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Posted: 5/18/2020 9:29:18 AM EDT
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The usual response is Starting Strength and Stronglifts 5x5.
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Posted: 5/18/2020 9:32:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MarkHatfield: The usual response is Starting Strength and Stronglifts 5x5. How much O lifting in either SS or SL? |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 9:33:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MarkHatfield: The usual response is Starting Strength and Stronglifts 5x5. That doesn't help me even a little. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 11:08:31 AM EDT
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To learn the movements:
Old Pendlay 1 of 3 - follow the youtube for the C&J  Snatch, Part 1, How To, Olympic Weightlifting Juggernaught - Max Aita  Beginners Guide to Snatching with Meg Squats | JTSstrength.com Greg Everett - Catalyst https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOe24b2O8eoeHz9fwWuKRVA Just go down the rabbit hole watching training and competition videos, some great stuff out there. Check out the old Iron Mind vids, lots of 80's and 90's lifters. Programming is a little tougher, here's a couple "starter" programs. A lot of places are doing online programming and coaching, which I'd look into if you're serious, you really need good coaching. Pendlay Beginner https://www.reddit.com/r/weightlifting/comments/8lkz6o/glenn_pendlay_3day_beginner_routine/ Catalyst - lots of good free stuff, but even more paid https://www.catalystathletics.com/article/131/Starter-Program-for-Catalyst-Athletics-Online-Workouts/ Big coaching/gym names in American weightlifting, Bob Takano, Cal Strength Dave Spitz, Juggernaut Max Aita, John Waxman, John Broz, Dan John, Glenn Pendlay, Danny Camargo. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 11:43:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tanren37: To learn the movements: Old Pendlay 1 of 3 - follow the youtube for the C&J  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6SjuAOjMEkJuggernaught - Max Aita https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2t9xkKzATUGreg Everett - Catalyst https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOe24b2O8eoeHz9fwWuKRVA Just go down the rabbit hole watching training and competition videos, some great stuff out there. Check out the old Iron Mind vids, lots of 80's and 90's lifters. Programming is a little tougher, here's a couple "starter" programs. A lot of places are doing online programming and coaching, which I'd look into if you're serious, you really need good coaching. Pendlay Beginner https://www.reddit.com/r/weightlifting/comments/8lkz6o/glenn_pendlay_3day_beginner_routine/ Catalyst - lots of good free stuff, but even more paid https://www.catalystathletics.com/article/131/Starter-Program-for-Catalyst-Athletics-Online-Workouts/ Big coaching/gym names in American weightlifting, Bob Takano, Cal Strength Dave Spitz, Juggernaut Max Aita, John Waxman, John Broz, Dan John, Glenn Pendlay, Danny Camargo. I watched the Meg Squats videos with Max last week. I think I need to work on shoulder mobility though, I have always had trouble getting through the window with overhead presses, I was messing around with snatch grip behind the neck presses with a steel pipe and could get it back there but it was tight. It's mostly curiosity for me at the moment, I can't do overhead work in my basement very well, so I've never gotten a chance to try it. I have to press between floor joists, and even then sometimes I clip one. If I can get my barn floor poured I'll have a pace to move my rack and plenty of room to both lift overhead and drop the bar. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 11:50:53 AM EDT
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Yeah, what they said.
If you have a university program nearby, maybe contact them and see if they might help you out. At least be able to send them vids, and offer a little critique. When I first tried overhead squats my shoulders were so tight it was about 3 months before I could even start to put weight on it and maintain balance. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 12:02:28 PM EDT
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I like Greg Everett's stuff. I used a lot of it when it was free, and I lifted up there a few times.
