Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many.

Last 3 months of 2010 will be brutal for America. The storm that will hit in the last 3 months of the year will not destroy America but it will stagger and stun the nation. There will be a great disruption in the nations commerce, communications, transportations and supply lines that will impact America for years. Tell my people to use the first 6 months of 2010 to prepare for the last 3 months. A year of bloodshed , violence, terror and fear

. …………..my comment: I am unaware of any such event having occurred in the U.S in 2010. Also, what was especially brutal about the last 3 months of the year, that wasn’t in play during the first 9 months?

Rick will broadcast from a remote location.
He has peace about where God is sending him. Has too many enemies.
By end of 2010 Rick must leave USA to do the work
Rick Wiles will leave – will go somewhere else before end of 2010. America’s Hope tent meetings will take place first – he expects that will be his last ministry inside the borders of the USA. …………..

my comments: None of the above occurred. Rick Wiles stayed at his home in Florida. The explanation he gives now (refer to new Jan. 8 2011 broadcast, referenced below) is that he stayed because God told him he would finalize the America’s Hope tent project first, before leaving the country. …….Hmmmm, I’m pretty sure God knew that the tent project would not be completed in 2010. Also, I think it would be wise for him to  learn the difference between “enemies” and people who look at his words closely because they are presented to be from God.

In his May 24, 2010, broadcast, link : http://www.trunews.com/Audio/5_24_10_monday_trunews2.mp3 Mr. Wiles took a big step forward in clarifying the nature of this big event that was coming in 2010 that would stagger and change the face of the country, and cut communication and transportation lines, etc. (as stated in the Jan. 8 broadcast). He named it as specifically being a nuclear explosion. He made it clear to his listeners that if what the Holy Spirit told him in January 2010 proved to be wrong he would do the right thing and publicly announce that he will never again say the Lord spoke to him.  The following is taken word-for-word from the last 3 minutes of this May 24 broadcast:

“My friends, we’re on the verge of a nuclear explosion in this country – the Lord told me at the beginning of this year, January 8, 2010. I came out of a fast and walked into this studio and told you what the Holy Spirit told me, and I’m standing by it. If I did not hear from God during that week of fasting, then I’ll never hear God. And I hope I’m wrong, I hope I hope I hope I’m wrong. With all my heart I hope I’m wrong. I hope I’m totally humiliated and never prophesy again, because I don’t want what I saw to come true. But what I heard the Holy Spirit tell me during that week of fasting at the beginning of this year, was that we had three months to seek Him in prayer and fasting, to seek His face and He would give us a plan. We would have 6 months to prepare and the last 3 months of 2010 – He said we will need His mercy to get through the last 3 months. I’m going to stand by it. Again, if I didn’t hear God, then I can’t hear God. If that wasn’t God speaking to me then I will never again as long as I live say that the Lord spoke to me. And I’m telling you tonight that everything is lining up towards a World War this year. One of the things the Holy Spirit told me in January was that many people will die in 2010, including many Christians. And He said ‘do not mourn or grieve the death of so many Christians. It is my mercy, I am taking them out of this world as tribulation starts’. The time of tribulation is near. We are in the time of sorrows. The earth is groaning. The signs are everywhere – wars and rumors of wars, pestulence and plagues, famines. The Lord Jesus Christ is coming back, and the Church isn’t ready. Arouse yourself and prepare yourself, for the Lord is coming. Arise and wait for Him. Be prepared and tell everyone you know. Jesus Christ is coming.”

On January 8, 2011, Mr. Wiles came out with an “one year anniversary” broadcast to review the message given a year ago. link: http://www.trunews.com/Audio/1_07_11_friday_trunews2.mp3

I eagerly tuned in. Was this to be the occasion that Mr. Wiles kept his promise before God and his listeners to publicly admit error, and agree to never speak on behalf of the Lord again? No, this was not the case. Sadly, this opportunity to make things right was turned into a “panel discussion” with 5 guests about whether or not the original message had indeed been a true word from the Lord. And who was on the panel? One person I had never heard of, but two were frequent guests on his show, (Mr. Nathan Leal, and Mr. Augusto Perez, who are also heavily into the prophecy realm on the internet) and the other two were announced as members of Mr. Wiles’ Board of Directors. (I think the legal profession would refer to this as a “rigged jury.”)

