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Posted: 8/30/2020 10:43:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Name is Michael Reinoehl Snowboarder and contractor in Oregon 3604 SE Powell Valley Rd #317 Gresham, OR, 97080 5034210293 Crashtestreinoehl@gmail. Aspen Highlands Apartments 3604 SE Powell Valley Rd, Gresham, OR 97080 Office: (503) 491-3268 http://www.carlaprop.com/property/aspen-highlands-apartments/ |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 10:43:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I really think that's a mistake. The left has finally exposed themselves for the crazy thugs they are. The point has hit home with millions of Americans. Don't screw that up and give the left media the chance to portray them as victims again. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lots of chatter in livestream chat about patriots heading back in to Portland. Ruh roh... The point has hit home with millions of Americans. Don't screw that up and give the left media the chance to portray them as victims again. The media will always make them the victim, they ARE them... There's only one way to fix this. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 10:44:06 AM EDT
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You cannot aggressively approach someone while brandishing a firearm and shouting "GET THEM"....Then claim self defense when they mace you.
We have some serious Antifa infiltration going on here. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 10:44:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Same tat, same ear, same jawline, nose is real close. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: From 4chan https://i.imgur.com/WHoyYpT.jpg "his name is Michael, 48 years old, self proclaimed military vet, was shot in the right arm in july at a portland protest. is this the murderer?"  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfMnZX7Z56oSame tat, same ear, same jawline, nose is real close. Online Twitter account photos do not show the tattoo. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 10:44:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve been thinking that for awhile now Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: "Going to" get real? My friend, the "real shit" bus has already left the station. No kidding. People are being assaulted/killed for putting out dumpster fires and expressing their political views. It appears there is a common thread in those who have committed recent assaults. Either convicted felons are being naturally drawn to this "movement" or they're being actively recruited. [Tinfoil on] I am now wondering if the release of criminals from jails and prisons during the early days of the Vid, was part of their plan to increase the pool of candidates [tinfoil off] I’ve been thinking that for awhile now Hmmm..... Lawless, often violent, criminals are suddenly released from jail during a time when unemployment is at an all time high and social services are overwhelmed. They have no visible means of financial support, but immediately show up in the service of a violent political movement that has been known to pay its participants. They suddenly have access to expensive premade signs, logistics, legal representation, and interstate travel... again, with no visible means of income. It's almost as if they were recruited while institutionalized or immediately after release. Nah, must be a conspiracy theory. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 10:45:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Conflicting articles dispute this........one says "shot in the back" another article I read says "police said he was shot in the chest". NY Post article says "police said he was shot in the chest". "Police said the man was shot in the chest and was declared dead at the scene. He was not immediately identified." you all do know that carmelbythesea has another thread with pictures in it, of the victim, right? and that thread started at 1am, before this one? https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Deja-Vu-Man-surrounded-at-gas-station-someone-shot-in-Portland-Update-white-male-DEAD/5-2363726/ edit f*ing hot link got fouled up by the system again |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 10:46:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I really think that's a mistake. The left has finally exposed themselves for the crazy thugs they are. The point has hit home with millions of Americans. Don't screw that up and give the left media the chance to portray them as victims again. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lots of chatter in livestream chat about patriots heading back in to Portland. Ruh roh... The point has hit home with millions of Americans. Don't screw that up and give the left media the chance to portray them as victims again. Antifa just straight murdered someone and are boasting about it. The only proper course of action is to dare them to do so again, with enough forcing behind the dare that Anitfa is forced to back down or be destroyed. This *is* de-escalation. We'll see if Antifa takes the invitation to peace extended, or if they come out rowdy & suicidal. Annihilating a rabid group *also* de-escalates conflict. It's been shown that a gaggle of perhaps a hundred are responsible for the worst of these rallies around the nation, that they travel to. