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Posted: 9/30/2022 11:05:09 AM EST
Im sure its been covered previously but how do these compare to Zenith or PTRs?
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Posted: 9/30/2022 4:40:25 PM EST
Bought an AP5-P yesterday. Should be at my FFL Tuesday, according to UPS.
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Posted: 9/30/2022 11:03:38 PM EST
I dunno, but the six pack of MKE mags from Atlantic come out to maybe $44 each after shipping.
Seemed pretty reasonable, and their shipping has been vy fast for me. |
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Posted: 10/1/2022 12:42:46 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Southernman077: I purchased an AP5 and AP5P back when this thread started. I didn't like the right handed grip and selector, so I purchased the SEF navy lowers and ambi selectors for both. I replaced the one on my AP5 with no problems. Just today, I got around to replacing the grip on my AP5P. Everything seemed to go together smoothly. After I finished, I tried to insert an unloaded mag. I have quite a bit of difficulty getting the mag in. It seems like it is binding on something. Maybe the paddle mag release? Has anyone here had this problem? So nobody has any idea on my problem? |
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Posted: 10/1/2022 8:49:05 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Southernman077: So nobody has any idea on my problem? You are rocking the magazine back slightly, correct? Does it Do the same thing with the grip/trigger group removed? |
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Posted: 10/1/2022 12:52:48 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By 2JokersWild: Im sure its been covered previously but how do these compare to Zenith or PTRs? These are basically the old Zenith imports |
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Posted: 10/1/2022 2:09:19 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By WildBoar: These are basically the old Zenith imports Correct. But I think he was asking in comparison to the new ZF5s they are making now. And I have no idea, havent gotten to mess with a new Zenith yet. I prefer the MKE to the PTRs but thats more personal preference than anything substantial. |
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Posted: 10/1/2022 9:51:18 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Jm11513: You are rocking the magazine back slightly, correct? Does it Do the same thing with the grip/trigger group removed? It was fine before I replaced the grip. It got a little better when I removed the pin near the magwell. I am gonna put the old lower back in and troubleshoot. I was hoping the fix was something easy. |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 2:27:28 AM EST
Tempting
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Posted: 10/3/2022 8:31:43 AM EST
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Posted: 10/5/2022 10:50:02 AM EST
[Last Edit: Solo_]
Bumping it up - just got that Airsoft stock from that brand and installed it.
Comes with a (apparently real) buffer that you have to heat and insert. Done that, worked like a charm, went in in a sturdy way, love this thang! (yes, time will tell how sturdy it is and if it self disintegrates or not etc.) ETA before you guys start asking, here's the link to what it is, where it is  Ho Ho Ho (Airsoft A3 stock) by Solo__, on Flickr |
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:04:57 AM EST
Guess its time to find some money.
I had a 94 back in the 80's. I sold it to fund a project. Boy was that stupid. |
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Posted: 10/5/2022 11:06:10 AM EST
[Last Edit: LOS]
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Posted: 10/5/2022 3:45:29 PM EST
[Last Edit: Undaunted]
Okay...out of the blue, I got a call last night. 2 Silencer Co. Omega 300's came in. I'd almost forgotten about them.
I e-filed for 2 more and a 9mm obsidian a few months ago. Any reason not to mount an Omega to the AP5 shorty?? The other will be dedicated to a 8.3" .300 BLK. |
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Posted: 10/5/2022 3:53:52 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Undaunted: Okay...out of the blue, I got a call last night. 2 Silencer Co. Omega 300's came in. I'd almost forgotten about them. I e-filed for 2 more and a 9mm obsidian a few months ago. Any reason not to mount an Omega to the AP5 shorty?? The other will be dedicated to a 8.3" .300 BLK. Other than 9mm > 7.62mm? Be sure to take video the first time you shoot it. 
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Posted: 10/5/2022 5:22:55 PM EST
[Last Edit: WildBoar]
Bought one but because of the original APS sale thread.
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UT, USA
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Posted: 10/5/2022 5:48:49 PM EST
You guys are a bunch of enablers.
 …..9” ordered |
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Posted: 10/5/2022 6:04:49 PM EST
[Last Edit: cancard]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Autostrada_Pilot: You guys are a bunch of enablers. …..9” ordered You’re welcome. Now hit my poll!!! 
