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Posted: 11/17/2023 8:02:27 PM EST
9mm Supers and Subs.

Anyone else do some casting today?

PWS
Link Posted: 11/17/2023 8:06:34 PM EST
[#1]
Good looking projos.

I don’t cast. But I did get 4lb of Titegroup and 1500 SPP delivered today. Gonna load 9mm subs.
Link Posted: 11/17/2023 8:07:57 PM EST
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Didnt cast any today but I need to cast again soon.  I'm out of 45s and 9s
Link Posted: 11/17/2023 8:12:53 PM EST
[#3]
Very nice.

Link Posted: 11/17/2023 8:15:44 PM EST
[#4]
That’s my winter hobby. It’s still too hot here.
Link Posted: 11/17/2023 8:16:22 PM EST
[#5]
Nice!
Link Posted: 11/17/2023 8:19:28 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Commando223:
9mm Supers and Subs.

Anyone else do some casting today?

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Which mould are you using?

I have had about 4 of the MiHec brass moulds for at least
10 years now..  But I haven’t used them  yet.

Some pic via a bing image search:

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Link Posted: 11/17/2023 8:21:47 PM EST
[#7]
Buddy of mine casts, and has those molds.  He did about 400 rn 38s and 250 45s last week.
Link Posted: 11/17/2023 8:22:11 PM EST
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Originally Posted By WeimaranerDad:


Which mould are you using?

I have had about 4 of the MiHec brass moulds for at least
10 years now..  But I haven’t used them  yet.

Some pic via a bing image search:

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I'm also using a 4 cav brass mould works great but they are heavy can only cast so long with it.

https://www.mp-molds.com/product/9mm-38-147-154-bevel-basehollow-point-no-lube-groove-multi-choice/
Link Posted: 11/17/2023 8:45:32 PM EST
[#9]
This thread reminds me I need to do something with this stuff...


Link Posted: 11/17/2023 8:48:55 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Jason280:
This thread reminds me I need to do something with this stuff...

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Want...
Link Posted: 11/17/2023 9:03:14 PM EST
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Last week, .454 round balls for the BP revolvers.
Link Posted: 11/18/2023 6:51:54 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Commando223:


I'm also using a 4 cav brass mould works great but they are heavy can only cast so long with it.

https://www.mp-molds.com/product/9mm-38-147-154-bevel-basehollow-point-no-lube-groove-multi-choice/
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Nice!

When i bought my moulds from MP, all of his moulds still had lube grooves, and powder coating was just starting to catch on.

He also only took PayPal back then.

Maybe it was a gun-related thing or maybe related to his moulds coming  from overseas, but my PP account got locked like a week after the 4 moulds I had ordered actually arrived.



Are you planning on powder coating those  boolits?




Link Posted: 11/18/2023 11:21:47 AM EST
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Originally Posted By WeimaranerDad:


Nice!

When i bought my moulds from MP, all of his moulds still had lube grooves, and powder coating was just starting to catch on.

He also only took PayPal back then.

Maybe it was a gun-related thing or maybe related to his moulds coming  from overseas, but my PP account got locked like a week after the 4 moulds I had ordered actually arrived.



Are you planning on powder coating those  boolits?




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Originally Posted By WeimaranerDad:
Originally Posted By Commando223:


I'm also using a 4 cav brass mould works great but they are heavy can only cast so long with it.

https://www.mp-molds.com/product/9mm-38-147-154-bevel-basehollow-point-no-lube-groove-multi-choice/


Nice!

When i bought my moulds from MP, all of his moulds still had lube grooves, and powder coating was just starting to catch on.

He also only took PayPal back then.

Maybe it was a gun-related thing or maybe related to his moulds coming  from overseas, but my PP account got locked like a week after the 4 moulds I had ordered actually arrived.



Are you planning on powder coating those  boolits?






I've been doing some experimenting on my coating first important step was getting an oven thermometer. I found out my little oven takes like 10mins to get upto temp and I need to go slightly above 400 to actually get 400 degrees.

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Link Posted: 11/18/2023 11:34:49 AM EST
[#14]
Man, I need to do that today. Its a great day for it
Link Posted: 11/19/2023 11:08:02 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Commando223:


I've been doing some experimenting on my coating first important step was getting an oven thermometer. I found out my little oven takes like 10mins to get upto temp and I need to go slightly above 400 to actually get 400 degrees.