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 10:47:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hmmm..... Lawless, often violent, criminals are suddenly released from jail during a time when unemployment is at an all time high and social services are overwhelmed. They have no visible means of financial support, but immediately show up in the service of a violent political movement that has been known to pay its participants. They suddenly have access to expensive premade signs, logistics, legal representation, and interstate travel... again, with no visible means of income. It's almost as if they were recruited while institutionalized or immediately after release. Nah, must be a conspiracy theory. Does make one wonder doesn't it............. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 10:47:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: you all do know that carmelbythesea has another thread with pictures in it, of the victim, right? https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Deja-Vu-Man-surrounded-at-gas-station-someone-shot-in-Portland-Update-white-male-DEAD/5-2363726/ No......thanks!! ETA: All I saw was the victim lying on his back and a bullet hole in the torso.........what am I missing? @cm |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 10:48:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat would also be a useful point of information and would further show that the man with the handgun was likely the aggressor. In which case, cool, I think I've got enough to say that we don't need to exercise much caution about implying the gunner was in the wrong. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 10:48:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You cannot aggressively approach someone while brandishing a firearm and shouting "GET THEM"....Then claim self defense when they mace you. We have some serious Antifa infiltration going on here. Yeah, I think this is what happened. The mace was being used in self-defense from the guy with the gun, not the other way around. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 10:48:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You cannot aggressively approach someone while brandishing a firearm and shouting "GET THEM"....Then claim self defense when they mace you. We have some serious Antifa infiltration going on here. More likely people just like to argue on the internet. If you gave away free money someone here would find a way to say you were wrong. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 10:52:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: More likely people just like to argue on the internet. If you gave away free money someone here would find a way to say you were wrong. I just said we have probably have enough information to comfortably infer/imply the gun with the gun was the murderer/in the wrong. Before, I had legitimate questions. You'll find plenty of others who argue nonconstructively simply for its own sake without ever bothering to update their views. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 10:52:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, I think this is what happened. The mace was being used in self-defense from the guy with the gun, not the other way around. I think that is probably what happened also. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 10:53:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where do you guys see a guy pepper spraying someone? That cloud is instant. Looks to me like either very Smokey ammo or a round hit the pepper spray can. I agree with your analysis, I think round from assassins pistol hit victim’s mace canister. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 10:54:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You cannot aggressively approach someone while brandishing a firearm and shouting "GET THEM"....Then claim self defense when they mace you. We have some serious Antifa infiltration going on here. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 10:54:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like "BidenRiots" and "Antifa" are trending on twitter. The leftys are claiming that the victim "sprayed mace" which is why he was shot. The dust kicked up by the gun is pretty insane though. I wonder if he was sprayed because he was racking his slide? Don't bring skateboards or mace to a gunfight. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 10:56:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Might be just a padded vest or maybe a stab-proof one. Up til now, the Antifa vs Proud Boy scuffles have largely been fought using melee weapons. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Allegedly this is the victim; looks like he's wearing a concealed vest? In which case he got domed, but doesn't look like that either. https://media.thedonald.win/post/hUmcmfQn.jpeg 2020 is a weird fucking year. Might be just a padded vest or maybe a stab-proof one. Up til now, the Antifa vs Proud Boy scuffles have largely been fought using melee weapons. Motorcycle gear? |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 10:57:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That would also be a useful point of information and would further show that the man with the handgun was likely the aggressor. In which case, cool, I think I've got enough to say that we don't need to exercise much caution about implying the gunner was in the wrong. Quote HistoryQuoted: That would also be a useful point of information and would further show that the man with the handgun was likely the aggressor. In which case, cool, I think I've got enough to say that we don't need to exercise much caution about implying the gunner was in the wrong. Welp I sure he has already tried to surrender to the police just like Kyle so he will be taken in to custody shortly 