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Posted: 10/5/2022 6:43:52 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By GySgt_D: I dunno, but the six pack of MKE mags from Atlantic come out to maybe $44 each after shipping. Seemed pretty reasonable, and their shipping has been vy fast for me. This is what I went with, thanks. |
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Posted: 10/6/2022 8:13:36 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Cowbell: Other than 9mm > 7.62mm? Be sure to take video the first time you shoot it. Well shit. The wait continues. |
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Posted: 10/6/2022 8:41:41 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Solo_: Bumping it up - just got that Airsoft stock from that brand and installed it. Comes with a (apparently real) buffer that you have to heat and insert. Done that, worked like a charm, went in in a sturdy way, love this thang! (yes, time will tell how sturdy it is and if it self disintegrates or not etc.) ETA before you guys start asking, here's the link to what it is, where it is https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52406051212_34abebd449_h.jpgHo Ho Ho (Airsoft A3 stock) by Solo__, on Flickr @Solo_ Did you have to modify that stock to make it work? |
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Posted: 10/6/2022 9:10:15 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Lancelot: @Solo_ Did you have to modify that stock to make it work? Not a thing. Nothing. Plug and play. |
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Posted: 10/6/2022 7:39:02 PM EST
Quote History @LOS That's exactly the look I want for my AP5-P. Submitted my eForm 1 a week ago. What optic is that? |
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Posted: 10/6/2022 8:30:11 PM EST
Quote History What is the shroud over your front trunnion area? |
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Posted: 10/6/2022 8:32:02 PM EST
[Last Edit: LOS]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roland-G23: @LOS That's exactly the look I want for my AP5-P. Submitted my eForm 1 a week ago. What optic is that? It’s a HOLOSUN HS503R. It has the Circle/Dot reticle. I luv this optic. |
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Posted: 10/6/2022 8:51:49 PM EST
[Last Edit: LOS]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MudEagle: What is the shroud over your front trunnion area? I’ve named it a “THS” (trunnion heat shield). I made it [out of Kydex] after my 1st trip to the range with the AP5-P. I fired about 220 rounds and the trunnion got very hot. I don’t like to wear gloves so I had to be extra careful not to touch the trunnion. I couldn’t even place my hand on the magwell. The THS solves the issue and It snaps on/off easy. Also worked great with my AP5 when it had a slim hand guard.   |
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Posted: 10/7/2022 11:06:12 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Mitikoki: Is this normal quality on MKE? To me it looks like crap, my Ptr looks perfect, I just got this last week and I took it apart to clean it since I’m taking it shooting tomorrow to break it in. Should I shoot it or send it back to century before shooting it? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/222092/B6BD4762-D1F5-49F6-824C-9299EC239DB9_jpe-2543115.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/222092/4DE4CC05-3224-4868-8440-96DD8F20139B_jpe-2543116.JPG Mine didn't look like that. It's all just plain black. |
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Posted: 10/7/2022 12:09:04 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By LOS: I’ve named it a “THS” (trunnion heat shield). I made it [out of Kydex] after my 1st trip to the range with the AP5-P. I fired about 220 rounds and the trunnion got very hot. I don’t like to wear gloves so I had to be extra careful not to touch the trunnion. I couldn’t even place my hand on the magwell. The THS solves the issue and It snaps on/off easy. Also worked great with my AP5 when it had a slim hand guard. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1200x800q90/924/fcdsOy.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/923/5PvRja.png You really need to sell the THS. |
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Posted: 10/7/2022 2:50:24 PM EST
[Last Edit: Solo_]
...went ahead and tested that Airsoft A3 "stock" - my AP5 is a SBR.