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Are you doing the shake and bake method with airsoft BB’s?

Those are nice looking boolits?
Link Posted: 11/19/2023 1:00:50 PM EST
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Originally Posted By WeimaranerDad:


Are you doing the shake and bake method with airsoft BB’s?

Those are nice looking boolits?
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Originally Posted By WeimaranerDad:
Originally Posted By Commando223:


I've been doing some experimenting on my coating first important step was getting an oven thermometer. I found out my little oven takes like 10mins to get upto temp and I need to go slightly above 400 to actually get 400 degrees.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/63506/20211220_00385611_jpg-3031874.JPG


Are you doing the shake and bake method with airsoft BB’s?

Those are nice looking boolits?


Yup shake em and bake em

Thanks
Link Posted: 11/19/2023 1:17:22 PM EST
[#17]
Outstanding.
Link Posted: 11/19/2023 5:36:34 PM EST
[#18]
I should get out and cast some .490 balls for my smokepoles.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 3:45:52 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Commando223:


Yup shake em and bake em

Thanks
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Back then  people were ever so diligently placing their boolits on cookie sheets covered in Reynold’s non stick aluminum foil and the spraying their boolits with the cheap Harbor Freight powder coating gun, I tried the acetone method.

I would dissolve the powder coat powder in a tub of acetone.  Swirl the boolits in that.  Dump them into a wire mesh basket and bake them in a toaster oven (after the acetone flashed off outside).

Problem was I would shut off the toaster oven, let the boolits cool.  Then take them out of the toaster oven.

They glued themselves together with one another.

So I gave up on it for a while.  When i finally made my way back to the cast boolits forum, somebody had come up with the shake and bake method.


Link Posted: 11/20/2023 3:48:44 PM EST
[#20]
Why do we keep saying "boolits"?
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 3:54:02 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TradWoodsman:
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Its a CastBoolits thing
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 3:58:52 PM EST
[#22]
I used to love casting... it has been a long time.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 3:59:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: rabidus] [#23]
Nice OP!

I don’t cast 9mm anymore.

Just buy jacketed. Use my precious lead for other expensive calibers. 45acp, 12ga slugs, 45-70 etc
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 4:04:28 PM EST
[#24]
Have you ever tested your lead levels?

Mine have consistently been high for the last 15 years and I don't cast. Just hand load and shoot lots of ammo. Even went with the expense of using coated bullets and wet tumbling to help reduce levels. It helps but my last test was 9.7 MCG/DL.

Nice bullets BTW.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 4:12:57 PM EST
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Originally Posted By carcrazysammy:
Have you ever tested your lead levels?

Mine have consistently been high for the last 15 years and I don't cast. Just hand load and shoot lots of ammo. Even went with the expense of using coated bullets and wet tumbling to help reduce levels. It helps but my last test was 9.7 MCG/DL.

Nice bullets BTW.
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Do you shoot indoors?

Most lead is the lead vapor when firing rounds and depriming.

I wet tumble fired/dirty brass and deprime when the primer pocket is still wet/damp.

Got lead tested once. Numbers were low/normal.

Learned that blood tests aren’t accurate. After days/weeks, lead moves away from your blood into your bones.

So the test can not be accurate.


There are foods/supplements that can draw lead out of your body.

Also wash hands, wash clothes you reload/cast in separate.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 4:15:18 PM EST
[#26]
There are a couple of "shake & bake" approaches out there - any comments on what details produce the best results for you guys?
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 4:37:19 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TradWoodsman:
Why do we keep saying "boolits"?
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It was kind of cute when it first started. Then I kind of got sick of it and quit going there.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 4:40:36 PM EST
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Originally Posted By rabidus:


Do you shoot indoors?

Most lead is the lead vapor when firing rounds and depriming.

I wet tumble fired/dirty brass and deprime when the primer pocket is still wet/damp.

Got lead tested once. Numbers were low/normal.

Learned that blood tests aren’t accurate. After days/weeks, lead moves away from your blood into your bones.

So the test can not be accurate.


There are foods/supplements that can draw lead out of your body.

