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Posted: 7/22/2021 8:31:03 AM EDT
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I don’t mean to be insensitive, but this advice should go without saying.
I imagine you got the approval of site staff before posting your GFM link?? |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 8:32:47 AM EDT
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Did not think about the GFM link, will remove it.
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Posted: 7/22/2021 8:34:46 AM EDT
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They can afford ATVs but can't afford a funeral for their kid?
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Posted: 7/22/2021 8:36:27 AM EDT
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My son was riding a friends ATV with the young friend on the back. The accident broke my sons collarbone and the friends knee. The friend had to have 2 surgeries on his knee.
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Posted: 7/22/2021 8:37:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My son was riding a friends ATV with the young friend on the back. The accident broke my sons collarbone and the friends knee. The friend had to have 2 surgeries on his knee. They are dangerous in the hands of a child and most accidents don't make headlines. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 8:38:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They can afford ATVs but can't afford a funeral for their kid? Different people got different priorities. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 8:38:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They can afford ATVs but can't afford a funeral for their kid? You read my thoughts |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 8:39:55 AM EDT
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someone is buried every other damn day in this state due to ATV accidents ... on a monday it will be some 65 year old, 3 days latter it will be a teenaged boy, week later it will be a 30 year old female
it's a serious issue here and rampant ETA - we have many MANY small towns that you can drive through and up on the local fast-food place's sign it will say ATVs welcome in the drive through lol |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 8:40:22 AM EDT
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Back in 87 a good friend of mine was killed riding on the back of a atv with another friend of mine. He was 13.
ATV flipped. There was no chain guard and the machine landed on him and the chain and sprocket chewed up his face along with the weight crushing him. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 8:42:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: someone is buried every other damn day in this state due to ATV accidents ... on a monday it will be some 65 year old, 3 days latter it will be a teenaged boy, week later it will be a 30 year old female it's a serious issue here and rampant Same here, there have been a dozen accidents here the past year, in some cases the parents should have been charged when really young children were injured. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 8:45:00 AM EDT
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Buddy has them for all 3 of his younger boys and the oldest lost his rights to his dirt bike after he got caught riding without his chest protector and boots. All 3 younger boys are in full riding gear and supervised anytime the bikes are on.
The smallest of his collection is a Honda 50 and he installed a wireless remote kill. He can sit drinking beer in his lawn chair and if his youngest boy looks like he’s getting into trouble or heading towards the garage he just kills the motor and deals with it. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 8:45:14 AM EDT
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Way back in the 80s we had dirtbikes and 3 wheelers.
I was giving the neighborhood girls rides  when one sweet talked me into letting her drive. Big mistake! she nailed the throttle and couldn't steer with that straight axle, we went maybe 50 feet, hit the ditch, and she broke her leg |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 8:51:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They can afford ATVs but can't afford a funeral for their kid? |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 8:56:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They can afford ATVs but can't afford a funeral for their kid? Damn!!!!! That’s savage bro. True though. Besides who the fuck let’s a 6 year old ride an ATV. Probably can’t even wipe their own ass but parents are cool with them going 40+ Mph. Get them a go cart with a massive roll cage, harness and helmet like a normal fucking parent. When they roll the thing (which they will) just flip it upright and have a good laugh. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 8:58:21 AM EDT
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Yeah, don't let your kids drive Brodozers either............
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:00:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn!!!!! That’s savage bro. True though. Besides who the fuck let’s a 6 year old ride an ATV. Probably can’t even wipe their own ass but parents are cool with them going 40+ Mph. Get them a go cart with a massive roll cage, harness and helmet like a normal fucking parent. When they roll the thing (which they will) just flip it upright and have a good laugh. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They can afford ATVs but can't afford a funeral for their kid? Damn!!!!! That’s savage bro. True though. Besides who the fuck let’s a 6 year old ride an ATV. Probably can’t even wipe their own ass but parents are cool with them going 40+ Mph. Get them a go cart with a massive roll cage, harness and helmet like a normal fucking parent. When they roll the thing (which they will) just flip it upright and have a good laugh. Meh, would assume it’s pretty typical. Surprised funeral homes aren’t offering financing. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:01:13 AM EDT
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Ken’s and Karen’s rejoice for your thread is here !
