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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2017 6:03:23 PM EDT
Hello,
I am considering to enlist in Army, but I have a few questions that I would like answered before signing anything. I did speak to a local recruiter, but they are very pushy and I get the impression that they may not be 100% truthful. I did read the stickied forum with the referral thing. I PM'd a few of the users there, but I noticed they may no longer be active here. If anyone can point me to a recruiter, or someone that knows a thing or two about the OCS I would greatly appreciate it. Mods, I understand this may be the wrong subforum for this post. If so, please move where necessary. |
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Posted: 5/18/2017 6:17:35 PM EDT
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Do you already have a Bachelor's Degree?
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2017 7:27:48 PM EDT
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No, I do not. That is where I'm a little confused. I did see that a four year degree is required, but I also did read that there was an exception if you had a certain amount of units completed already.
I do have an AA degree, and well over 100 units from a university. Currently, finishing school is not a very feasible option for me. That's why I was hoping to see if I can speak to someone about my situation. |
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Posted: 5/18/2017 7:31:37 PM EDT
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The last I've heard is only the Guard will comission you w/o a degree.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2017 7:42:53 PM EDT
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There are recruiters for officers and different recruiters for enlisted. That might be part of your problem.
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Posted: 5/18/2017 8:06:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By waddlingweezol:
No, I do not. That is where I'm a little confused. I did see that a four year degree is required, but I also did read that there was an exception if you had a certain amount of units completed already. I do have an AA degree, and well over 100 units from a university. Currently, finishing school is not a very feasible option for me. That's why I was hoping to see if I can speak to someone about my situation. You may want to look into ROTC scholarship programs if those are available, or enlisting and using TA and other benefits to complete your college and then apply to OCS. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2017 8:50:39 PM EDT
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Ok thank you.
On a related note, an MOS that I have been very interested in is 31K. I know that this is not available for Officer, but I wanted to know how available is this MOS? Secondly, let me see if I understand this correctly. I can go take the ASVAB to see what MOS are available, but I do not have to sign anything right away correct? For example, is it possible to take all of the required tests and wait for 31K to open up? I'm sorry if this sounds stupid, I just want the real answers from someone honest. Thanks again |
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Posted: 5/18/2017 8:53:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By waddlingweezol:
Ok thank you. On a related note, an MOS that I have been very interested in is 31K. I know that this is not available for Officer, but I wanted to know how available is this MOS? Secondly, let me see if I understand this correctly. I can go take the ASVAB to see what MOS are available, but I do not have to sign anything right away correct? For example, is it possible to take all of the required tests and wait for 31K to open up? I'm sorry if this sounds stupid, I just want the real answers from someone honest. Thanks again |
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Posted: 5/18/2017 9:51:18 PM EDT
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Without a degree, you're ineligible for OCS (as far as I know).
You should be able to get an ROTC scholarship or at the very least College Program (you pay your own way but are still commissioned at the end). You'll need to be able to get into a 4 year school too. If that's what you're interested in, you should talk to an Officer Recruiter. |
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Posted: 5/18/2017 9:55:24 PM EDT
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Army Guard will ship to OCS with 90 college hours.
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Posted: 5/18/2017 10:00:52 PM EDT
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Something about your posting style makes me think you are probably grossly unqualified and the recruiters just don't really give a fuck. That's just a guess, could be wrong.
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Posted: 5/18/2017 10:07:34 PM EDT
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Way to be a dick. He'll have plenty of time to prove himself in OCS or ROTC.
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Posted: 5/18/2017 10:11:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher:
Way to be a dick. He'll have plenty of time to prove himself in OCS or ROTC. |
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Posted: 5/18/2017 10:12:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Desert_AIP:
Without a degree, you're ineligible for OCS (as far as I know). You should be able to get an ROTC scholarship or at the very least College Program (you pay your own way but are still commissioned at the end). You'll need to be able to get into a 4 year school too. If that's what you're interested in, you should talk to an Officer Recruiter. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2017 11:35:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: waddlingweezol]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FightingHellfish:
Something about your posting style makes me think you are probably grossly unqualified and the recruiters just don't really give a fuck. That's just a guess, could be wrong. The reason I said I don't trust the recruiter was because he said, "who cares what job you get, you're in the Army". He then said to come down the next day at 8 am sharp and sign up. He gave the impression of being a guy that needs x amount of spots filled up and could care less weather I'd sign up to push papers, scrub toilets, or be a pilot. It's a big commitment, and that's why I want to get real answers from someone that has nothing to gain based on whether I sign or not. I admit that I do not know a lot about this whole process, because it's something I recently started looking into. And I'm not offended by your comment, so no worries. Please don't sugar coat anything. |
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Posted: 5/18/2017 11:48:51 PM EDT
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He sounds like a Marine Corps recruiter masquerading in an Army uniform. He doesn't quite get the salesmanship part of the job. Poor bastard.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/19/2017 11:40:08 AM EDT
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76 on the ASVAB isn't bad and should get you into most of the E fields. Don't know about the O side.