Also wash hands, wash clothes you reload/cast in separate.
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All my shooting is outdoors. About 10 hours a week is reloading and shooting.

I didn't want to derail this thread. Casting has been on my radar for awhile but my health came first. Jelly.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 4:50:20 PM EST
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Originally Posted By anachronism:


It was kind of cute when it first started. Then I kind of got sick of it and quit going there.
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Originally Posted By anachronism:
Originally Posted By TradWoodsman:
Why do we keep saying "boolits"?


It was kind of cute when it first started. Then I kind of got sick of it and quit going there.


Yeah....LOL.....and no disrespect to anyone here. I don't cast or reload, your skills are far beyond mine. But "boolits" makes me cringe a bit. So does "shotty".
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 5:40:27 PM EST
[#30]
Got plenty of different caliber moulds for my hand guns.

but most my casting nowdays is just few hundred at a time for heavy 41mag hunting bullets for my blackhawk and my gas check 45/70 hunting bullets for the "cowboy" leveraction.

I bought a shitload of 9, 38, 40, 45acp & colt bullets from j&k bullets awhile back at a really great price, so i havent had the need to cast any for a while.


Link Posted: 11/20/2023 5:50:20 PM EST
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Originally Posted By carcrazysammy:
Have you ever tested your lead levels?

Mine have consistently been high for the last 15 years and I don't cast. Just hand load and shoot lots of ammo. Even went with the expense of using coated bullets and wet tumbling to help reduce levels. It helps but my last test was 9.7 MCG/DL.

Nice bullets BTW.
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Casting doesn’t really have a lot of situations where your body is ingesting lead.  Molten lead is not vaporized by any equipment you are likely using with casting.  

Look at how you are cleaning your guns, how you are cleaning fired casings, washing off shoes when leaving the range, etc.  most lead uptake will be from primers/residue.

My levels were below that (I believe), and that was while instructing at a range with severely deficient air handling where it was ridiculous how sooty the air was inside.  What is your shooting location like?
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 5:51:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By anachronism:


It was kind of cute when it first started. Then I kind of got sick of it and quit going there.
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Originally Posted By anachronism:
Originally Posted By TradWoodsman:
Why do we keep saying "boolits"?


It was kind of cute when it first started. Then I kind of got sick of it and quit going there.



Yeah it is fucking annoying and I refuse to participate in the cutesy BS spelling…
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 5:56:12 PM EST
[#33]
OP, do you like to sort?


Link Posted: 11/20/2023 5:58:41 PM EST
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Originally Posted By carcrazysammy:
Have you ever tested your lead levels?

Mine have consistently been high for the last 15 years and I don't cast. Just hand load and shoot lots of ammo. Even went with the expense of using coated bullets and wet tumbling to help reduce levels. It helps but my last test was 9.7 MCG/DL.

Nice bullets BTW.
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I shoot weekly and load shotshells and Lead for .38spl and attend a couple MG shoots every year. I handle a lot of ammunition and clean a lot of guns. I have my Lead levels tested annually and I am consistently at ~0.2 µg/dL.

I’d look at other sources for Lead exposure in your life. Work maybe? Old house with old pipes? Contaminated water supply?

Link Posted: 11/20/2023 5:59:36 PM EST
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What does anyone know about copper jackets? I scrounged valley from my roof but it needs to be rolled thinner imho.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 10:29:14 PM EST
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Originally Posted By cmw:
There are a couple of "shake & bake" approaches out there - any comments on what details produce the best results for you guys?
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I've been using an old tumbler I had laying round. I place the bullets with the bb's & powder in the #5 plastic container swirl it round by hand for 1min then place in tumbler for 10-15mins.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 10:38:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: AZ_Sky] [#37]
I haven't cast in a while, I'm still good.
That doesn't mean I shouldn't cast some more...
This is a good time of year to do it!

I cast bullets to drop at size so I don't have to resize/lube, I drop and pan lube (SPG is my lube of choice for my Sharps rifles).