In this anniversary broadcast, explanations were given as to why events in 2010 didn’t seem to concur with what the message had stated. It was offered that things “were set in motion” in 2010, which would not be brought to fruition until a later date. It was offered that the “big event” that the Holy Spirit told him about was the body scanners and body searches occurring in the nation’s airports. It was offered that Mr. Wiles never left the country in 2010 because the start of the America’s Hope project was delayed.

In brief, Mr. Wiles fell miles short of admitting any error.

Having read his books, The Final Quest and The Call[1], I have come to the conclusion that the teachings of Rick Joyner, and those of Morningstar Ministries, are dangerous and destructive. This paper is an attempt to expose these teachings and compare them to the light of scripture, in hopes that people may avoid suffering the shipwreck of their faith (1 Timothy 1:19). I believe that Joyner’s teachings are destructive because Rick Joyner is a false prophet who attacks the sufficiency of scripture, teaches a higher life pietism, and propagates “Later Rain / Manifest Sons of God” theology.

When I first started reading Joyner’s books, I was taken back by the number of times he described his conversations with the dead. According to www.wikipedia.org a spirit medium is “an individual who claims the ability to receive messages from spirits, ghosts, or other discorporate entities, or claims that he or she can channel such entities -- that is, write or speak in the voice of these entities rather than in the medium's own voice.”[2] By this definition, Rick Joyner is a spirit medium because he claims the ability to receive messages from the dead. In The Final Quest I counted 11 occurrences where Rick Joyner describes conversations with the dead and/or dictates the words of the dead to his readers (see pages 65, 86, 87, 92, 95, 99, 107, 111, 114, 131, and 150). In The Call I counted 7 occurrences (see pages 42, 45, 71, 72, 211, 212, and 213). I shall quote just one such conversation so you can get the flavor of his visions.

The Bible is explicitly clear on what God thinks of speaking to the dead. Leviticus 19:31 says, “Give no regard to mediums and familiar spirits; do not seek after them, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God.” Leviticus 20:6 also says, “And the person who turns to mediums and familiar spirits, to prostitute himself with them, I will set My face against that person and cut him off from his people." Deuteronomy 18:10-12 says,

“There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. For all who do these things are an abomination to the LORD, and because of these abominations the LORD your God drives them out from before you.”

Rick Joyner is trying to “entice” his followers from the way that God has commanded us to walk. He leads people into sin with his necromancy, drawing them away from the LORD. Isaiah 8:19-20 also forbids mediums

Not only does Rick Joyner relentlessly attack the sufficiency of scripture, he also attacks verbal plenary inspiration of scripture when he describes one of the different types of prophetic revelation.

I believe that this was probably experienced by the apostles as they wrote the New Testament epistles. This will give us great confidence, but it is still a level where we can be influenced by our prejudices, doctrines, etc. This is why I believe, in certain matters, Paul would say that he was giving his opinion, but that he thought he had [the agreement of] the Spirit of the Lord.[7]

Rick Joyner claims that, “Never are we told that prophecy is infallible, which is why we must judge prophecy.”[10] On the contrary, Peter tells us in 2 Peter 1:21 “for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.” All true prophecy is without error because a true prophet speaks the words given to him by the Holy Spirit.

At the end of the summer,
As the season reaches a climax,
JADE HELM will come to life again,
Surely it will be brought back.

The fall season will bring,
another election year,
But by this time our nation,
Will be firmly gripped in fear.

Barack Hussein Obama,
Will stay seated in his chair,
No Democrat nor Republican,
will find themselves his heir.

