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Posted: 5/11/2022 9:10:59 PM EDT
https://www.19fortyfive.com/2022/05/what-it-felt-like-i-took-the-f-16-fighter-to-nearly-mach-2-0/

I was at 25,000 feet when I pushed the throttle forward, rotated it past the detent, and engaged full afterburner—

As I maintained my altitude, the jet started to accelerate. At 1.4 Mach, with only about 2 minutes of fuel left, I bunted over and started a dive to help with the acceleration. In my heads-up-display, 1.5 Mach ticked by, backed up by an old Mach indicator slowly spinning in my instrument console.

At 1.6 Mach, the jet started to shake. I was expecting it—the F-16 has a flight region around that airspeed that causes the wings to flutter. Still, this jet had a lot of hours on the airframe, and if anything were to fail, the breakup would be catastrophic. Similarly, ejecting at that speed would be well outside the design envelop—the air resistance at Mach 1.6 is about 300 times what a car experiences at highway speeds. A few pilots have tried, only to break nearly every bone in their body.

So now, the option was to slow down until the vibration stopped, or push through until it smoothed out on the other side. I was running low on fuel, so I elected to increase my dive so I could accelerate faster. Slowly 1.7 Mach ticked by, next 1.8, and then at 1.9, everything smoothed out. I was now traveling 1,500 mph over the Yellow Sea. The cockpit started feeling warm so I took my hand off the throttle and put it about a foot away from the canopy and could feel the heat radiating through my glove, similar to sticking your hand in an oven.
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:12:58 PM EDT
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1.39 in a F-18D here
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:14:54 PM EDT
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Impressive, Most Impressive.
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:17:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FlyNavy75:
1.39 in a F-18D here
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0.202 in the O-2A
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:18:31 PM EDT
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Solid.

In before Mach and 2.5
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:18:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FlyNavy75:
1.39 in a F-18D here
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Respect!
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:19:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By azjeeper:

Respect!
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I’m scared of snakes though
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:20:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FlyNavy75:

I’m scared of snakes though
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Originally Posted By FlyNavy75:
Originally Posted By azjeeper:

Respect!

I’m scared of snakes though

 
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:20:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ellenripley] [#8]
.78 in a 737 here (economy)
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:22:17 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:23:04 PM EDT
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I bet that was a fucking awesome ride.
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:24:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TripleC:
I bet that was a fucking awesome ride.
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.9 at 200’ is much more exciting than 1.0+ at 25k
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:24:19 PM EDT
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I wonder how fast my father had been in an F-4 Phantom II....
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:24:31 PM EDT
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I think there's some F15 drivers in here that have probably gone faster. Maybe they can tell us what it was like.
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:24:51 PM EDT
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I wonder how fast my father had been in an F-4 Phantom II....
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At least 2.0 I bet
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:25:15 PM EDT
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That's pretty fast for an F-16.
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:26:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jordanmills:
That's pretty fast for an F-16.
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It’s fast for any fighter. The published numbers on all the fighters are mostly bullshit. Mig-25 is different though.
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:28:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FlyNavy75:

It’s fast for any fighter. The published numbers on all the fighters are mostly bullshit. Mig-25 is different though.
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Originally Posted By FlyNavy75:
Originally Posted By jordanmills:
That's pretty fast for an F-16.

It’s fast for any fighter. The published numbers on all the fighters are mostly bullshit. Mig-25 is different though.

3+?
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:28:23 PM EDT
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I went 159 in a Viper on the back strait at Sebring like 20 years ago. Different kinda Viper though.
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:29:34 PM EDT
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Mach 87 on my Harley
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:29:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By azjeeper:

3+?
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Honestly I’m not sure but 2.5 I’d say is a good guess. It depends on environmentals, configurations, Pilot nut sack, etc.

Those commie jets were fast. Turn radius the size of Texas though.
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:31:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FlyNavy75:

Honestly I’m not sure but 2.5 I’d say is a good guess. It depends on environmentals, configurations, Pilot nut sack, etc.

Those commie jets were fast. Turn radius the size of Texas though.
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Originally Posted By FlyNavy75:
Originally Posted By azjeeper:

3+?

Honestly I’m not sure but 2.5 I’d say is a good guess. It depends on environmentals, configurations, Pilot nut sack, etc.

Those commie jets were fast. Turn radius the size of Texas though.

That thing looked like a brick with two YUGE engines!
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:31:33 PM EDT
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Lazy .74 here
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:31:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FlyNavy75:
1.39 in a F-18D here
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That’s cute.

I did about 180 in a Seneca once through class B.

Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:32:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By azjeeper:

That think looked like a brick with two YUGE engines!
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There was one outside the chow hall at Al Assad without its motors and I could have probably stood up in the bay.
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:32:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By davidb1982:

That’s cute.

