Specifically the gay frogs.

Is ok for a woman to accuse a guy of rape only to recant her story 5 years later after the guy has already spent 2 years in jail?

He should have left his comments focused on the government.

Instead he shit on completely innocent private people who had their 1st graders mowed down by a fucking whacko.

Being completely bankrupt is a light sentence for him. If I lost my kid and Alex Jones harassed my family over it, the poor house would be the least of his problems.

If you tell lies that cause people problems you are liable.  Alex jones did that.  Did he do 45 million dollars worth of harm?  I don't think so.  I'm not. Concerned with him facing consequences for his actions in a lawsuit.  I'm concerned that the amount he will lose is so disproportionate it could suppress free speech in fear of lawsuits.

Yep.

Imagine being the person who had to break the news that Nayirah was bullshitting people. I'd be afraid to break the news for fear of being wrong, and then sued by a bunch of pissed off nurses that really did witness babies being thrown from incubators.
Alex Jone's lawsuit is a major curtailing of Free Speech, Free thought.

The mainstream media gets away with waaaaaaay worse than what Alex Jones did. Alex Jones merely suggested the possibility the shooting a faked government operation.

People on this forum keep talking about "posting names and addresses" which Alex Jones never did. But the media absolutely fucking does do shit like this... and they get away with it all the time.

I swear I just heard Dick Cheney say this.

No.  But you know the path you're heading down.

You must have ventured into the other AJ thread full of NPC's.

Speech that causes harm to private people should be suppressed.

The First Amendment doesn't give you the right to shit on private people without consequence. Ask Alexander Hamilton.

Your post points out the unfairness. Everyone on TV lies. Everyone on the internet lies. Big gov demands you believe their lies and their lying liars who spread them, under threat of being called a name such as a XXX-denier or a Qtard, or even a raciss, but they punish you if you believe Alex's lies or if you're Alex they punish you for telling your lies (which were CLEARLY intended as entertainment for anyone with an IQ over 50). When they tell lies on MSNBC and that sends people out "hunting nazis" or whatever no one thinks of punishing Rachel Maddow with a $50M verdict.

And you fantasizing about a white man being fucked in the ass by a black guy in jail tells me every last thing I need to know about you.

Alex may be an asshole, but I think it is Bullshit,  how does the 1st Ammendment not protect him?

If lying can get you sued I want to sue every politician, and damn near every "news" reporter.

Don't be wearing skimpy outfits if you don't like the attention champ

You for real ordered a product from infowars and put it in your body?

I didn't know anyone did that.

There's this thing called defamation.  It's been around for a minute or two.  The 1st doesn't protect defamatory speech.

I remember when the leftists had this tattooed on their foreheads

In light of what happened, no one would ever dare to question someone like "Nurse Nayirah" ever again.

* A LOT* of horrible things we learn about governments or people... oftentimes start off with nothing more than someone suggesting the possibility of something being the case... then people looking deeper into it, and finding out either:

A. Theres nothing to it.
B. There is something to it.

Alex Jones, in fact, came to the first conclusion... and then spent considerable effort in telling people that there was nothing to it.

There was a time when suggesting that the Chinese government was murdering people in order to harvest their organs... was a fringe crackpot theory. I was an earlier believer in that "Conspiracy theory". Now... we know that China is the only country on earth, where you can schedule an organ transplant and it has the shortest wait times in the world. A Major NGO that deals with organ transplants has stated openly... that its impossible to accomplish either of those feats without people essentially being executed on demand ... just for their organs. Pair that with the fact that we know many many Uighurs dissappear and are never heard from again... and the fact that they're they *ONLY* Ethnic group that is required to submit to government mandated "health screenings"...

We have irrefutable evidence now. But there was a time when such accusations were mostly based off of mere suspicions and rumors.

By quashing and crushing people when they're *WRONG* about something, it chills free speech about things that perhaps might be true. This allows real crimes and real horrors cover... because investigators might be too afraid to suggest anything until they have more solid evidence.

Now some might say "Good! Don't say anything until you have solid 100% proof!" Problem is, this then means we have less discussion about issues which might bring out more evidence in the proceedings of such discussion.
*I* might have some information about something, but might not have enough evidence to really feel "justified" to talk about it... but if I did anyway, perhaps someone else might be emboldened and come out and provide their tidbit of information, and then others do the same. Eventually what started off with something that had nothing but "suspicions and a couple weird details here and there", becomes a more solid picture.

By crushing someone for merely entertaining the possibility of something being the case, it quashes conversations that need to happen... conversations that might reveal something.

Its OK For you to skirt the CoC... but you'll report anyone who does the same with you...

Theres a word for people like that in normal society.
How does it feel to know the rules don't apply to you?

Must feel great.

Saying dumb shit on the internet isn't the same as harassing someone. The idiots who reached out to those victims' families? THEY harassed someone. Alex Jones sold advertising. If we're seriously going to hold independent businessmen responsible for the actions of gullible listeners then we might as well just get it over with and put a fucking diaper on every man, woman and child in this country and just say everyone is infantilized and no one (except Alex Jones apparently) is responsible for their own actions anymore.

I haven’t reported anything.  Just giving you a friendly reminder.

A very selectively enforced law, that has been weaponized against anyone who opposes the Cathedral.

No.  They really are turning the frogs gay!!

Yeah sure. Thanks for reminding us all that you're part of the "protected class" on this forum.

First they came for Alex. I did not speak up ….