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Posted: 8/30/2020 10:58:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So if this is the beginning of the boog who do you believe makes the next move? "Our" people aren't cold blooded killers, and typically take a defensive posture. Hell, most won't even accept that we are at war. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 10:58:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Welp I sure he has already tried to surrender to the police just like Kyle so he will be taken in to custody shortly Yup, another obvious tell, he fled. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 10:59:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ...do we want to wait for the details to come out, or are we going to rush to snap judgements? Come on. We did pretty well for Kyle, I'd go so far as to say I helped you guys out there. Let's not get over your heads like the people who chased him & everyone who immediately deemed him a murderer. Because even what may be a dirtbag commie has just as much right to pull on someone who draws mace at close range without good reason, if what some people say is true. If the dude was shot without appropriate provocation, then yes this is unjustified murder. Bullfuckingshit. Communist insurgents have no right of self defense. They are no different than ISIS, or the Taliban. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 11:00:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: you're suspicious, because you are ignoring that antifa targeted that person, by yelling "hey, we got another right here.. we go another right here", causing all the antifa to start surrounding that victim sequence seems to be man yelling "no, no" man yelling "hey, we got another right here.. we go another right here" " ick good job(?)" man says "right here?" and 2 shots are fired https://imgur.com/dnseNoN |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 11:00:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The media will always make them the victim, they ARE them... There's only one way to fix this. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Lots of chatter in livestream chat about patriots heading back in to Portland. Ruh roh... The point has hit home with millions of Americans. Don't screw that up and give the left media the chance to portray them as victims again. The media will always make them the victim, they ARE them... There's only one way to fix this. The media *is* them. It doesn't matter what Antifa says, and it doesn't matter what MSM says. Anyone who still believes they are accurately reporting is either a collaborator, or much more likely a brainwashed piece of scenery we don't have to worry about fighting. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 11:03:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hmmm..... Lawless, often violent, criminals are suddenly released from jail during a time when unemployment is at an all time high and social services are overwhelmed. They have no visible means of financial support, but immediately show up in the service of a violent political movement that has been known to pay its participants. They suddenly have access to expensive premade signs, logistics, legal representation, and interstate travel... again, with no visible means of income. It's almost as if they were recruited while institutionalized or immediately after release. Nah, must be a conspiracy theory. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: "Going to" get real? My friend, the "real shit" bus has already left the station. No kidding. People are being assaulted/killed for putting out dumpster fires and expressing their political views. It appears there is a common thread in those who have committed recent assaults. Either convicted felons are being naturally drawn to this "movement" or they're being actively recruited. [Tinfoil on] I am now wondering if the release of criminals from jails and prisons during the early days of the Vid, was part of their plan to increase the pool of candidates [tinfoil off] I’ve been thinking that for awhile now Hmmm..... Lawless, often violent, criminals are suddenly released from jail during a time when unemployment is at an all time high and social services are overwhelmed. They have no visible means of financial support, but immediately show up in the service of a violent political movement that has been known to pay its participants. They suddenly have access to expensive premade signs, logistics, legal representation, and interstate travel... again, with no visible means of income. It's almost as if they were recruited while institutionalized or immediately after release. Nah, must be a conspiracy theory. "Our charity groups prides itself on assisting the most marginalized members of society" |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 11:03:51 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You asked 45Custom if macing was good enough reason to shoot the macer. If a cop maced me he would be doing it to subdue me.......if a non LEO maced me it would make me think he had nefarious reasons. Could I use deadly force if I thought he maced me for nefarious reasons? Not at one of these public events, where it is common. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 11:04:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: More likely people just like to argue on the internet. If you gave away free money someone here would find a way to say you were wrong. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You cannot aggressively approach someone while brandishing a firearm and shouting "GET THEM"....Then claim self defense when they mace you. We have some serious Antifa infiltration going on here. More likely people just like to argue on the internet. If you gave away free money someone here would find a way to say you were wrong. Dammit, the money will only ruin their work ethic and lead to them being worse off in the future! 