60+ college hours should also get your E3 right out the gate. |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 12:00:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By waddlingweezol:
I did speak to a local recruiter, but they are very pushy and I get the impression that they may not be 100% truthful. If his lips are moving, He is lying. |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 12:22:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cobra-ak]
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See your nearest OSO of the branch of service you want, call him and make an appt.
Officer slots are very few historically and all volunteer, if you don't cut it at OCS, you go back home. You will be interviewed by probably a board of 3 officers formally and have to qualify physically and medically You will not incur an obligation until you graduate, you are not enlisting |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 2:19:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cobra-ak: See your nearest OSO of the branch of service you want, call him and make an appt.
Officer slots are very few historically and all volunteer, if you don't cut it at OCS, you go back home. You will be interviewed by probably a board of 3 officers formally and have to qualify physically and medically You will not incur an obligation until you graduate, you are not enlisting |
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Posted: 5/19/2017 3:53:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cobra-ak]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher:
I don't believe that is the case for the Army. You enlist as a 09S, go to OCS. If you don't make it, you change your MOS. I could be wrong, my experience is on the Guard side. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher:
Originally Posted By cobra-ak: See your nearest OSO of the branch of service you want, call him and make an appt.
Officer slots are very few historically and all volunteer, if you don't cut it at OCS, you go back home. You will be interviewed by probably a board of 3 officers formally and have to qualify physically and medically You will not incur an obligation until you graduate, you are not enlisting I know a kid that is desperate to get in, went thru all the selection, medical, physical, security, PFT and had to go thru 3 interview boards. He has done it twice and has not been selected. It is competitive It is not an automatic enlistment, you have to jump thru hoops. If it's 5 guys and they have slots for only 2 in an area, it means 3 will not be selected |
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USA
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Posted: 6/9/2017 4:30:42 PM EDT
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Run away from anyone who is not interested in helping you serve in the job(s) you want. Trust your instincts and find a different recruiter.
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Posted: 6/9/2017 8:21:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Overtorque:
Run away from anyone who is not interested in helping you serve in the job(s) you want. Trust your instincts and find a different recruiter. |
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Posted: 6/20/2017 4:33:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MarkHatfield:
There are recruiters for officers and different recruiters for enlisted. That might be part of your problem. |
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Posted: 6/20/2017 6:36:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mb121:
Unless there was a drastic turn since 2014, then there is no difference between a recruiter for OCS and regular enlisted. You speak to the same individuals that you would coming fresh off the street to join as a E1 fuzzy as you would a dude that wants to go WO Flight Program or OCS. Some are more versed in the information and details of the programs, but anytime that you speak of OCS it's a HIGHLY selective process with OCS boards only a few times per year. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mb121:
Originally Posted By MarkHatfield:
There are recruiters for officers and different recruiters for enlisted. That might be part of your problem. |
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Posted: 6/24/2017 3:14:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: amediocreshooter]
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I am going through the OCS process right now.
I am a former E5 in the USMC, zero moral issues at all, Bachelors in Finance 3.8 GPA. Masters in Finance 3.9 GPA. 127 GT score. Treasurer of a non profit. Currently working for a worldwide mutual fund company. LORs from a USN Captain, my former USMC Commanding Officer, and the mayor of my city of 350k people and I aced the PT test. My recruiter was still iffy if I'd get selected - it's that competitive. The Army gets almost everyone it needs from ROTC and the Academy. OCS guys need to be at the pinnacle to be considered. My recruiting battalions mission is 2 all year long and they meet that in the 1st Quarter. |
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Posted: 6/24/2017 3:19:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By amediocreshooter:
I am going through the OCS process right now. I am a former E5 in the USMC, zero moral issues at all, Bachelors in Finance 3.8 GPA. Masters in Finance 3.9 GPA. 127 GT score. Treasurer of a non profit. Currently working for a worldwide mutual fund company. LORs from a USN Captain, my former USMC Commanding Officer, and the mayor of my city of 350k people and I aced the PT test. My recruiter was still iffy if I'd get selected - it's that competitive. The Army gets almost everyone it needs from ROTC and the Academy. OCS guys need to be at the pinnacle to be considered. My recruiting battalions mission is 2 all year long and they meet that in the 1st Quarter. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/25/2017 7:28:14 PM EDT
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a few years ago a friend of mine graduated from TAMU, was in the corp & squared away
and tried several times to get a USMC officer job; ended up going enlisted (ostensibly to get into jarhead OCS) but is going to leave after his first hitch is up. apparently it's not a given for any but the Academy (which his brother has 1 year to finish) and the top ROTC guys |
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NE, USA
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Posted: 8/23/2017 12:09:59 AM EDT
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I graduated USMC OCS last summer and get commissioned in May when I graduate with a bachelors in civil engineering. I did the PLC program which allows you to be a normal college student and attend OCS in the summer. If you already have a bunch of college credits, you should think of finishing your degree. For the USMC, recruiting is different for officers and enlisted. I would look up who the OSO is for your school and get in contact with him. There is also the OCC program which allows you to go to OCS after you already have your degree.
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