently. The long trains don’t help but a lot has to do with lack of maintenance.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:18:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It happens quite frequently. The long trains don’t help but a lot has to do with lack of maintenance ....another unfortunate symptom of PSR and the hunter harrison legacy........ |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:22:44 AM EDT
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Quoted: Are trains so long now that they are frequently losing comms with their DP's? Lately I have heard quite a bit of radio chatter about the DP not doing this or that. Symptom of PSR? Yes. Happens all the time, they're pushing 10,000 ft now, if the DP is at the end it'll loose com especially when there's a difference in grade, lots of curves, or obstruction like trees/tunnel. The RF chokes on the new GE units for 220/GPS/voice/EOT/DP are also trash, as are the antennas. They go bad quite frequently. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:25:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. Happens all the time, they're pushing 10,000 ft now, if the DP is at the end it'll loose com especially when there's a difference in grade, lots of curves, or obstruction like trees/tunnel. The RF chokes on the new GE units for 220/GPS/voice/EOT/DP are also trash, as are the antennas. They go bad quite frequently. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Are trains so long now that they are frequently losing comms with their DP's? Lately I have heard quite a bit of radio chatter about the DP not doing this or that. Symptom of PSR? Yes. Happens all the time, they're pushing 10,000 ft now, if the DP is at the end it'll loose com especially when there's a difference in grade, lots of curves, or obstruction like trees/tunnel. The RF chokes on the new GE units for 220/GPS/voice/EOT/DP are also trash, as are the antennas. They go bad quite frequently. 10,000' is small around here anymore. I heard one talking to another saying he was hanging out over two blocks, over 14,000'...... |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:26:33 AM EDT
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Yes, and when it fucks up it shuts down things for hours. They still continue to double up trains everyday and burn through more crews than they use to. Them dawg catches come out of a different budget tho
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:28:47 AM EDT
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We run 16k down here on southern transcon
Nothing over 8500’ fit on the fuel pads so it frogs everything up and the only thing that makes it is z trains And they are doubling some of those to |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:29:58 AM EDT
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Question, I know next to nothing about trains, but if it’s an RF issue, can’t they put a repeater in the middle of the train?
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:30:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 10,000' is small around here anymore. I heard one talking to another saying he was hanging out over two blocks, over 14,000'...... That's nuts. Thats like .3 hp/ton. Gotta love HH.  They'd never make legal tail end flow here with how cold it gets in the winter. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:34:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Question, I know next to nothing about trains, but if it’s an RF issue, can’t they put a repeater in the middle of the train? They could, but won't. It'd have to be in a railcar, and they get moved around so much it's just another thing to keep track of. Plus then it'd be a PITA to link the tail to the lead, now you'd have to stop in the middle and link the repeater as well. The more crap they try add around here, the more it breaks and causes problems. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:36:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They could, but won't. It'd have to be in a railcar, and they get moved around so much it's just another thing to keep track of. Plus then it'd be a PITA to link the tail to the lead, now you'd have to stop in the middle and link the repeater as well. The more crap they try add around here, the more it breaks and causes problems. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Question, I know next to nothing about trains, but if it’s an RF issue, can’t they put a repeater in the middle of the train? They could, but won't. It'd have to be in a railcar, and they get moved around so much it's just another thing to keep track of. Plus then it'd be a PITA to link the tail to the lead, now you'd have to stop in the middle and link the repeater as well. The more crap they try add around here, the more it breaks and causes problems. Sat comms between headend and DP would probably make more sense....... |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:43:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: probably make more sense....... Have you worked around here?  That's the last thing they want to do 
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Posted: 1/24/2021 1:46:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have you worked around here? That's the last thing they want to do Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: probably make more sense....... Have you worked around here? That's the last thing they want to do Ain't that the truth. We are truly screwed. The union is retarded, the company is retarded. We are living in the twilight zone. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 2:21:25 AM EDT
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Can’t spell stupid without UP! 15,000 ft trains around St Louis
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Posted: 1/24/2021 9:23:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can’t spell stupid without UP! 15,000 ft trains around St Louis Lol, truth! |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 9:50:22 PM EDT
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I left when they started DP-ing everything at CSX. They’ve had a lot of mishaps lately in the Cincinnati area, and I imagine system wide.
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Posted: 1/26/2021 7:43:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I left when they started DP-ing everything at CSX. They’ve had a lot of mishaps lately in the Cincinnati area, and I imagine system wide. I think there has been an uptick in incidents since they started all this. Derailments, broken knuckles, delays out the woo-hoo.......... |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 7:59:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I left when they started DP-ing everything at CSX. They’ve had a lot of mishaps lately in the Cincinnati area, and I imagine system wide. CSX had a derailment yesterday near Hagerstown, MD. They were pulling a very long train and a car split in halve, derailing about 20 cars behind it. Train length was over 16,000 ft, from reports. On the H Line. No injuries. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 8:03:08 PM EDT
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10,000ft trains have been around long before PSR was a buzzword.
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Posted: 1/26/2021 9:08:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 10,000ft trains have been around long before PSR was a buzzword. Not 16k train tho |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 9:10:57 PM EDT
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They had a 16k go on the ground around joe city Arizona Sunday on the southern transcon so shot fukked up like a soup sandwich out here right now. Wiped out both mains
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