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Posted: 8/30/2020 11:05:47 AM EDT
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Looks like the chans have identified the killer:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/4chan-users-appear-identified-portland-rioter-shot-killed-trump-supporter/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 11:05:48 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What led up to the shooting? The left's perpetuation of a false narrative that Rittenhouse was a "right-wing militia member on a shooting/murder spree". |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 11:07:12 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Great, just fucking great. I have to go to Portladishu for work in a month and can't bring a gun with me. Looks like I won't be leaving the hotel for 2 weeks. This shit will not stop with any outcome in November. It's either us or them as the last man standing. Sooner or later the unthinkable will need to be done and done swiftly Why can't you? Everyone else's has one. When you're the only one following the rules, there's something to consider. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 11:08:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not at one of these public events, where it is common. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You asked 45Custom if macing was good enough reason to shoot the macer. If a cop maced me he would be doing it to subdue me.......if a non LEO maced me it would make me think he had nefarious reasons. Could I use deadly force if I thought he maced me for nefarious reasons? Not at one of these public events, where it is common. Well what recourse would I have? |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 11:08:12 AM EDT
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Fucking PPB is clueless. "We don't know what happened"
 https://www.kptv.com/news/ppb-one-person-dead-after-shooting-in-downtown-portland/article_608e9c6a-ea79-11ea-ac8a-abc888f6aea9.html PORTLAND, OR (KPTV)- Police are investigating a homicide after a shooting in downtown Portland on Saturday. The shooting happened while protesters were in the area. It's unclear if the shooting is connected to the protests. Officers reported hearing gunshots coming from the area of Southeast 3rd Avenue and Southwest Alder Street. They responded and found a person with a gunshot wound to the chest. And don't forget, PPB doesn't consider cellphone video as enough evidence. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 11:08:39 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Come on, you know good and well that they do have rights until due process and the law provides sufficient justification to deprive them of such. Unless we just decide using the vigilante justice so many have decried that anyone we don't like is a commie with no rights. That would certainly have no negative repercussions down the road. Police is a modern invention that works in a generally civilized society. Soro's and his open society, which Antifa is a part of, provide the antithesis of western civilization and need to be partitioned by whatever means necessary. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 11:09:06 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You cannot aggressively approach someone while brandishing a firearm and shouting "GET THEM"....Then claim self defense when they mace you. We have some serious Antifa infiltration going on here. Yes we do. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 11:12:04 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Does make one wonder doesn't it............. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Hmmm..... Lawless, often violent, criminals are suddenly released from jail during a time when unemployment is at an all time high and social services are overwhelmed. They have no visible means of financial support, but immediately show up in the service of a violent political movement that has been known to pay its participants. They suddenly have access to expensive premade signs, logistics, legal representation, and interstate travel... again, with no visible means of income. It's almost as if they were recruited while institutionalized or immediately after release. Nah, must be a conspiracy theory. Does make one wonder doesn't it............. It’s historically been a pretty common tactic in revolutions. Break open the prisons and release all of the violent criminals to terrorize the population. Except this time they didn’t need to break open the prisons. Democratic governors just let the convicts out. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 11:13:05 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s historically been a pretty common tactic in revolutions. Break open the prisons and release all of the violent criminals to terrorize the population. Except this time they didn’t need to break open the prisons. Democratic governors just let the convicts out. Helter Skelter 2.0 
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Posted: 8/30/2020 11:13:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree with your analysis, I think round from assassins pistol hit victim's mace canister. looking at the video again, you still can't make out any details, but from the sequence where I think the perp says "right here?", then immediately shoots one shot, and the fog appears, I think that might be what happened. victim is actually walking at an angle to the garage opening  Attached Filefirst shot and cloud appears around victim  Attached Filecloud gets bigger as the 2nd shot is fired  Attached Filecloud keeps expanding as shooter turns and walks away  Attached Filetruck gets in the way, and when it passes, the victim has turned away and tries to take a few steps before falling  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 11:14:15 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Online Twitter account photos do not show the tattoo. His last post on Facebook is February 27th and the newest pic where you can see his neck has a post date of July 21, 2017. Plenty of time to get a new tat. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 11:15:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When the police don't assist with domestic tranquility, the ordinary citizen is soley responsible with its provision. Police is a modern invention that works in a generally civilized society. Soro's and his open society, which Antifa is a part of, provide the antithesis of western civilization and need to be partitioned by whatever means necessary. Should they have not tread on anyone's rights, I would declare even a Nazi has a basic human right to self defense, even if I would spend no time exalting their character. A Nazi insurgent, no, but it does not take much of a look at the many obese ineffectual basement skinheads to realize that calling them Nazi insurgents is inaccurate. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 11:18:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well what recourse would I have? You need to decide what games you are going to play. If you are doing the less than lethal yard jousting thing then you can’t respond to less than lethal with lethal. The justification for shooting someone who sprays you would require something like a reasonable belief they are attempting to disarm you. More reasonable if you open carry. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 11:20:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You need to decide what games you are going to play. If you are doing the less than lethal yard jousting thing then you can’t respond to less than lethal with lethal. The justification for shooting someone who sprays you would require something like a reasonable belief they are attempting to disarm you. More reasonable if you open carry. Ok, thanks. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 11:20:17 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryI haven’t laughed that hard in a while. 
