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Posted: 10/2/2023 10:03:08 PM EST
There's two scenarios why trump lost.  Most of you who support him thing the vote was rigged. If it was then it will be just as rigged in 2024 and he has no chance.  There is no way in hell has has gained supporters much less enough to overcome whatever fraud you think is happening.  

Second scenario.  Trump lost because he's a giant cunt and people don't like him.   That's my belief but that's irrelevant here.  

If either scenario is correct trump will lose 2024. There is no reason to vote for him.  

Now imagine if scenario number two is correct and you are wrong.   Perhaps you just got caught up in the dopamine rush of crying liberals and just can't see how trump disgusts average people and motivates more democrats to vote because they believe he's hitler. Why not vote for someone else in the primary?  Why not put up desantis?  

If you really believe it's rigged it doesn't matter who you vote for.  Desantis will lose the same as trump will lose because it's rigged.  But if you are wrong maybe we win some swing states and the democrats lose.  Maybe we replace two more scotus judges and keep our rights for another generation

If you believe it's rigged why not just vote for desantis in case you are wrong? Also why the fuck would trump run again if he believed it was rigged?  Nothing has changed.  Early voting and mail in ballots are still happening .  Do any of you really believe he's gained millions of new supporters at this point?

Someone explain to me his path to winning swing states.
PWS
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:05:18 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:06:28 PM EST
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The reason to vote for Trump is when it is Trump v Hillary of Trump v Biden, what the fuck other choice is there?

Now in the primary, of course not.
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:06:32 PM EST
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How is it a troll to ask such a simple question.  If it's rigged trump loses.  If it's not trump loses but someone else can win.  Is it trolling to ask some people to use critical thinking here?
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:06:50 PM EST
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Same thread different day. If you want to vote for biden then DO IT!
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:06:53 PM EST
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#1 reason.

If they win at overthrowing what the American voters wanted after all of their corruption to stop it, then we are fucked.

It has to be Trump and he needs record voting.  He'll get it

Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:07:20 PM EST
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The reason to vote for Trump is when it is Trump v Hillary of Trump v Biden, what the fuck other choice is there?

Now in the primary, of course not.
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Yeah I get that.  But in the primary why on earth would you vote for trump if you know he'll lose whether there's fraud or not?
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:07:52 PM EST
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There is no reason to vote for him.  
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Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:08:04 PM EST
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Last I recall YOU vote third party?
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:08:59 PM EST
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Trump is our favorite Democrat.

He's been a registered Democrat longer than he's been a Republican.
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:09:32 PM EST
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If he’s the nominee then any other option than voting for him is a direct vote for the leftists.


But muh principles…….
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:09:59 PM EST
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Do u even pwn libs, bro?
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:10:59 PM EST
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Because Trump has a white hot rage to kick the swamp in the teeth, and DeSantis doesn't. And right now we are well behind, with seconds left on the clock, and need to go all in on our last best hope.
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:11:07 PM EST
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Please explain the logic of voting for candidate X?
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:11:13 PM EST
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You have bad memory. I voted for the orange turd twice.  Optimistic the first time and holding my nose the second time.  I think at this point the faster we can get rid of this idiot the less damage he will do to future elections
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:12:10 PM EST
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How is it a troll to ask such a simple question.  If it's rigged trump loses.  If it's not trump loses but someone else can win.  Is it trolling to ask some people to use critical thinking here?
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How is it a troll to ask such a simple question.  If it's rigged trump loses.  If it's not trump loses but someone else can win.  Is it trolling to ask some people to use critical thinking here?

Other people have pointed out the fact that you are a troll? I have taken note, and I tend to believe them.
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:12:19 PM EST
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They’ll elect him because you hate him. Marion Barry…
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:12:40 PM EST
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The FIRST problem here is that far too many people can't make the distinction between the Primary and the General, much less the idea of "your vote doesn't matter" states like CA and WA, vs actual battleground states.
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:13:16 PM EST
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lol




Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:13:35 PM EST
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His girl lost.
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:15:23 PM EST
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Because Trump has a white hot rage to kick the swamp in the teeth, and DeSantis doesn't. And right now we are well behind, with seconds left on the clock, and need to go all in on our last best hope.
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Okay but if it's rigged he can't win.  Do you believe it's rigged?  Or do you believe he just lost because people don't like him and he isn't an effective leader?  