Worked like a charm. Added my still in jail SilencerCo Hybrid 46M, tri-lugged. A charm. Everything runs like a charm. Brief video, nothing special - just an old guy shooting an MKE AP5 suppressed ETA ammo was just cheap 115gr range ammo!  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 10/7/2022 2:52:29 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Solo_: ...went ahead and tested that Airsoft A3 "stock" - my AP5 is a SBR. Worked like a charm. Added my still in jail SilencerCo Hybrid 46M, tri-lugged. A charm. Everything runs like a charm. Brief video, nothing special - just an old guy shooting an MKE AP5 suppressed  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slbnFpBlWiYExcellent..! |
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Posted: 10/7/2022 2:56:49 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By LOS: Excellent..!  |
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Posted: 10/7/2022 3:04:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: D_Man]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Solo_: ...went ahead and tested that Airsoft A3 "stock" - my AP5 is a SBR. Worked like a charm. Added my still in jail SilencerCo Hybrid 46M, tri-lugged. A charm. Everything runs like a charm. Brief video, nothing special - just an old guy shooting an MKE AP5 suppressed ETA ammo was just cheap 115gr range ammo! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slbnFpBlWiYI like my MKE A3, but it's damn heavy and the aluminum arms on the VFC stock sound somewhat appealing. 
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Posted: 10/7/2022 3:09:10 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By 303_enfield: You really need to sell the THS. I've actually sold a few. Send a PM if interested. |
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Posted: 10/7/2022 3:18:33 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By D_Man: When it's extended, any semblance of wobble, up/down or left/right? I like my MKE A3, but it's damn heavy and the aluminum arms on the VFC stock sound somewhat appealing. Then I have the KES stock as well - on par with both I'd say for a fraction of the price. Now the question is, will it continue to be working like this or will it slowly loosen up and get undone? There's a couple of guys around here who have over 2k rounds on theirs and they claim unchanged. As it was... so that's a good thing! We shall see but still, even considering it can serve only for photo opportunities a-la Die Hard... I'd still buy it again and again! |
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Posted: 10/7/2022 3:47:37 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Solo_: Nothing. No wobble, literally maybe 1mm - on par with my (4 times as expensive) B&T stock (have one brace and one stock as of now, brace going to go up for sale shortly). Then I have the KES stock as well - on par with both I'd say for a fraction of the price. Now the question is, will it continue to be working like this or will it slowly loosen up and get undone? There's a couple of guys around here who have over 2k rounds on theirs and they claim unchanged. As it was... so that's a good thing! We shall see but still, even considering it can serve only for photo opportunities a-la Die Hard... I'd still buy it again and again! I just noticed in your last pic, and I think in your video too, your optic rail is not mounted correctly, it's too far back and must be bound against the receiver walls. The clamping bits should be bearing against those little angled mounts on the receiver. |
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Posted: 10/7/2022 6:41:23 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By D_Man: Thanks. I just noticed in your last pic, and I think in your video too, your optic rail is not mounted correctly, it's too far back and must be bound against the receiver walls. The clamping bits should be bearing against those little angled mounts on the receiver. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_Man: Originally Posted By Solo_: Nothing. No wobble, literally maybe 1mm - on par with my (4 times as expensive) B&T stock (have one brace and one stock as of now, brace going to go up for sale shortly). Then I have the KES stock as well - on par with both I'd say for a fraction of the price. Now the question is, will it continue to be working like this or will it slowly loosen up and get undone? There's a couple of guys around here who have over 2k rounds on theirs and they claim unchanged. As it was... so that's a good thing! We shall see but still, even considering it can serve only for photo opportunities a-la Die Hard... I'd still buy it again and again! I just noticed in your last pic, and I think in your video too, your optic rail is not mounted correctly, it's too far back and must be bound against the receiver walls. The clamping bits should be bearing against those little angled mounts on the receiver. @Solo_ Absolutely, I agree! Your forward rail mount is partially blocking your ejection port. Any FTEs? |
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Posted: 10/7/2022 7:02:40 PM EST
Another 150 rounds through it yesterday. Still zero malfunctions. All with MKE mags, Win nato, and blazer brass 115 grain. Guess we’re pushing 600-700 rounds now?
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Posted: 10/7/2022 9:08:08 PM EST
Originally Posted By D_Man: Thanks. I just noticed in your last pic, and I think in your video too, your optic rail is not mounted correctly, it's too far back and must be bound against the receiver walls. The clamping bits should be bearing against those little angled mounts on the receiver. Originally Posted By Saint_Peter: @Solo_ Absolutely, I agree! Your forward rail mount is partially blocking your ejection port. Any FTEs? I changed that mount recently and I had completely overlooked that - thanks! Changing it now (nope, NO FTEs, nothing!)