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Posted: 8/30/2020 11:20:18 AM EDT
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Looks like in May the guy just went off the rails. Before that his Instagram is filled with snowboarding and family kind of stuff. Nothing political at all. Starting May 30th it's all commie bullshit. I'm sure he's always been a lefty, but talk about flipping a switch.
https://www.instagram.com/michael_reinoehl/?hl=en |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 11:21:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 75% you’re more fair than I am. 99.9% that ANTIFA is the culprit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Is there any evidence the shooter was maced? I don't think so........couldn't tell one way or the other if macing had any impact on this scenario. I lean towards Antifa being the culprit and aggressor but it is possible I am wrong. (I'll give odds of at least 75% chance Antifa is at fault.) 75% you’re more fair than I am. 99.9% that ANTIFA is the culprit. I just read an article about the “professional snowboarder” (sorry I don’t have the link, it was linked on FB). He claimed he is “100% Antifa” in a Bloomberg interview not too long ago. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 11:21:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And yet, should the common citizenry take it upon themselves to be the law in a land of the lawless, it is not difficult to see that depriving one of defensive rights based on political affiliation is a slope far too slippery. Should they have not tread on anyone's rights, I would declare even a Nazi has a basic human right to self defense, even if I would spend no time exalting their character. A Nazi insurgent, no, but it does not take much of a look at the many obese ineffectual basement skinheads to realize that calling them Nazi insurgents is inaccurate. you've ignored that the victim was targeted several times. the pics I posted above show the gas did not stream out toward the shooter, but enveloped the victim. want to spin the optics more? |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 11:24:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If this armed confrontation from both sides continue we will see the most restrictive gun laws ever being demanded by the general public. Depends on what kind of government is left. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 11:25:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: you've ignored that the victim was targeted several times. the pics I posted above show the gas did not stream out toward the shooter, but enveloped the victim. want to spin the optics more? @cm https://imgur.com/dnseNoN |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 11:28:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: you've ignored that the victim was targeted several times. the pics I posted above show the gas did not stream out toward the shooter, but enveloped the victim. want to spin the optics more? Bro. The handgun dude was highly likely to be in the wrong. Patriot prayer was justified in trying to use mace if he ever attempted to deploy it at all. Cool? |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 11:29:49 AM EDT
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America has to rid itself of this cancer. Whatever it takes, it has to be rooted out and destroyed.
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Posted: 8/30/2020 11:30:28 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The better thing to do is to defend homes, people, businesses. Not run a fucking parade into a riot. The American people are appalled by mob rule. They understand that mobs are destroying cities and they are next. They are buying guns for the first time and changing votes. They are seeing democrats allowing the destruction to happen. The enemy has lost control of its brown shirt criminals and mentals. Clarity is important right now. Don't act like your enemy when they are making a mistake. Get them to repeat it. We are developing our own media now. We win the election first. They will go nuclear. Everyone will be ready to put this shit down then.  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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