If you think it's rigged your only hope is that you are wrong and you should try to vote for someone else who people don't hate as much.
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:15:47 PM EST
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Trump IS a giant cunt.  But he's OUR giant cunt.

If you have even the slightest belief in polling, then he's so far out in front of every other Republican candidate that it makes no sense voting for one of them.  I mean, sure - vote your conscience in the primaries.  Barring unfortunate accidents, it's a certainty near enough to 100% as to not allow any doubt that Trump will be the 2024 candidate.  

And again, if you DO believe in polling, then Trump beats Biden handily.  It doesn't matter what you think of Trump personally.  All that matters is getting the Biden machine out of power.  

And yes, the fix will undoubtedly be in.  Without detailing the many ways that the 2020 election was rigged, the simple fact is that it WAS rigged.  Maybe Biden would have gotten enough ballots without the cheating to win honestly.  Maybe, though, without all the cheating, Trump would be in the White House tonight.  We, the People have absolutely no way to know who would have won an honest election in 2020 because all honesty has been thrown out the window.  Allegations of wrongdoing either were never investigated, were investigated in such a slapdash manner as to be ludicrous, or were investigated, those investigations were presented to prosecutors for prosecution, and while some cheaters have been caught and punished, the vast majority have not.

The main reason for voting for Trump in the general, is because who else are you going to vote for?  Biden?  You actually WANT more of this shit that were in?  Kennedy?  He's merely socialist-adjacent.  The only "conservative" thing about him is his opinion on Covid and the jab.  

It's a long shot, but it's just barely possible that if enough people vote for Trump, then the cheating will have to be so open and blatant that maybe a few million Americans will decide that they've had enough of Uniparty rule.  What happens then?  I guess we'll just have to wait and see.  But without a vote for Trump, we never will see.
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:16:22 PM EST
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How is it a troll to ask such a simple question.  If it's rigged trump loses.  If it's not trump loses but someone else can win.  Is it trolling to ask some people to use critical thinking here?
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How is it a troll to ask such a simple question.  If it's rigged trump loses.  If it's not trump loses but someone else can win.  Is it trolling to ask some people to use critical thinking here?

You're in GD.  Did you really expect a well thought-out response?

Shit, you'll probably even be called a Russian shill, even though this thread has nothing to do with that.
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:16:35 PM EST
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He doesn't want to kill you
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:17:20 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:17:39 PM EST
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Okay but if it's rigged he can't win.  Do you believe it's rigged?  Or do you believe he just lost because people don't like him and he isn't an effective leader?  

If you think it's rigged your only hope is that you are wrong and you should try to vote for someone else who people don't hate as much.
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Everyone else just blows.  Like not even worth the printer cartridges for the ballots.
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:17:57 PM EST
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Other people have pointed out the fact that you are a troll? I have taken note, and I tend to believe them.
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How is it a troll to ask such a simple question.  If it's rigged trump loses.  If it's not trump loses but someone else can win.  Is it trolling to ask some people to use critical thinking here?

Other people have pointed out the fact that you are a troll? I have taken note, and I tend to believe them.

Yeah I'm against the drug war and abortion laws and the military industrial complex.   Which makes me a commie troll by some people's standards I guess.
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:18:03 PM EST
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You have bad memory. I voted for the orange turd twice.  Optimistic the first time and holding my nose the second time.  I think at this point the faster we can get rid of this idiot the less damage he will do to future elections
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Last I recall YOU vote third party?
You have bad memory. I voted for the orange turd twice.  Optimistic the first time and holding my nose the second time.  I think at this point the faster we can get rid of this idiot the less damage he will do to future elections



Ironically he's the only outsider candidate that has ever beat the establishment uniparty for the WH in modern history, you'd think a member of a hopless third party would appreciate that.

Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:19:34 PM EST
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Sorry about Hillary, she's not coming back.
You can cry some, it's okay.
Get a stuffy.
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:19:41 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:20:49 PM EST
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Everyone else just blows.  Like not even worth the printer cartridges for the ballots.
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Desantis isn't performing well in campaigning but he did a pretty fuckin solid job as an executive in Florida.  Florida got more red while trump lost and kept losing. Maybe trumps a great troll while desantis is an effective leader and executive?
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:21:09 PM EST
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It is a perfectly legitimate question. Which incredibly, Trump supporters never seem to be able to answer.
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:21:12 PM EST
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I'm voting Trump in the primary because the NeverTrump/DeSantis folks annoy the hell out of me.

