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Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:39:19 AM EST
Can Trump turn around and request the DA’s tax and campaign contribution records?
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:40:06 AM EST
Sounds like something the irs does to everyone
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Originally Posted By juslearnin:
In my mind we have to ask if trump is an asset or a liability to the conservative cause.  Although I may agree with a lot of his policies and actions, deep down I think that like most politicians in Washington he is a self obsessed narcissist.  Does he care about himself or the country?  Is he willing to sacrifice the future of our nation on the altar of his own ego?  If he splits the Republican Party so they can't win an election for the next 8 years he is not doing us any favors.

If so, then they are actually doing us a favor by bringing him down.  Ironically it is like the NRA.  Everyone with eyes to see knows that lapierre has raped the organization for his own personal gain , but no one has been able to get rid of him.  If the government can do that for us then they are doing us a favor in the long run- short term pain for long term benefit.
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You have it backwards.

The Republicans are part of the swamp.  They, along with the Democrats, need eliminated as political parties, and we need to start over.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 7:51:12 AM EST
No one who runs a business could survive a vindictive audit. Not a chance.
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Originally Posted By juslearnin:
In my mind we have to ask if trump is an asset or a liability to the conservative cause.  Although I may agree with a lot of his policies and actions, deep down I think that like most politicians in Washington he is a self obsessed narcissist.  Does he care about himself or the country?  Is he willing to sacrifice the future of our nation on the altar of his own ego?  If he splits the Republican Party so they can’t win an election for the next 8 years he is not doing us any favors.

If so, then they are actually doing us a favor by bringing him down.  Ironically it is like the NRA.  Everyone with eyes to see knows that lapierre has raped the organization for his own personal gain , but no one has been able to get rid of him.  If the government can do that for us then they are doing us a favor in the long run- short term pain for long term benefit.
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It is the Republican Party that needs to be brought down and destroyed. The Trent Lotts, John Boehners, Paul Ryans, Mitch McConnell's, John McCains, Mitt Romneys and their ilk have lied to and deceived us too many times. They are the ones more interested in their own power than doing what’s right. As a small example, how many times did they beat their chests about doing away with Obamacare? We elect a President who waits with pen in hand to sign the bill and what did they do? They ran away like the spineless moral cowards they are. They owned the House, Senate, and Presidency and didn’t do jack shit to support the President. Early on in Trump’s term, Rush said if the Republicans would support Trump’s agenda America would prosper to a degree that would make the Democrats irrelevant for a generation. He was right. The democrats knew that as well, and considered him such a threat that they are still bent on his destruction.

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Originally Posted By RTX:
Rich guy becomes president and even works for free, so we must scrutinize everything about his finances again - even after he's out of office - just in case we can find something wrong. Meanwhile, slimy politicians still in office and their family members become rich from dealings made while in that office and nobody gives a shit.
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This right here...
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 8:00:05 AM EST
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Originally Posted By sjm1582002:
Since tax returns are no longer sacrosanct a politician's entire medical records should be made public as well.

I bet there are a good number of "legally prescribed" pharmacuetical drugs addicts (See Shanghai Joe and Fancy Pelosi) holding elected office.
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They'd print it on the same paper they put O's birth cert on.
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Originally Posted By bolster:


He didn’t take a paycheck for for years, but his family took in way more than those paychecks would have been by hosting all those events at his resorts.  Funneling millions of tax dollars to your family business is slimy, even if it isn’t currently illegal.
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Originally Posted By bolster:
Originally Posted By RTX:
Rich guy becomes president and even works for free, so we must scrutinize everything about his finances again - even after he's out of office - just in case we can find something wrong. Meanwhile, slimy politicians still in office and their family members become rich from dealings made while in that office and nobody gives a shit.


He didn’t take a paycheck for for years, but his family took in way more than those paychecks would have been by hosting all those events at his resorts.  Funneling millions of tax dollars to your family business is slimy, even if it isn’t currently illegal.

You'd think the people who have him living in their head for free would start charging rent.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 8:04:10 AM EST
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Originally Posted By bolster:

He didn’t take a paycheck for for years, but his family took in way more than those paychecks would have been by hosting all those events at his resorts.  Funneling millions of tax dollars to your family business is slimy, even if it isn’t currently illegal.
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Sorry your girl lost
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Originally Posted By AR15thur:

You'd think the people who have him living in their head for free would start charging rent.
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Thanks for letting me live rent free in yours.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 8:13:09 AM EST
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Originally Posted By BMCBreeder:

Could his lawyers prove a violation of equal protection?
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
NY passed a special law so the legislature could get at Trump's state income tax records

Could his lawyers prove a violation of equal protection?

