New Chinese Graphene ceramic armor that stops .50 cal

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Posted: 11/9/2018 5:58:41 PM EDT

This was showcased in last week's Zuhai air show. The last time I worn body armor was 20 years ago. So, how's this comparing to our stuff?

The manufacture claims that 20mm thickness stop 12.7mm rd, 30mm thickness stops 14.5mm/23mm rd and 50mmn thickness stops 30mm rd. Rumored that the Z-10 pilot cabin will be protected by 50mm of this.

The manufacturer said they could make this in to SAPI size vest insert for under 6.5 pound per plate, I am assuming it's in 20mm thickness. Which seems to be heavy to me. As for the cost, the maker being an aerospace company said it will be very expensive. Something about costing half a year of salary of a PLA NCO, which will make it $1100+ for a set of body armor inserts.

Posted: 11/9/2018 5:59:46 PM EDT

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PLA NCO’s make 2200 a year? Wow.

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:01:24 PM EDT

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Graphene is some amazing stuff, makes great batteries too

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:02:29 PM EDT

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People dont think China still be transitioning from 3rd to 2nd world but they do.

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:03:08 PM EDT

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I can't wait for the day they can make the stuff cheaply/easily, the possibilities and potential applications are endless.

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:05:38 PM EDT

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If I have the misfortune of connecting with a 50BMG, I'd rather explode.

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:06:30 PM EDT

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Sure

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:06:38 PM EDT

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Not sure stopping it really helps. At 15+ kJ, that's about 50 times as much energy as a punch. That's going to produce pretty substantial internal trauma even without penetration.

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:08:17 PM EDT

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Maybe I’m wrong but the Kinetic energy from .50 cal @ 1000 (4000+ ftpds) yards would fuck you up even with no penitratipn.

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:08:31 PM EDT

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Yes, that's the base pay, not including cola and other benefits. They figured out about 20 years ago when they started to build a real NCO corp, they have to pay a living wage.

Btw, the Tibet garrison duty gets 2.5-3x the basic pay. The Southsea island garrison, the Xinjing duty get 2x the pay.

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:09:02 PM EDT

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What US Company did China steal this from?

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:09:14 PM EDT

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Its for vehicles (think cockpits). I dont think theyre expecting to stop a 50 on your chest.

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:09:19 PM EDT

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They're gonna die anyways from whiplash.

Also, I don't think I want to know how China tested this product.

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:09:48 PM EDT

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Getting beat to death by ma deuce doesn't sound like a good time.

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:10:48 PM EDT

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You'll live!

But

your organs will look and jiggle like a cup of jello

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:10:49 PM EDT

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Jesus Christ, nobody on this website reads anything.

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:11:36 PM EDT

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Would this stop multiple .338 lapua hits?

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:11:54 PM EDT

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My shoes have graphene in them

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:12:18 PM EDT

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Well, at least you might get to have an open casket funeral.

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:12:28 PM EDT

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China? When will we see it for sale on eBay?

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:12:29 PM EDT

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The Taiwanese have a Level III hardplate that is .25 inch thick and only weighs 2.2 pounds.
But, it will not stop 5.56mm M855 so they didn't try to sell in US.......

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:13:44 PM EDT

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this.

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:14:00 PM EDT

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I wonder how much graphene costs.
If you can up-armor a vehicle with graphene/carbon fiber plates, that would be a major weight savings over steel plates.

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:14:02 PM EDT

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Wow, that brings me back, was that here or on Glock Talk in the early 2000s?

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:15:39 PM EDT

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Pretty much... Chinese propaganda? ????!

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:16:02 PM EDT

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Wow, that brings me back, was that here or on Glock Talk in the early 2000s?

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Pretty sure it was here, but I might be mistaken. It's always the first thing I think about when these threads start.

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:16:33 PM EDT

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How about a helmet/armor plates that are also a battery?

That could power tactical visors or power suit, etc.

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:16:43 PM EDT

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How thick/heavy does it need to be to stop 7.62x54 AP?

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:17:47 PM EDT

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Yes, Go ahead and tape one to your back.

- eta, Its only about a months salary for a mall security officer. Easily affordable.

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:18:20 PM EDT

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Pretty sure even if that vest manages to stop a round center mass it won't to shit for the internal damage and it'd probably stop your heart lol.

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:20:48 PM EDT

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Lol yup

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:21:00 PM EDT

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Posted: 11/9/2018 6:21:24 PM EDT

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You would probably die from the blunt force trauma that a .50 would create even if the round was stopped.

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:21:31 PM EDT

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Check Alibaba

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:24:52 PM EDT

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Most of the people in this thread would die from the swelling in their brain if they read any of the article, or even just the OP.

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:25:20 PM EDT

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A bunch of people on here have said they identify as an attack helicopter.

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:26:34 PM EDT

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It's not for you silly.

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:27:08 PM EDT

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I wouls like50 or so 4' x 8' Graphene panels , 3/8" thick ...
I'd do my bedroom first, and then line my exterior walls.

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:27:32 PM EDT

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Well...at least the body will be in one piece.

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:28:41 PM EDT

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The 50bmg is cabin, not personal, armor...

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:32:16 PM EDT

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The story is about the Chinese doing ballistics tests with graphene to add armor to the cockpit of the Chinese Z-10 attack helicopter, which pretty much looks like a reverse-engineered Apache AH-64.
The picture of a mannequin with a vest and helmet made people "think" they are going to use the graphene plates in body armor.
arfcom gone arfcom

But this last paragraph...
The manufacturer said they could make this in to SAPI size vest insert for under 6.5 pound per plate, I am assuming it's in 20mm thickness. Which seems to be heavy to me. As for the cost, the maker being an aerospace company said it will be very expensive. Something about costing half a year of salary of a PLA NCO, which will make it $1100+ for a set of body armor inserts.
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says they can make plates for body armor use.
So, you could insert a 0.78" into a custom-made plate carrier and be able to get hit with a .50 BMG that won't penetrate, but in reality, it would be useful for SWAT and other tier 1 operators to take on 5.56 and 7.62 rounds.

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:34:33 PM EDT

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It's not for you silly.

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Well, now I'm destined to dream about being mauled to death by Darpa Bot. Every time I shoot it it gains power and makes the "Intel Inside" bom bom bom bom sound and fucks me up faster.

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:48:18 PM EDT

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...makes the "Intel Inside" bom bom bom bom sound and fucks me faster.

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Go on...

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:48:47 PM EDT

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I laughed a little too hard at this.

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:49:08 PM EDT

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would make sense to uparmor their killer robots

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:51:56 PM EDT

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This needs a Brazzers logo.

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:53:55 PM EDT

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Graphene is some amazing stuff, makes great batteries too

I can't wait for the day they can make the stuff cheaply/easily, the possibilities and potential applications are endless.

Last I read, scalability was the holdup.

Posted: 11/9/2018 6:54:17 PM EDT

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1) There's no article linked in the OP.
2) The OP specifically mentions vest inserts. Is that not for human use?

Don't tell us we didn't fucking read it. It's pretty clear.