Also I think DeSantis is a backstabbing opportunistic snake.

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Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:26:43 PM EST
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Because we are Americans and fuck the swamp and fuck that left.
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:28:32 PM EST
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It is a perfectly legitimate question. Which incredibly, Trump supporters never seem to be able to answer.
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It is a perfectly legitimate question. Which incredibly, Trump supporters never seem to be able to answer.

Bullshit.  I just wrote five paragraphs. Stop lying again.
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:30:30 PM EST
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There has been some progress on de-rigging the elections, but more needs to be done before the 2024 election.  One example: https://will-law.org/wisconsin-supreme-court-holds-absentee-ballot-drop-boxes-unlawful/
WILL challenged WEC guidance in lawsuit filed in June 2021

The News: The Wisconsin Supreme Court held that absentee ballot drop boxes, used widely in the 2020 election, have no statutory authorization and Wisconsin Elections Commission (WEC) guidance encouraging their use was unlawful. The Wisconsin Institute for Law & Liberty (WILL) filed the lawsuit on behalf of two Wisconsin voters in June 2021 challenging the legal status of absentee ballot drop boxes after WEC issued guidance in 2020 contrary to state law.

The majority decision, authored by Justice Rebecca Bradley, said, “Only the legislature may permit absentee voting via ballot drop boxes. WEC cannot. Ballot drop boxes appear nowhere in the detailed statutory system for absentee voting. WEC’s authorization of ballot drop boxes was unlawful…”
Hopefully the people in WI will be vigilant on the legislative front.

Second scenario.  Trump lost because he's a giant cunt and people don't like him.   That's my belief but that's irrelevant here.
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Every time they attack Trump unfairly, his popularity increases.  Since his BS arrest, he has gained a lot of street cred with voters that have not been a large part of his political base.  Also, there's a natural tendency to root for the underdog.
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:30:51 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:35:11 PM EST
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Trump IS a giant cunt.  But he's OUR giant cunt.

If you have even the slightest belief in polling, then he's so far out in front of every other Republican candidate that it makes no sense voting for one of them.  I mean, sure - vote your conscience in the primaries.  Barring unfortunate accidents, it's a certainty near enough to 100% as to not allow any doubt that Trump will be the 2024 candidate.  

And again, if you DO believe in polling, then Trump beats Biden handily.  It doesn't matter what you think of Trump personally.  All that matters is getting the Biden machine out of power.  

And yes, the fix will undoubtedly be in.  Without detailing the many ways that the 2020 election was rigged, the simple fact is that it WAS rigged.  Maybe Biden would have gotten enough ballots without the cheating to win honestly.  Maybe, though, without all the cheating, Trump would be in the White House tonight.  We, the People have absolutely no way to know who would have won an honest election in 2020 because all honesty has been thrown out the window.  Allegations of wrongdoing either were never investigated, were investigated in such a slapdash manner as to be ludicrous, or were investigated, those investigations were presented to prosecutors for prosecution, and while some cheaters have been caught and punished, the vast majority have not.

The main reason for voting for Trump in the general, is because who else are you going to vote for?  Biden?  You actually WANT more of this shit that were in?  Kennedy?  He's merely socialist-adjacent.  The only "conservative" thing about him is his opinion on Covid and the jab.  

It's a long shot, but it's just barely possible that if enough people vote for Trump, then the cheating will have to be so open and blatant that maybe a few million Americans will decide that they've had enough of Uniparty rule.  What happens then?  I guess we'll just have to wait and see.  But without a vote for Trump, we never will see.
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I don't believe he lost to fraud.  I believe the democrats put all their efforts into getting every single anti trump vote on the table.  Sure governors use bullshit emergency powers to allow democrats to do that.  All the lazy ducks in states that didn't have mail in voting already could now vote and those votes went blue.  