Why, so SCOTUS could tell him he lacks standing?
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 8:13:40 AM EST
I guess I’m a little confused.  In New York is it common for property owners to set their own valuation?
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 8:15:09 AM EST
Yet the Clinton Foundation keeps laundering millions.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 8:26:26 AM EST
Too bad they don't put that kind of scrutiny on people like, oh I don't know....

Maxine Waters
The Pelosi family
Swallow-well
The Bidens

Funny how it seems to only focus on certain people of a specific political party.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 8:26:30 AM EST
Just the state of New York and New York city run amok with tyrants and the mafia.

They intend to prosecute in a star chamber. Nothing but an army will stop them.
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Originally Posted By juslearnin:
In my mind we have to ask if trump is an asset or a liability to the conservative cause.  Although I may agree with a lot of his policies and actions, deep down I think that like most politicians in Washington he is a self obsessed narcissist.  Does he care about himself or the country?  Is he willing to sacrifice the future of our nation on the altar of his own ego?  If he splits the Republican Party so they can’t win an election for the next 8 years he is not doing us any favors.

If so, then they are actually doing us a favor by bringing him down.  Ironically it is like the NRA.  Everyone with eyes to see knows that lapierre has raped the organization for his own personal gain , but no one has been able to get rid of him.  If the government can do that for us then they are doing us a favor in the long run- short term pain for long term benefit.
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After all we have witnessed over past 4+ years this is your concern?


Bud, the republic is lost.  The rule of law is lost.  If you place your trust in the republican party to save it you are further gone than the country.
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Originally Posted By lovetohunt:
They should do this to every member of Congress and past Presidents too.  What a shit show.
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Whats good for the goose if good for the Xiden.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 8:35:19 AM EST
The most surprising thing in this thread is the Pengie uses AT&T.
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Originally Posted By bolster:


Thanks for letting me live rent free in yours.
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Originally Posted By bolster:
Originally Posted By AR15thur:

You'd think the people who have him living in their head for free would start charging rent.


Thanks for letting me live rent free in yours.


I don’t know who you are or why you think my comment was directed at you. Might be kind of telling though

Seems pretty trollish and I think trying to start crap is a bannable offense.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 8:47:32 AM EST
Go ahead and charge him.

I can’t wait until he pulls out the stack of absolute pardons....

“Donald... Jr., Ivanka... Barron, Melanie, Pebbles, that’s my cat..., here it is... Donald John Trump.”
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Originally Posted By AR15thur:

You'd think the people who have him living in their head for free would start charging rent.
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Originally Posted By AR15thur:
Originally Posted By bolster:
Originally Posted By RTX:
Rich guy becomes president and even works for free, so we must scrutinize everything about his finances again - even after he's out of office - just in case we can find something wrong. Meanwhile, slimy politicians still in office and their family members become rich from dealings made while in that office and nobody gives a shit.


He didn’t take a paycheck for for years, but his family took in way more than those paychecks would have been by hosting all those events at his resorts.  Funneling millions of tax dollars to your family business is slimy, even if it isn’t currently illegal.

You'd think the people who have him living in their head for free would start charging rent.


Notice who quoted the other first in their reply.  Trying to troll is bannable and it began with you.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 9:04:46 AM EST
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Originally Posted By bolster:


Notice who quoted the other first in their reply.  Trying to troll is bannable and it began with you.
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Originally Posted By bolster:
Originally Posted By AR15thur:
Originally Posted By bolster:
Originally Posted By RTX:
Rich guy becomes president and even works for free, so we must scrutinize everything about his finances again - even after he's out of office - just in case we can find something wrong. Meanwhile, slimy politicians still in office and their family members become rich from dealings made while in that office and nobody gives a shit.


He didn’t take a paycheck for for years, but his family took in way more than those paychecks would have been by hosting all those events at his resorts.  Funneling millions of tax dollars to your family business is slimy, even if it isn’t currently illegal.

You'd think the people who have him living in their head for free would start charging rent.


Notice who quoted the other first in their reply.  Trying to troll is bannable and it began with you.

That was meant humorously and in general to people who can’t stop thinking about the man day and night day and night . I’ve got my opinions on why he used his own facilities and I think he was smart to do so, if only people who let him live “rent free” could find a way to make money in a similar fashion.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 9:10:31 AM EST
You know I have had a great deal of time to think , and based on the fact that both sides the Dems and establishment GOP have been totally hell bent on destroying Trump  leads me to believe he was doing the right things and they did not want their business being fucked up by a guy not from the swamp.


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Originally Posted By Sharpshooter:
You know I have had a great deal of time to think , and based on the fact that both sides the Dems and establishment GOP have been totally hell bent on destroying Trump  leads me to believe he was doing the right things and they did not want their business being fucked up by a guy not from the swamp.