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Posted: 10/7/2022 10:15:28 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Southernman077: It was fine before I replaced the grip. It got a little better when I removed the pin near the magwell. I am gonna put the old lower back in and troubleshoot. I was hoping the fix was something easy. Could be a chance the front pin tabs on the new lower have flashing, or are oversized. Maybe file down the front edge a bit. |
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Posted: 10/7/2022 10:17:23 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Solo_: Bumping it up - just got that Airsoft stock from that brand and installed it. Comes with a (apparently real) buffer that you have to heat and insert. Done that, worked like a charm, went in in a sturdy way, love this thang! (yes, time will tell how sturdy it is and if it self disintegrates or not etc.) ETA before you guys start asking, here's the link to what it is, where it is https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52406051212_34abebd449_h.jpgHo Ho Ho (Airsoft A3 stock) by Solo__, on Flickr Nice! 
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Posted: 10/8/2022 1:17:54 PM EST
[Last Edit: Solo_]
... thank you
Now with B&T Stock (this is the actual stock).  B&T Stock AP5 by Solo__, on Flickr B&T Stock wide forearm AP5 by Solo__, on Flickr
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Posted: 10/8/2022 5:50:02 PM EST
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Posted: 10/8/2022 6:10:59 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Cowbell: It definitely does not like 115 grainers Ran fine with my 124 and 147 grain loads https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/259822/9A838C55-370D-425B-9512-AC1943B27203_jpe-2556001.JPG |
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Posted: 10/8/2022 6:43:37 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Solo_: Matter of time, it will. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Solo_: Originally Posted By Cowbell: It definitely does not like 115 grainers Ran fine with my 124 and 147 grain loads https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/259822/9A838C55-370D-425B-9512-AC1943B27203_jpe-2556001.JPG I need to put a stock on it. Stupid $200 |
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Posted: 10/8/2022 6:58:17 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Cowbell: I need to put a stock on it. Stupid $200 |
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Posted: 10/8/2022 9:07:33 PM EST
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Posted: 10/8/2022 10:17:32 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Cowbell: It definitely does not like 115 grainers Ran fine with my 124 and 147 grain loads https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/259822/9A838C55-370D-425B-9512-AC1943B27203_jpe-2556001.JPG |
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Posted: 10/10/2022 1:05:25 PM EST
Getting ready for a NV run and gun event in a couple weeks. I'll be shooting my MKE one night.
Shot the Trex Arms 50 round carbine course of fire to knock the dust off a bit. 47.10 seconds, 194 points for a hit factor of 4.12. 35 As, 13 Cs, 2 Ms. Should have been 1 mike, didn't check mag before last string and had 11 in the gun when I needed 12. Should have been over 4.5 hit factor if that M had been an A instead. Woulda, coulda, shoulda.  Failed To Load Title  
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Posted: 10/10/2022 4:53:42 PM EST
[Last Edit: D_Man]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74novaman: Getting ready for a NV run and gun event in a couple weeks. I'll be shooting my MKE one night. Shot the Trex Arms 50 round carbine course of fire to knock the dust off a bit. 47.10 seconds, 194 points for a hit factor of 4.12. 35 As, 13 Cs, 2 Ms. Should have been 1 mike, didn't check mag before last string and had 11 in the gun when I needed 12. Should have been over 4.5 hit factor if that M had been an A instead. Woulda, coulda, shoulda. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzVp3LThMCEhttps://i.imgur.com/JRlwM6C.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ObVI4ee.jpg I've similarly been playing around with a night time setup on my AP5 with some spare bits in the toy bin...  |
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Posted: 10/10/2022 5:14:00 PM EST
[Last Edit: GySgt_D]
Ordered a Magpul selector, Pakistani OD green lower, and some matching magpuls last night.
 Attached FileWould be nice if I could find an OD green wide forend... I suppose I could just paint a black one, but I'd rather not. Vy tempted to get a Surefire 1000 lumen forend, but they are just so stupid expensive. The left-hand side scope mount pads are so very slight on my AP5, that I'm doubting their usability. Really want to mount a RX34 that I have sitting around on it... |
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