The reason I believe those votes were legit even if the means to get them was shenanigans is Arizona ballots. We have had mail in voting forever.  Democrats haven't been winning here and they didn't take control of the state legislature.  They just tossed trump. Then just as expected they voted against the Republicans who wanted to ban first trimester abortions here.  That isn't a surprise to anyone who pays attention here.    If the ballots were rigged why would they only rig it against certain Republicans while letting the GOP keep control of the legislature?  

Point being, mail in ballots and early voting aren't going away.  The gop should be adjusting the platform and the voter outreach strategy.  The democrats are and they are quite open about it while half the GOP is pushing for unpopular candidates and policy.  Victory in the future is embracing populism if more people are voting then trying to push the Overton window right while you have power.  Can't do shit if you can't win
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:35:54 PM EST
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It will be different this time... because reasons.  
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:36:06 PM EST
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Trump: lowest gas prices, lowest inflation, lowest unemployment,  kept Russia out of Ukraine.

If you don't mind how things are now you can give me $1K a month to offset what it costs now than what it did under Trump.

Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:37:15 PM EST
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There has been some progress on de-rigging the elections, but more needs to be done before the 2024 election.  One example: https://will-law.org/wisconsin-supreme-court-holds-absentee-ballot-drop-boxes-unlawful/
WILL challenged WEC guidance in lawsuit filed in June 2021

The News: The Wisconsin Supreme Court held that absentee ballot drop boxes, used widely in the 2020 election, have no statutory authorization and Wisconsin Elections Commission (WEC) guidance encouraging their use was unlawful. The Wisconsin Institute for Law & Liberty (WILL) filed the lawsuit on behalf of two Wisconsin voters in June 2021 challenging the legal status of absentee ballot drop boxes after WEC issued guidance in 2020 contrary to state law.

The majority decision, authored by Justice Rebecca Bradley, said, "Only the legislature may permit absentee voting via ballot drop boxes. WEC cannot. Ballot drop boxes appear nowhere in the detailed statutory system for absentee voting. WEC's authorization of ballot drop boxes was unlawful "
Hopefully the people in WI will be vigilant on the legislative front.

Every time they attack Trump unfairly, his popularity increases.  Since his BS arrest, he has gained a lot of street cred with voters that have not been a large part of his political base.  Also, there's a natural tendency to root for the underdog.
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I hate yet to meet a person who didn't vote for trump who intends to do so in the future because the Democrats aren't playing fair.

The only reason this shit worked against trump is because people want to believe it because they hate him.
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:37:51 PM EST
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'Revolution': Tucker Carlson interviews Victor Davis Hanson
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:40:21 PM EST
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Trump: lowest gas prices, lowest inflation, lowest unemployment,  kept Russia out of Ukraine.

If you don't mind how things are now you can give me $1K a month to offset what it costs now than what it did under Trump.

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Most of the inflation today was signed by trump to pay trillions of dollars to rich people and a couple thousand bucks to the peasants in order to shut down the economy and sell experimental drugs.    

Perhaps running someone who isn't just as responsible as Biden for this shit is a better idea?
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:42:27 PM EST
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Have any of you even considered the reason the left keeps attacking trump is they KNOW you guys will dig your heels in and vote for him in the primary because of it and trump is probably the easiest person for potato to beat at this point?
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:43:50 PM EST
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Maybe four years later people see Biden as a bigger cunt.

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People voted for him because they are tired of the status quo...to send a message..message received...they responded. Here we are today....Ballot box failed...maybe time for the next box...unfortunately that will not have the end result we would hope for.
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:45:41 PM EST
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I miss mean tweets
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I love mean tweets. Turns out that doesn't really translate into legislation and a second term though.  We are lucky as fuck some scotus seats came.up when they did. We'd be fucked if those justices stuck around till 2021
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Have any of you even considered the reason the left keeps attacking trump is they KNOW you guys will dig your heels in and vote for him in the primary because of it and trump is probably the easiest person for potato to beat at this point?
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Have you considered, it's possible, you're wrong also?
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Most of the inflation today was signed by trump to pay trillions of dollars to rich people and a couple thousand bucks to the peasants in order to shut down the economy and sell experimental drugs.    

Perhaps running someone who isn't just as responsible as Biden for this shit is a better idea?
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Biden has had years to undo Trump's damage. Oh wait. You're wrong
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