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He got in the way of globalism and pedophilia
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There’s absolutely no downside for the state of NY.  If they can’t charge him with anything, then they’ll try him in the court of public opinion.
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Originally Posted By AR15thur:

That was meant humorously and in general to people who can’t stop thinking about the man day and night day and night . I’ve got my opinions on why he used his own facilities and I think he was smart to do so, if only people who let him live “rent free” could find a way to make money in a similar fashion.
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Originally Posted By AR15thur:
Originally Posted By bolster:
Originally Posted By AR15thur:
Originally Posted By bolster:
Originally Posted By RTX:
Rich guy becomes president and even works for free, so we must scrutinize everything about his finances again - even after he's out of office - just in case we can find something wrong. Meanwhile, slimy politicians still in office and their family members become rich from dealings made while in that office and nobody gives a shit.


He didn’t take a paycheck for for years, but his family took in way more than those paychecks would have been by hosting all those events at his resorts.  Funneling millions of tax dollars to your family business is slimy, even if it isn’t currently illegal.

You'd think the people who have him living in their head for free would start charging rent.


Notice who quoted the other first in their reply.  Trying to troll is bannable and it began with you.

That was meant humorously and in general to people who can’t stop thinking about the man day and night day and night . I’ve got my opinions on why he used his own facilities and I think he was smart to do so, if only people who let him live “rent free” could find a way to make money in a similar fashion.


If it was meant in humor, no foul.  Others said the same thing and I know it wasn’t meant in humor.  

If people here who like Trump would permit someone else to have a different opinion without attacking them, we could have a discussion.
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Originally Posted By Paul:

How is it only you know that his family skimmed money off the republican fundraisers for their business and the democrat media doesn't?

You'd think the democrats would find out about what you know and rape him in public for it.
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There were a ton of articles in the news months ago about it.  I am not the only one who has seen it.
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Originally Posted By ROCK6:


Everybody talks about Trump's ego, but nobody acknowledges what he sacrificed to serve as president.  He wasn't making millions off of backdoor deals with China or lobbyists like most politicians.  I don't think he ever kept a single paycheck and he rarely took a vacation.  He's had his life inspected by every bureaucracy and intel agency in the government as has his family members.  The media literally fabricated lies and repeatedly ran them on prime time news.  Some mistakenly call it ego, I see it as an incredible will and fortitude to be attacked every day for four years to serve the American people, uphold the Constitution and try to make meaningful changes in American lives and businesses without giving up and having very few allies.  Personality aside, we would be blessed to ever have another POTUS like Trump and that is exactly why the swamp is still going after him and attempting to send a message to anyone else willing to challenge the swamp culture of corruption.

Talk about ego...take a look at the Republican Party.  Your elitist rulers willing to compromise your liberties for their pockets and continued power.  I think you're off base on where to point the blame.  Trump was far from perfect, but he was likely the least corrupt POTUS in my 50+years.  I can't say that about the majority of GOP members in Congress.  The Republican Party needs to be attacked and if necessary split or destroyed to removed the cancerous traitor that infest it.  Either conservatives eliminate the status quo party, or they leverage Trump's momentum and become a new party.  There are no other options other than to accept the slow decline into socialist slavery with the current GOP.

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Well put.
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I didn't think such fishing expeditions were legal in America.

But Orange Man really bad so nothing else matters.
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I am beginning to think there is a SCOTUS decision out there that allows democrats to do anything they want.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 9:30:32 AM EST
If I were Trump I'd start building my own personal army.
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Well put.
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Originally Posted By ROCK6:


Everybody talks about Trump's ego, but nobody acknowledges what he sacrificed to serve as president.  He wasn't making millions off of backdoor deals with China or lobbyists like most politicians.  I don't think he ever kept a single paycheck and he rarely took a vacation.  He's had his life inspected by every bureaucracy and intel agency in the government as has his family members.  The media literally fabricated lies and repeatedly ran them on prime time news.  Some mistakenly call it ego, I see it as an incredible will and fortitude to be attacked every day for four years to serve the American people, uphold the Constitution and try to make meaningful changes in American lives and businesses without giving up and having very few allies.  Personality aside, we would be blessed to ever have another POTUS like Trump and that is exactly why the swamp is still going after him and attempting to send a message to anyone else willing to challenge the swamp culture of corruption.

Talk about ego...take a look at the Republican Party.  Your elitist rulers willing to compromise your liberties for their pockets and continued power.  I think you're off base on where to point the blame.  Trump was far from perfect, but he was likely the least corrupt POTUS in my 50+years.  I can't say that about the majority of GOP members in Congress.  The Republican Party needs to be attacked and if necessary split or destroyed to removed the cancerous traitor that infest it.  Either conservatives eliminate the status quo party, or they leverage Trump's momentum and become a new party.  There are no other options other than to accept the slow decline into socialist slavery with the current GOP.