Link Posted: 11/20/2023 10:50:24 PM EST
[#38]
It finally got cool enough to cast - I had loaded and shot all of my cast BOOLITS...bummer. But I was able to get the pot fired up again, cast up a bunch of 9mm 124gr Tumble Lube and .358 158 grain SWC, both Lee molds. I have two more molds en route, so looking forward to firing up the pot again the weekend. I am the ultimate low volume caster - I rarely drop more than 150 at a time.
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 10:52:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: chase45] [#39]
Boy I don't make that many in a sitting lol

I cranked out maybe 200 the other night however

Doing last round of powder coat right now
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:24:18 PM EST
[#40]
How much $ does it cost to get into this sort of casting - minus the lead, just the equipment?
Link Posted: 11/20/2023 11:32:42 PM EST
[#41]
Wow. I haven't casted any .45 stuff in a long time. I found it easier to just buy them at gun shows.
Now with sites like Blue Bullets, I get my .45 and 9mm cast and coated projectiles from them and Badman Bullets.
Link Posted: 11/21/2023 12:48:14 PM EST
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How much $ does it cost to get into this sort of casting - minus the lead, just the equipment?
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It depends.

Like a lot of other gun stuff, you get what you pay for.

Or said another way:  buy once, cry once.

You can go the cheap route and buy a Lee pot and Lee moulds.
 And a Lee push through sizer that fits on top of a single stage press.

And just tumble lube with Lee Liquid Alox (LLA).

Checking out Midway’s site:

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1262222909?pid=637732

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1010196715?pid=148534

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1010195622?pid=117892

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1018523537?pid=694226

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/101020682?pid=466811

Lee casting pot…………….. $68
Lee 6 cavity mold .45ACP… $43
Lee mold handles……………$20
Lee push thru sizing die…….$20
Lee Liquid Alox bullet lube….$8.00
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Total…………………………..$159 plus shipping and handling

Of course, if you use LLA you might have to deal with more smoke when the gun goes off.

Or you might have to deal with more leading in the barrel versus powder coating.


Link Posted: 11/22/2023 12:08:10 PM EST
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Don’t laugh!

My attempt with acetone and powder coat years ago:

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Link Posted: 11/22/2023 12:17:38 PM EST
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Takes a lot of trial and error to find a process that works for you.

I stand them up on a baking tray for pistol bullets or silicone mat for rifle bullets.

I use blue nitrile gloves and rub some of the powder on the finger tips I'm going to use and simply pick them up and place them by hand it goes pretty quick.
Link Posted: 11/22/2023 9:41:48 PM EST
[Last Edit: Commando223] [#45]
These silicon ice cube trays are perfect for rifle bullets.

Amazon Product
  • \u3010Mini Ice Cube Trays \u3011 - Each ice tray makes 160 small 3/8" cubes. Great for crushed ice, coffee, smoothies, frappucinos, hard candy and chocolate bites.



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Link Posted: 11/26/2023 6:22:10 PM EST
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Thank you sir!
Link Posted: 11/28/2023 11:23:09 AM EST
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Now THAT is a good idea!
Link Posted: 11/28/2023 11:35:17 AM EST
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Plastic tub, maybe an inch or two of airsoft BBs in the bottom, add about two spoonfuls of Eastwood Signal Red powder, shake well, put bullets on NSAF and bake in the oven.

With Eastwood powder, there's virtually no offgassing, so, yes, I bake right in my kitchen oven.

Link Posted: 11/28/2023 11:37:17 AM EST
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I use hitek coating

I just take a plastic tub throw the bullets in. Throw in some solution. Mix by moving the tub in a circular motion

You can hear the sound change and thats when I dump the bullets onto a screen sheet

I let dry and throw them in the oven. No separating or anything like that.

Usually coat 2-3 times.
Link Posted: 11/28/2023 11:37:38 AM EST
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Originally Posted By carcrazysammy:
Have you ever tested your lead levels?

Mine have consistently been high for the last 15 years and I don't cast. Just hand load and shoot lots of ammo. Even went with the expense of using coated bullets and wet tumbling to help reduce levels. It helps but my last test was 9.7 MCG/DL.

Nice bullets BTW.
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I tested my own levels and the levels in my daughters when I was casting and shooting a lot (much more than I do now) and they were all low/normal. Practice basic things like not handling dirty lead more than you have to, wash your hands after handling, don't eat/drink/smoke with dirty hands, don't make/touch lead acetate (from cleaning with 'the dip'), don't overheat your melt, do run some ventilation when casting....

Do those things and you'll see no change in lead levels from casting.
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