2017 will follow next,
When it comes rolling around,
The changes will be different,
They will surely be profound.

America will have seen,
Destruction and devastation,
I will hold nothing back,
I will show no hesitation.

Disease and pestilence,
Will surely grip this land,
But My people do not worry,
It’s all part of My plan.

Watch the hand of Islam,
They will shout a battle cry,
A day of terror is coming,
And many will surely die.

Now look upon the map,
And look upon it well,
You will see trouble landed,
Where American cities fell.

Now woe unto you cities,
And you states shown below,
You have angered God in Heaven,
And made yourself His foe.

Woe unto the city,
Of the Bears, Cubs, and Bulls.
Woe to San Fransisco,
You dare mock me, you fools!

I will destroy both of you,
In the hour of My fury,
You have been found guilty,
Yes, by my Heavenly Jury.

Woe unto Las Vegas,
Seattle, and the Big D,
Plagues, famine, and destruction
Are coming soon, you’ll see.

Woe unto New Orleans,
And even Florida too,
When I shoot arrows of destruction,
You shall surely be through.

Woe unto the city,
Known for the Liberty Bell,
I will take away your freedoms,
And you will see much hell.

Woe unto Baltimore,
Woe to Washington DC,
Woe to you wicked leaders,
For you must answer to Me.

I will destroy these cities,
With one single attack,
I will shoot arrows of destruction,
And I will hold nothing back.

Woe unto Boston, New York City,
And even California too,
You do not worship Me,
You say, “I answer to who?”

Half of California,
Shall be thrown into the sea,
And New York City,
The same fate it will be.

Oh Boston, Oh Boston,
Your arrogance will be no more,
I shall wipe you off the map,
You big arrogant whore.

An asteroid will strike,
In the Caribbean sea,
All around the world,
Tsunamis must be.

Earthquakes will come,
And will divide this land,
That we might not forget,
God deals with a heavy hand.

You shall look to the east,
And see Russians coming here,
You shall look to the west,
And see China causing fear.

They shall invade this land,
And take over this place,
America once a golden cup,
Has become an utter disgrace.

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I think we can have  wonderful conversation around this if we remain humble, but I am at significant divergence with you here.

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ALWAYS use deep discernment when listening to prophesy. The devil will give you 90% truth mixed with 10% lies if he can lead you astray and advance his cause. If the motive is fortune or fame, ignore it.  Having said that there are those who were/are blessed with supernatural gifts in the last days (the post Resurrection times in which we are living).   Compilation of many good (and some bad) ones at this site:  https://www.mysticsofthechurch.com/


17And it shall come to pass, in the last days, (saith the Lord), I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy: and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams.

18And upon my servants indeed and upon my handmaids will I pour out in those days of my spirit: and they shall prophesy.

19And I will shew wonders in the heaven above, and signs on the earth beneath: blood and fire, and vapour of smoke.

20The sun shall be turned into darkness and the moon into blood, before the great and manifest day of the Lord to come.

21And it shalt come to pass, that whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

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So can we only discuss "Christian" false prophets. In quotes because I don't consider them to actually be, regardless of what they may claim. Or can we discuss false prophets of any religion?

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You say that but you probably noticed the edit above from medicman. I mentioned one annnnd that was the result.

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General rule of thumb, do not disparage another religion.

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To be transparent my comments were about Muhammad.

Perhaps in a more analytical academic sense it could be done?

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In all humbleness, Peter says those exact verses in Joel were being fulfilled at Pentecost (Acts 2:14-21).  

This points to a larger theme that can get conflated when understanding prophecy. The "last days" as the New Testament writers considered it were the last days of the Mosaic Sacrifices terminating in the destruction of the temple (AD70). For example Hebrews 1:1-2 ("these last days"), Acts 2:16-17 (Pentecost being the last days), and 1 John 2:18 ("the last hour").

If we consider ourselves to be nearing a prophetic milestone, I think we are approaching "the latter days" rather than "the last days".