ROCK6


Well put.

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Originally Posted By barnbwt:

Why, so SCOTUS could tell him he lacks standing?
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Originally Posted By barnbwt:
Originally Posted By BMCBreeder:
Originally Posted By Aimless:
NY passed a special law so the legislature could get at Trump's state income tax records

Could his lawyers prove a violation of equal protection?

Why, so SCOTUS could tell him he lacks standing?

And after they throw him in prison on made up crap, they can say it was moot.
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Originally Posted By WhatsGnu:

And after they throw him in prison on made up crap, they can say it was moot.
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Originally Posted By WhatsGnu:
Originally Posted By barnbwt:
Originally Posted By BMCBreeder:
Originally Posted By Aimless:
NY passed a special law so the legislature could get at Trump's state income tax records

Could his lawyers prove a violation of equal protection?

Why, so SCOTUS could tell him he lacks standing?

And after they throw him in prison on made up crap, they can say it was moot.

I wonder if they would also say his Secret Service detail is "moot" also when he gets to prison?

(Probably one of the most rhetorical questions I have ever asked.)
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Originally Posted By 556therapy:
They’ll find whatever they’re looking for whether it’s there or not.

I’ve never seen a president so scrutinized in my life. That must mean that what he was doing for America was righteous.
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Well others were willing to give up their tax returns voluntarily..There has to be some really bad stuff to be discovered if Trump is willing to fight this tooth and nail..It simply cannot just be a thing based on principle. Must be very damning to fight the release with that kind of vigor..Has to be guilty of something, to hide it this long. Even if we find he used "legal" loopholes to keep his money..That still angers me..I have to pay my share..He should also.

I am sure you could find the same damning stuff throughout Washington Politics..But they only wants Trumps of course..
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Originally Posted By carbineone1964:


Well others were willing to give up their tax returns voluntarily..There has to be some really bad stuff to be discovered if Trump is willing to fight this tooth and nail..It simply cannot just be a thing based on principle. Must be very damning to fight the release with that kind of vigor..Has to be guilty of something, to hide it this long. Even if we find he used "legal" loopholes to keep his money..That still angers me..I have to pay my share..He should also.

I am sure you could find the same damning stuff throughout Washington Politics..But they only wants Trumps of course..
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His annual tax returns are probably 3 feet thick.

Even dumbass Biden could find something wrong.

Well, maybe not dumbass Biden but you get the point.
Link Posted: 2/23/2021 10:35:11 AM EST
The MSM needs something to report on to hide Bidens lack of leadership. Notice how Biden hasn't had one open presser with the press. Trump had at least five within the first the month.
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All intended to make sure that anyone who may be like Trump thinks deeply before running for office.  This is what will happen to anyone who challenges the status quo.
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Yep
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87 minutes.
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Originally Posted By carbineone1964:


Well others were willing to give up their tax returns voluntarily..There has to be some really bad stuff to be discovered if Trump is willing to fight this tooth and nail..It simply cannot just be a thing based on principle. Must be very damning to fight the release with that kind of vigor..Has to be guilty of something, to hide it this long. Even if we find he used "legal" loopholes to keep his money..That still angers me..I have to pay my share..He should also.

I am sure you could find the same damning stuff throughout Washington Politics..But they only wants Trumps of course..
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Originally Posted By 556therapy:
They’ll find whatever they’re looking for whether it’s there or not.

I’ve never seen a president so scrutinized in my life. That must mean that what he was doing for America was righteous.


Well others were willing to give up their tax returns voluntarily..There has to be some really bad stuff to be discovered if Trump is willing to fight this tooth and nail..It simply cannot just be a thing based on principle. Must be very damning to fight the release with that kind of vigor..Has to be guilty of something, to hide it this long. Even if we find he used "legal" loopholes to keep his money..That still angers me..I have to pay my share..He should also.

I am sure you could find the same damning stuff throughout Washington Politics..But they only wants Trumps of course..

Why can’t it be based on principle?
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Guaranteed they will be leaked.


I spent half my career in commercial RE working directly for owners and they did not get to make up their own values for loans or Ins companies. Professional appraisers were hired by the banks and Ins companies to come in to determine values. So unless the banks and Ins companies ignored protocol because he was a favored client or the appraises were slipped an envelope to cook the books that would seem to place these issues squarely on others.

Who knows about the so called consulting fees. Be funny if there were charges for that given all of the politicians who funnel campaign money to their family members and friends. Can anyone say Omar, the American hating import from Somalia.
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It’s truly terrible, when you consider that the money being used to fund this, was stolen from the tax payers, some of whom are good people.
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