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Posted: 5/18/2020 12:02:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MarkHatfield: The usual response is Starting Strength and Stronglifts 5x5. lol |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 12:06:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sitdwnandhngon: I watched the Meg Squats videos with Max last week. I think I need to work on shoulder mobility though, I have always had trouble getting through the window with overhead presses, I was messing around with snatch grip behind the neck presses with a steel pipe and could get it back there but it was tight. It's mostly curiosity for me at the moment, I can't do overhead work in my basement very well, so I've never gotten a chance to try it. I have to press between floor joists, and even then sometimes I clip one. If I can get my barn floor poured I'll have a pace to move my rack and plenty of room to both lift overhead and drop the bar. A good warm up with the pipe could be: Muscle Snatch Snatch grip BTN press (Klokov press) Overhead squat This will open up your shoulders/chest, condition the wrists, and get you used to a bar overhead when squatting, add in a snatch balance and/or sots press too. Shoulder dislocates are good, start wide and narrow the grip as you loosen up. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 12:08:43 PM EDT
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I will also add that despite all the shit talking, you can actually sometimes find some crossfit coaches that are pretty decent at teaching the lifts- especially at the beginner level. Once you get intermediate, there's very few...but to learn the basics you may want to try to check that out and do a few drop ins for weightlifting classes because you DO need some face to face instruction.
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Posted: 5/18/2020 12:15:23 PM EDT
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Might want some jerk blocks for that stuff. They are expensive, though. You could build your own.
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Posted: 5/18/2020 12:26:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Steve_T_M: Might want some jerk blocks for that stuff. They are expensive, though. You could build your own. They're great, but I've been weightlifting for years without them...a beginner definitely doesn't need them until he decides he wants to pursue it more seriously. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 5:19:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: They're great, but I've been weightlifting for years without them...a beginner definitely doesn't need them until he decides he wants to pursue it more seriously. Exactly. They're more for addressing specific weaknesses or overloading parts of the movement. You can always stack your bumpers and lift off them. Gotta post some off block lifts if we talking about it.  Ilya Ilyin 205 kg snatch off blocks |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 7:51:27 PM EDT
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Look up the Prilepin chart.
For Olympic lifting, do no more than 5 reps and stay above 70% of 1RM. More information, pm me. |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 1:11:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HeyCoach: Look up the Prilepin chart. For Olympic lifting, do no more than 5 reps and stay above 70% of 1RM. More information, pm me. What fascinates me is how deep and long most state sanctioned training programs go throughout the years (and have developed). Both the Russians and Chinese having vetting programs starting from very young ages in order to guide young athletes into fields which they respond to. I believe there's a huge gap in American vs. other countries in weightlifting training. While other countries vet 6 year olds and begin training in the weightlifting movements, Americans don't experience it until their Crossfit 20's, putting their bodies at a substantial disadvantage. |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 6:45:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tanren37: What fascinates me is how deep and long most state sanctioned training programs go throughout the years (and have developed). Both the Russians and Chinese having vetting programs starting from very young ages in order to guide young athletes into fields which they respond to. I believe there's a huge gap in American vs. other countries in weightlifting training. While other countries vet 6 year olds and begin training in the weightlifting movements, Americans don't experience it until their Crossfit 20's, putting their bodies at a substantial disadvantage. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tanren37: Originally Posted By HeyCoach: Look up the Prilepin chart. For Olympic lifting, do no more than 5 reps and stay above 70% of 1RM. More information, pm me. What fascinates me is how deep and long most state sanctioned training programs go throughout the years (and have developed). Both the Russians and Chinese having vetting programs starting from very young ages in order to guide young athletes into fields which they respond to. I believe there's a huge gap in American vs. other countries in weightlifting training. While other countries vet 6 year olds and begin training in the weightlifting movements, Americans don't experience it until their Crossfit 20's, putting their bodies at a substantial disadvantage. Probably for the same reason we don't have any big Cricket or Rugby teams, it's just not as popular here compared other sports, so we don't prioritize it. Kids are put into soccer, baseball, football and gymnastics. |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 8:47:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: lol Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By MarkHatfield: The usual response is Starting Strength and Stronglifts 5x5. lol what's really funny is that Olympic Lifting was the title, not in the post, so it's not like he missed it in the post. Literally had to see it to open the thread |
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