I did about 180 in a Seneca once through class B.

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Class B is no joke!
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:33:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FlyNavy75:

There was one outside the chow hall at Al Assad without its motors and I could have probably stood up in the bay.
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Originally Posted By FlyNavy75:
Originally Posted By azjeeper:

That think looked like a brick with two YUGE engines!

There was one outside the chow hall at Al Assad without its motors and I could have probably stood up in the bay.

Damn
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:42:15 PM EDT
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I've climbed around on the SAGEBURNER  Bu.145307 Phantom.

BTW, if anyone from the Smithsonian Air & Space museum is reading, one of the fire warning elements in the port engine bay of Bu.145307 is NOT the original one used during Bu.145307's last flight because it was CANN'd so we (MAG-41, Det A / VMFA 321) could get a few more flights out of one of our F-4S before we were fully transitioned to Hornets back in 1991.  But we really appreciated y'all loaning it to us for the retirement/transition ceremony (we even washed it)!!!
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:47:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By azjeeper:

3+?
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With the expectation of an in-flight engine rebuild, I think...
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:47:44 PM EDT
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Not to brag, but I went well past Vne driving a friend’s diesel Chevette back in the Cold War era. At WOT, I thought it was going to break up around me as I hit 0.03 Mach.
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:49:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FlyNavy75:

Honestly I’m not sure but 2.5 I’d say is a good guess. It depends on environmentals, configurations, Pilot nut sack, etc.

Those commie jets were fast. Turn radius the size of Texas though.
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Originally Posted By FlyNavy75:
Originally Posted By azjeeper:

3+?

Honestly I’m not sure but 2.5 I’d say is a good guess. It depends on environmentals, configurations, Pilot nut sack, etc.

Those commie jets were fast. Turn radius the size of Texas though.


If they tried doing that though didn't it fry the jet engines and they had to be replaced. Kinda like a 1 and done thing pushing it that fast.
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:49:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mr_camera_man:
With the expectation of an in-flight engine rebuild, I think...
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Originally Posted By mr_camera_man:
Originally Posted By azjeeper:

3+?
With the expectation of an in-flight engine rebuild, I think...

So you're saying there's a chance?!?
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:52:08 PM EDT
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Does Mach 2 have any effect on weapon systems functioning properly?
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:52:17 PM EDT
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I can smell the ego from here.

Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:52:52 PM EDT
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Flew at Mach -0.04 or so in a 60 once
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:53:44 PM EDT
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If they tried doing that though didn't it fry the jet engines and they had to be replaced. Kinda like a 1 and done thing pushing it that fast.
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Think you’re right
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 9:58:23 PM EDT
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3.75 mph is the fastest I can walk.
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 10:15:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 4thbreak:
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Only if you turn the lights on.
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 10:15:52 PM EDT
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I'm thinking the ECS knob was just set to max defog, or something.
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 10:18:30 PM EDT
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2.04 in Concorde
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 10:22:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FlyNavy75:

It's fast for any fighter. The published numbers on all the fighters are mostly bullshit. Mig-25 is different though.
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Foxbat is real world fast.

Like a slicked up mud hen coming out of depot level maintenance when they took the conformals off.  Or so I've heard.
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 10:23:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By azjeeper:

3+?
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If you are OK with junking the engines.
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 10:23:28 PM EDT
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.19 in my first real car 1986 Z28.  
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 10:26:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FlyNavy75:
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Cool! And glad to see you still here, I had been wondering if you were still around. Always enjoyed your posts after you mentined dropping that bomb on the Hilux! Lol
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 10:26:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Captain92:

Cool! And glad to see you still here, i had been wondering if you still around. Always enjoyed your posts after mentioning dropping that bomb on the Hilux! Lol
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Still can’t believe they drove away from that.
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 10:27:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By oscardeuce:



0.202 in the O-2A
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Originally Posted By oscardeuce:
Originally Posted By FlyNavy75:
1.39 in a F-18D here



0.202 in the O-2A


0.48 in the HC-130!

Link Posted: 5/11/2022 10:27:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FlyNavy75:

Still can’t believe they drove away from that.
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I'm sure they won't take anymore wrong turns! Lol
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 10:28:10 PM EDT
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.787 all night long.
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 10:31:03 PM EDT
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I got to like 150kts in a UH-60 once.
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 10:31:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Porkchop_Sandwiches:
2.04 in Concorde
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And you were comfortable because Concorde uses a fuel-cooled intercooler between the compressor and turbine of the air cycle machine.  I don't think any model of F-16 has an ECS configured like that, and that's most likely why this pilot was feeling what he was feeling.
Link Posted: 5/11/2022 10:32:18 PM EDT
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I haven’t even hit Vno in a C172.
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