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MS, USA
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Posted: 5/2/2023 9:44:48 PM EDT
Brothers. Been a Mason for almost 48 years. Began under the jurisdiction of the GL of Philippines while in Tokyo. Moved to Arkansas and moved through the chairs. PM of Marion 686. I have now moved to another state and find that the petition includes the following question “Do you believe in the resurrection of the body?” To which an affirmative answer is required for approval. What say all of you? I am told that the GM declared this to be a requirement almost 100 years ago.
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Posted: 5/3/2023 12:22:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: medicmandan]
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I have never heard of that requirement. I know some, like Sweden, require a Christian faith.
Care to share what state? |
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Posted: 5/3/2023 9:18:00 AM EDT
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Whatever state that is, I guess they don't allow Jews to join Masonry!
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Posted: 5/6/2023 9:35:11 AM EDT
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Not a question here in TX
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Posted: 5/10/2023 12:04:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AR15thur]
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https://msgrandlodge.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/petition_three_degrees.pdf
Definitely a question on the petition I don't see a form for transferring from state to state, but I'm probably missing it. Edit: would this be it? https://msgrandlodge.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/no5b.pdf If so it makes no mention of the requirement. If it were indeed made a hundred years ago, Lodges weren't quite as open back then religiously as its understood to be now. I can't quote the exact year offhand but it was surprisingly recent when the NMJ of the Scottish Rite began allowing Jewish men (and perhaps others, I'm not sure) to receive the 18th degree and up. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 5:40:49 PM EDT
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The first three questions? 👍
Number four? 🥴 |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 5/11/2023 9:55:17 AM EDT
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This is not a question on GA Petition for the Degrees. We do ask if the petitioner believes in the existence of a Supreme Being.
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Posted: 5/11/2023 11:07:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gwnga: This is not a question on GA Petition for the Degrees. We do ask if the petitioner believes in the existence of a Supreme Being. Since Masonry is NOT a religious organization, basically demanding that only Christians are allowed to join seems to be against the tenets of Masonry! I know that the allegories of Masonry are deeply related to building of the Temple and events in the early days of Christianity. |
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MS, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2023 6:19:20 PM EDT
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Not a good look for Mississippi
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MS, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2023 6:20:32 PM EDT
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That’s the key question.
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MS, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2023 6:22:07 PM EDT
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I sure agree with LenS
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Posted: 5/13/2023 2:11:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: medicmandan]
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Are you affiliating? That question is not on that form.
https://msgrandlodge.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/no5e.pdf The petition for degrees includes those questions but it is not stated they are disqualifiers. I would need to see GL Code to offer an opinion on that. https://msgrandlodge.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/petition_three_degrees.pdf |
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Posted: 5/13/2023 7:58:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By medicmandan: Are you affiliating? That question is not on that form. https://msgrandlodge.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/no5e.pdf The petition for degrees includes those questions but it is not stated they are disqualifiers. I would need to see GL Code to offer an opinion on that. https://msgrandlodge.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/petition_three_degrees.pdf I tend to avoid places when I feel that I would not be welcomed, and that series of questions definitely tells me that I wouldn't be welcomed! |
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Posted: 5/14/2023 9:28:47 PM EDT
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Everyone needs to remember there is no overriding Masonic entity. Every jurisdiction has their own rules and requirements. Each does what works for them. If their members want change there’s a means to do that. If not, that’s their choice.
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Posted: 5/14/2023 11:18:37 PM EDT
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I'm curious if that is a current petition (even though it's on their website).
I have been doing a lot of research on the relationship between Mormons and Utah Freemasonry. While there was an unofficial ban on their membership from the beginning of our G.L., it did not become official until 1925 and then was not added to the petition until 1927. The ban was removed in 1984 but the petition was not updated until 1986. Would be curious what the GSec or GM had to say. I don't know either of them or I would reach out. |
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