Everything can kill you. Choose something fun ! |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:04:03 AM EDT
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life is dangerous. both of my kids ride and i have been riding since i was 4.
yes, dont let your 6yr old ride unsupervised.... |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:12:24 AM EDT
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My kids have all been riding unsupervised since around that age. They have chores to do, mostly feeding, and a 4 wheeler makes it a lot easier. They know they'll get beat if they act stupid, and they ride enough that it has become a work machine rather than a toy. Not everyone's kid is incompetent.
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:15:26 AM EDT
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Dirt bikes > atvs is the mindset for my kids. I think they are safer.
Once they outgrow their current models, I’m getting them UTV’s I’m just not a fan of kids in ATV’s. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:16:19 AM EDT
[#21]
My son races dirt bikes and I will not let him ride on an ATV. Those things are dangerous.
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:17:06 AM EDT
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I have worked at a Level 1 trauma center.
ATVs are flat out dangerous, especially for children. Use with extreme caution. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:17:55 AM EDT
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How I survived my youth on an ATC250R is a mystery to me.
Never let your kids ride unsupervised. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:21:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They can afford ATVs but can't afford a funeral for their kid? |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:21:48 AM EDT
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Grew up riding ATVs, my brother as well. No helmets, rarely supervised, through the woods, doing jumps, etc. It was the glorious 80s.
Needless to say we don't let our kids ride that much. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:22:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My son races dirt bikes and I will not let him ride on an ATV. Those things are dangerous. This^^ Dirt bikes don't have a natural tendency to roll. Dirt bikes weight 1/3 - 1/4 - 1/5 as much as an ATV. Most people have a fear and respect for dirt bikes, but think of ATV's as toys. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:24:41 AM EDT
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Kids should be supervised. Parent on ATV in front. Noob after parent. Then parent (or sensible older kid) in the rear. Let them learn skills slowly and when you can trust them not to kill themselves, then unsupervised.
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:26:10 AM EDT
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I'm not risk adverse and it blows my mind that a six year old would be driving an ATV. It's not clear whether the child in question was driving or not, but it's still risky to even be riding on the back.
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:28:59 AM EDT
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Back when I was a kid in the 80's, my neighbors let their younger son tear up the neighborhood on their 4-wheeler. Said 4-wheeler being one of the larger ones...really too big for him. He was a spoiled brat, and his parents let him get away with murder because he was "the baby". One day, he tried to run over my dog...fortunately, she dodged out of the way. My brother, his older brother, and I were all yelling at him as he was riding, and he had turned to look over his shoulder to yell back at us. He promptly ran head first into the mailbox, which knocked him completely off the machine. We about died laughing, and his mom came out and yelled at us for laughing at him.
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:33:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This^^ Dirt bikes don't have a natural tendency to roll. Dirt bikes weight 1/3 - 1/4 - 1/5 as much as an ATV. Most people have a fear and respect for dirt bikes, but think of ATV's as toys. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My son races dirt bikes and I will not let him ride on an ATV. Those things are dangerous. This^^ Dirt bikes don't have a natural tendency to roll. Dirt bikes weight 1/3 - 1/4 - 1/5 as much as an ATV. Most people have a fear and respect for dirt bikes, but think of ATV's as toys. I totally agree. My 4 and 8 year old both ride dirt bikes. ATV's and UTV's are a no-go. If you don't make a hill climb on a dirtbike you lay it down, turn it around and ride down. If you don't make it with 4 wheels there's a good chance you're rolling down the hill. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:34:54 AM EDT
[#31]
Damn shame.
 I’ve been riding 4-wheelers since about that age, but you have to be smart about it. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:36:58 AM EDT
[#32]
It's a dangerous world out there.
I'm amazed that I made it through my childhood. I did all sorts of dumb shit on my little Honda 50. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:38:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's a dangerous world out there. I'm amazed that I made it through my childhood. I did all sorts of dumb shit on my little Honda 50. Me too, I am lucky to be alive. Back when I was growing up natural selection weeded out the dumb or unlucky kids. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:43:35 AM EDT
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My wife’s family is from (far) East Texas. All the kids run around on ATVs there. My brother in law has a gnarly scar, and everybody knows somebody who died or got seriously maimed on one, yet you see more kids on them every day.
