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Posted: 4/18/2021 8:57:11 PM EDT
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Per their profile on airline pilot central, their las pilot to upgrade to captain was hired 15 years ago. That's potentially a helluva long wait to make captain and a lot of guys in front of you.
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Posted: 4/19/2021 4:48:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Per their profile on airline pilot central, their las pilot to upgrade to captain was hired 15 years ago. That's potentially a helluva long wait to make captain and a lot of guys in front of you. Riding right seat in a Phenom 300, that's a long time! |
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Posted: 4/20/2021 10:27:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Riding right seat in a Phenom 300, that's a long time! 300lb+ Netjets pilot let me check out the Phenom cockpit in ACK. That dude must have used a giant shoehorn to get himself in there. Made the PC24 cockpit feel like a widebody. |
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Posted: 4/21/2021 10:38:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Riding right seat in a Phenom 300, that's a long time! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Per their profile on airline pilot central, their las pilot to upgrade to captain was hired 15 years ago. That's potentially a helluva long wait to make captain and a lot of guys in front of you. Riding right seat in a Phenom 300, that's a long time! Making $148 a flight hour after 10 hours helps alleviate the sting. |
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Posted: 4/23/2021 12:43:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Making $148 a flight hour after 10 hours helps alleviate the sting. Do they still get five crew meals a day? I don’t see how you’d spend a nickel in per diem. The problem is flying small cabin stuff gets old. APUs, microwaves, and cold storage is really nice |
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Posted: 5/7/2021 1:15:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do they still get five crew meals a day? I don't see how you'd spend a nickel in per diem. The problem is flying small cabin stuff gets old. APUs, microwaves, and cold storage is really nice Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Making $148 a flight hour after 10 hours helps alleviate the sting. Do they still get five crew meals a day? I don't see how you'd spend a nickel in per diem. The problem is flying small cabin stuff gets old. APUs, microwaves, and cold storage is really nice |
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Posted: 5/7/2021 6:44:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The problem is flying small cabin stuff gets old. APUs, microwaves, and cold storage is really nice We do a mixture between a citation II and our Challenger 300. I enjoy the little slowtation, We see some neat little airfields with it. I also love scaring the shit out of the MTSU kids with it when we hop into Murfreesboro  Both are going away soon though. Our challenger is a lease being replaced by a Falcon 8X shortly. We’re all in queue to attend FSI for type rides hopefully in the next month or so. ETA on the jet is still a few more months out. Found out last Friday the board approved selling the citation and replacing with a Phenom 300. So interesting transitions ahead for us! |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 10:03:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Making $148 a flight hour after 10 hours helps alleviate the sting. I don’t know what any of that means, but what would be the approximate gross pay of a 3 year FO, and a 15 year Cpt.? Asking for a friend. Thanks. |
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Posted: 5/12/2021 2:55:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t know what any of that means, but what would be the approximate gross pay of a 3 year FO, and a 15 year Cpt.? Asking for a friend. Thanks. Honestly, the only reasons I'd looking at NJA is if I lived in someplace completely non-commutable or was 65+. According the APC (yeah, I know!) profile both are about 150k+ if you include perdiem and other extras on the 76 day schedule. That's about 4th year pay at Frontier or Spirit as an FO, working far less. |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 1:17:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Honestly, the only reasons I'd looking at NJA is if I lived in someplace completely non-commutable or was 65+. According the APC (yeah, I know!) profile both are about 150k+ if you include perdiem and other extras on the 76 day schedule. That's about 4th year pay at Frontier or Spirit as an FO, working far less. 15 year captain on the 76 day schedule is making roughly $240k before OT (usually add another 10%) and Flight Duty Pay. We are right now averaging 30 hours or so of flight time a 7 day tour which works out to an extra $3000 of FDP. As a brand new FO on the 7 and 7 you will prob clear $100k first year with all the extras. Message me if you got some questions. |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 1:20:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do they still get five crew meals a day? I don’t see how you’d spend a nickel in per diem. The problem is flying small cabin stuff gets old. APUs, microwaves, and cold storage is really nice We can actually ask for two deviations each day which works out to $46 you can spend on meals. I usually do a crew meal for lunch then use a deviation for a good dinner. |
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Posted: 5/16/2021 1:34:17 AM EDT
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So, what's the story on hiring over 65 Guys?
Former Airline Guys? Are they doing it? Frowning on it? Asking for "A Friend" 
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Posted: 5/18/2021 1:52:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, what's the story on hiring over 65 Guys? Former Airline Guys? Are they doing it? Frowning on it? Asking for "A Friend" Have your friend put the app in. Those three ex wives must be expensive if your friend wants to continue working after airline retirement. |
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Posted: 5/18/2021 5:19:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have your friend put the app in. Those three ex wives must be expensive if your friend wants to continue working after airline retirement. |
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Posted: 5/19/2021 10:28:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have your friend put the app in. Those three ex wives must be expensive if your friend wants to continue working after airline retirement. I don't want to work after I retire, and I've only got one ex wife, but I may not have any choice. 
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Posted: 5/19/2021 12:20:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't want to work after I retire, and I've only got one ex wife, but I may not have any choice. https://i.imgur.com/pggnBbK.jpg Your graph hits too close to home. I’ve had the shittiest aviation career arc and it isn’t getting any better. |
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Posted: 5/31/2021 11:53:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, what's the story on hiring over 65 Guys? Former Airline Guys? Are they doing it? Frowning on it? Asking for "A Friend" How old is the average NJ captain? I have heard horror stories of FOs babysitting the 70+ crowd. |
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