So who's holding Fauci/Pelosi/Biden responsible for the lies they told when they told you that taking their vaccine would prevent your from getting covid? Are we holding Obama responsible for saying that if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor? How about the CBO, are we going to hold them responsible for incorrectly scoring bills and saying that they're cost neutral when everyone in the world knows they're going to cost us TRILLIONS? Shall I go on?

I don't know if it just makes you people feel better to sit here and make excuses for your enemies fucking you over again and again because it relieves you of the burden of fighting for yourselves but to me it reeks of cowardice.

The difference is the platform and profits.

Alex Jones used his popular platform to push a narrative which he knows was completely false. He even said so himself during court and during his apology video. He profited off the suffering of other people, he spread lies and falsehoods about private individuals to an audience he knows is likely to believe him, and he made accusations about private people he knew to be false without regard to the damages those lies may cause other people.

CNN did it to Rittenhouse, and we cheer a lawsuit because fuck CNN. Nick Sandmann settled with NBC over lies, and we cheer because fuck NBC.

This is no different than those other cases. Private people targeted by the media, and yes Alex Jones is considered part of "the media" in every sense of the word, is wrong and deserves the fullest punishment possible. The same rules we want to apply to CNN and NBC also apply to Infowars.

So the people who made War of the Worlds should've been sued out of existence? People tell lies that cause harm every FUCKING DAY (remember Colin Powell and his lies to get the Iraq War started?) and some of them get awards for it, yet you're fine with ONE GUY who just HAPPENS to be a political enemy of the state being punished for his lies (it's EN TER TAIN MENT! It isn't meant to be believed) and you're going to bless off on it? I'm going to screenshot your post and bring it up later when you're all salty about someone YOU LIKE being suppressed, maybe then you'll see why this verdict matters as far as precedent is concerned.

The fact that SOME of the outlandish things he has said over the years turned out to be true and right, is down right scary. The fact that he gets as much traction as he does, AND that some of what he says MIGHT be true. Shows the real structural problems we have in our country. He is more a sign or a symptom of a MUCH larger problem. It would be better to make him look the fool he is, than it would be to crush him, that's how he gains credibility, and makes MORE people talk about what happened to him. Crushing free speech is not how you stop or solve the problem.

Screen shot all you want. I believe in principle, not worship of idols.

The precedent here is a semi-popular media hack who plays the part of a fictional character to sell vitamin supplements can't use their power and influence to harass private individuals without consequence. I'm perfectly okay with that.

I've honestly never listened to the guy - ever.

EXACTLY! Just because someone can't prove their theory within 90 seconds of first positing their theory doesn't mean we should shut their mouths of hit them with a $50M lawsuit. Prosecutors get months (if not years) to investigate and assemble their cases because we recognize that investigating shit that other people would rather not have you investigate takes more than a few days or a few weeks. Anyone should be able to say anything they want. If it causes idiots to do harmful acts to other people (revolutionary idea coming up in 3...2...1) PUNISH THE PEOPLE WHO DO HARMFUL ACTS TO OTHER PEOPLE, NOT THE PEOPLE WHOSE SHOWS THEY WATCH!

Sticks and stones
May break my bones
But words will never hurt me

Well unless I can make some money off a lawsuit

You should worry about yourself.

Alex isn't going anywhere. He'll end up paying 4 or 5 million with the payout caps in TX.  
Even if he was stripped naked and living on the street someone would film him daily bullhorning out of his carboard box and stream it live.

What was the defamation?

"Alex Jones used his popular platform to push a narrative which he knows was completely false. "

Under this logic, every mainstream media outlet should be shut down and sued of of existence immediately since the precedent has been set.

Neat principles, some guy says something, some nutcases do something and now the guy who said something is responsible for the actions of people he's never even met.

I believe in being responsible for your own shit and not blaming your stupid actions on other people you saw on TV. I believe in punishing the guilty for their crimes, not the guy who the guilty guy listens to on the way to work.

This place is full of cowardice.

That man is a national treasure.

Never really heard what he said about sandy hook and alex has been known to fly off the handle but this should be a free country.

Millions of dollars for emotional loss due to some crazy tall show host is bullshit.

Okay, at least this guy gets it.

Thats different. Those are your rulers. They're allowed to lie to you.
If they want to lie to you to get you to sacrifice your sons and daughters to a war started over a lie... that's their right!
But don't you *DARE* ever even suggest the government would ever do a false flag... nevermind the track record.

Never again will someone like Nayirah be questioned... for fear of being wrong and then ruined financially.

those who schadenfreude Jones need to be noted

Better start your list then.

Im not even sure that's proven.

Alex Jones believed it was a possibility at the time, and merely suggested it might be possible. He later retracted it.

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the flair fits

I like Alex Jones. I always find his show entertaining the times I've listened to it

Glad? No.

Apathetic? Yes.


Your note taking, is noted*


*as being fucking weird that you’ve needed to mention you are doing it in multiple threads.

I forgot, it's not my place to sit here and make proclamations about what I think freedom and liberty is, it's my place to sit here in front of my TV and to agree with the pretty people on TV who tell me what to thing.

"This Alex Jones, he very bad man. He say mean thing, the people, they no can tell difference so they go do mean thing to sad man. It ALex Jones fault! Alex Jones BAD MAN, make him a pay a lots of money to sad man and sad man lawyer. Mostly to sad man lawyer. I know is true for it was on TV and the internet, I no have a to think for self, no have a to be mad"

That's why this whole thing is being so publicized. The Implications are obvious.

Never mind, same team

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