Nature or nurture?

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Posted: 11/16/2018 6:41:24 PM EDT

Research over the decades has waffled on which is the dominant influence, nature or nurture. Most current research puts it around a 50/50 split, though certain dynamics can tilt it in one way or the other. Which do you think generally plays a more significant role in how a person turns out, nature or nurture?

*in the poll dev/behavior disorder = developmental/behavioral disorder (like autism, ADHD, downs syndrome, etc.), and w/o = without

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Posted: 11/16/2018 6:45:20 PM EDT

[#1]

Want to bet $1 on it?

Posted: 11/16/2018 6:46:29 PM EDT

[#2]

I want to think I have faith so I would go with “Nurture”.

Posted: 11/16/2018 6:59:24 PM EDT

[#3]

Genetics almost always wins.

Posted: 11/16/2018 7:29:17 PM EDT

[#4]

It's both to varying degrees.

Posted: 11/16/2018 7:31:29 PM EDT

[#5]

I come from a long line of pissy, low end scam artists and thugs.

I was raised by the worst of the bunch. A bipolar narccistic psychopath in situations that drove weaker children to narcotics and worse.

What am I?

Posted: 11/16/2018 7:33:57 PM EDT

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Yep.

Posted: 11/16/2018 7:37:32 PM EDT

[#7]

Where's the video of the monkey rape cage?

Posted: 11/16/2018 7:38:05 PM EDT

[#8]

My daughter is adopted and is basically a clone of me in terms of personality. We share no DNA, but the influence of my wife and I is abundantly clear.

Our next daughter will be genetically ours, so it will be interesting to see how her personality develops.

Posted: 11/16/2018 7:40:33 PM EDT

[#9]

Nature sets the distribution (Gaussian), nurture sets where in the distribution you fall.

Posted: 11/16/2018 7:41:18 PM EDT

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I see what you did there Mortimer.

Posted: 11/16/2018 7:46:58 PM EDT

[#11]

Absolutely nature wins. Nurture may appear to be winning until puberty, but puberty brings out the animal instincts that drive all human behavior.

I am 100% certain that genetics plays a super dominant role in behavior, and how one is raised only causes temporary effects. Just look at gays. It’s not like they were raised to be gay, their genetics tells them what they want, period. The role of “nurture” is waaaay overstated.

Posted: 11/16/2018 7:51:19 PM EDT

[#12]

I think it very difficult to answer your question objectively. Some of the genetic disorders I would say are nature. While I think non genetic behavior disorders are more likely a nurture issue .

Posted: 11/16/2018 7:53:29 PM EDT

[#13]

Its both OP. I can see my kid attempting to make the same mistakes I did and my parents failed to correct. I step in and correct thoroughly before he has an opportunity to fuck up. My answer is: Nature can make you a fuck up but nurture can fix or stifle it given enough effort.

Posted: 11/16/2018 7:56:33 PM EDT

[#14]

Pick both. Some stuff is genetics, but other is parenting.

Posted: 11/16/2018 7:58:09 PM EDT

[#15]

We want to believe it's nurture, that we have control.

But, as with horses and dogs, breeding is where it's at.

Posted: 11/16/2018 8:04:46 PM EDT

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How could genetic disorders be anything but nature?

Posted: 11/16/2018 8:21:46 PM EDT

[#17]

Nature sets your potential.

Nurture gives you a chance to fulfill it.

Posted: 11/16/2018 8:22:40 PM EDT

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I think it very difficult to answer your question objectively. Some of the genetic disorders I would say are nature. While I think non genetic behavior disorders are more likely a nurture issue .

How could genetic disorders be anything but nature?

You do not have exposure to environmental triggers. Your genetic disorder is not manifested.

You are highly prone to, say, cocaine addiction. You grow up, go to school, marry, and live in an environment where you have never been offered to try cocaine or seen anybody with crack.

Posted: 11/16/2018 8:41:44 PM EDT

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I think it very difficult to answer your question objectively. Some of the genetic disorders I would say are nature. While I think non genetic behavior disorders are more likely a nurture issue .

How could genetic disorders be anything but nature?

Current research on Type 1 Diabetes believes that people get it due to a combination to a genetic predisposition and an environmental trigger. So while not a behavior disorder, its a disease that has both a genetic and environmental component.

Posted: 11/16/2018 8:47:01 PM EDT

[#20]

Genetic research into behavior and specifically intelligence is suppressed. Most researchers that deal with IQ linked to genetics are labeled racists. The main narrative today (leftism) requires the populace to generally believe nurture is the predominant influence. But its becoming more clear that its not true.

Posted: 11/16/2018 8:48:38 PM EDT

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I'm still too early in the game to definitively say much. My son is 7 years old.

My son is adopted. We've had him home since he was 3 days old. He is 95% just like me, and tries to be just like his daddy. However, he does have some traits that are not so much me.

I keep in touch with the biological mother and she has an adult daughter and son. She's told me that she saw the same traits that I described in her children. I feel that there's definitely a genetic component there.

I'll maintain-- and admit that it may have some bias to it-- that nurture is stronger than nature, but I'll NEVER assert that nature isn't an influencing factor.

Posted: 11/16/2018 9:05:49 PM EDT

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This, at least in my son’s case and his half sister’s case. same nurturing, genetics took over, they are opposites.

Posted: 11/16/2018 9:11:15 PM EDT

[#23]

In a typical “nuclear family” the nature & nurture are closely tied, because mom & dad provided the DNA & may or may not be involved in their childrens lives.

Posted: 11/16/2018 9:14:59 PM EDT

[#24]

id say 50 50

a person could be born broken, or they can be made broken

Posted: 11/16/2018 9:15:30 PM EDT

[#25]

Measured in childhood, the inherited percentage of traits like IQ can be appear as low as .3. In mature adulthood, it can be up to .8.

Nurture is not only easy to overestimate, it is like noise that is cleared out over time.