As kids we couldn’t afford ATVs… we just had horses, bicycles, and foot-power. Glad we stuck to safe stuff like chasing hogs and playing with rattlesnakes and stuff… |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:47:24 AM EDT
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I was always amazed at people putting their five and six year olds on ATVs alone.
They just lack the processing ability so that when they come around a corner on a trail they don't know what to do other than smash into the back of the SUV in front of them. Within a few minutes mom or dad catches up the the kid and what's left of their ATV. Happened more than once, thankful no head-on collisions. I guess it's really important to put the kid, who can't cut his own meat yet, on the back of an ATV. Is it possible that a five year old child lacks the ability to think like an adult? |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:48:22 AM EDT
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I get nervous anytime an adult wants to ride the one I use at my farm. With a couple of exceptions, I pretty much refuse to let kids ride it. The exceptions being a couple kids I know well that grew up on a farm and have been operating tractors and other equipment since they were old enough to sit in their parents laps.
Most people without experience literally have no idea how tippy those things can be. I've seen someone get on one after a good explanation of what to do and multiple exhortations to "take it really slow" and promptly roll it over. I think it is one of those things that if someone can survive the first hour without injury, then they might have a chance. Of course I grew up in the '80's where you were literally trying to drag your ass on the ground on the inside of the turn to keep your three-wheeler from rolling across the pasture. I'm 49, and I still find myself lustily eyeing the restored ATC250R's when they pop up for sale. ETA: Death machine of my dreams... One foot on a peg, one kind wedged against the side of the seat, ass hanging way out past the fender, rear-end of the bike coming around, opposite lock on the steering... I do miss being a kid.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:49:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Was it a brand new nice ATV, or a family hand me down, or a used $200 Chinese POS, or maybe not even theirs at all? |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:49:19 AM EDT
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Having responded to these crashes/ rollover incidents over many years, I can say we see most with 4 wheelers, far fewer injuries with traditional mini bikes.
The kids tend to fall away from the minibike but roll with and get crushed by the 4 wheeler. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:49:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: All 3 younger boys are in full riding gear and supervised anytime the bikes are on. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:50:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They can afford ATVs but can't afford a funeral for their kid? Maybe they also want a new truck or house, you know, to ease their grieving. I’m really cynical about GFM stuff capitalizing on a tragedy. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:52:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not risk adverse |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:52:51 AM EDT
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Darwin works in not so mysterious ways.
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:53:55 AM EDT
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We have two ATVs and a SxS. I let the kids ride them around our property in areas where I can see them.
I don't let them leave the property on them, unless with me or their mom. I try to keep them on back roads with little to now traffic or the local OHV park. I also started teaching my daughter to shoot a Ruger 10/22 as soon as she was big enough to shoulder it without too much wobble. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:54:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn!!!!! That’s savage bro. True though. Besides who the fuck let’s a 6 year old ride an ATV. Probably can’t even wipe their own ass but parents are cool with them going 40+ Mph. Get them a go cart with a massive roll cage, harness and helmet like a normal fucking parent. When they roll the thing (which they will) just flip it upright and have a good laugh. I have a Yamaha 80 and a Honda 125 for my two year old when she gets older, but she’ll start in the RZR170 with seatbelts and a cage. I despise polaris but someone gave me the rzr and I’m glad I’ll be able to start her in something with a cagE. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:54:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He promptly ran head first into the mailbox |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:54:52 AM EDT
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What makes ATVs so dangerous compared to motorcycles?
Is it the lack of riding techniques, Lack of safety gear? Are they inherently unstable? Seems like at lower speeds, they should be fine but I can see them getting out of control at higher speeds. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:55:19 AM EDT
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Once my boy is a little older, I'm going to get him one of these: Electric Kart
Roll cage with belts + helmet + 10mph limit + supervision at all times. I figure with those guidelines there isn't a while lot of trouble he can get in. |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 9:56:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As kids we couldn’t afford ATVs… we just had horses |
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Posted: 7/22/2021 10:00:23 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/22/2021 10:03:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Aren't horses much more expensive than ATVs? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: As kids we couldn’t afford ATVs… we just had horses If you’re talking about high dollar show ponies with expensive stables and tack and feed bills, sure. If you’re talking muttly pasture pals that mostly graze the day away and are ridden bareback or with handmedown tack, not at all. |
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