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Posted: 7/14/2020 1:40:53 PM EDT

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I think you're thinking of ketoacidosis, not ketosis. Ketosis doesn't wreck your kidneys; it's a normal physiological state that everybody - not just dieters - goes into regularly when the body has depleted ready glucose stores. A ketogenic diet just keeps you there, continuing to burn fat as fuel instead of switching back over to glucose.

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I'm not so much asking for a diagnosis as a "Me/my parent/my friend went through this and..."

I know jack and shit about diabetes.

Both my parents were type 2 diabetics. 4 of the 6 sybs are type two diabetics. My mom went into a diabetic coma. She was in ICU for three weeks.
For the record KETO was not the way to go for a diabetic. I get what he was trying to do. KETOSIS is very hard to manage in diabetics and it damages the kidneys. Someone should have been monitoring him closely.
Diabetics have a hard time balancing sugars in their blood stream. Meds are only 1/2 of that equation. Diet is the rest. Medication has to work with carbs through diet. If he was just on pills as he lost weight he couldn't adjust and the pills may have pushed his insulin level to low (not enough carb to off put the medication)
Everything depends on how long he was without O2, damage to brain, how bad the ketosis is, and how much damage to kidneys there is. Dialysis is a real potential if he's in kidney failure.
I am not a doctor and just speaking from experience with family. Prayers OP

I think you're thinking of ketoacidosis, not ketosis. Ketosis doesn't wreck your kidneys; it's a normal physiological state that everybody - not just dieters - goes into regularly when the body has depleted ready glucose stores. A ketogenic diet just keeps you there, continuing to burn fat as fuel instead of switching back over to glucose.

Thank you for clarifying that. We need accuracy when we're talking about medical issues.

For Type 2's:

- Ketoacidosis is very rare and very BAD. (Not so rare for Type 1's)
- Ketosis is good (when meds are managed correctly.)

Posted: 7/14/2020 3:01:00 PM EDT

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Update in OP.

Posted: 7/14/2020 3:04:06 PM EDT

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Sorry to hear about your dad OP.

Posted: 7/14/2020 3:12:00 PM EDT

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Sorry for your loss.

Posted: 7/14/2020 3:12:03 PM EDT

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Very sorry for your loss. Prayers to you and your family.

Posted: 7/14/2020 3:15:22 PM EDT

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I wasnt expecting to read that....I'm sorry to hear it.

Posted: 7/14/2020 3:15:34 PM EDT

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Dude, I'm sorry.

Posted: 7/14/2020 3:28:40 PM EDT

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Prayers for your family, Cypher.

Mike

Posted: 7/14/2020 3:33:42 PM EDT

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Prayers out.

Posted: 7/14/2020 3:44:25 PM EDT

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Very sorry for your loss.

Posted: 7/14/2020 3:45:47 PM EDT

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So sorry for your loss OP. Older people get stubborn and don't always do what's best for them.

Prayers for you and your family.

Posted: 7/14/2020 3:51:36 PM EDT

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Sorry to hear about your dad's passing. Good that you were by his side. He held on for you to be there.

Posted: 7/14/2020 3:56:24 PM EDT

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Sorry for your loss

Posted: 7/14/2020 3:57:05 PM EDT

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Sorry to hear about it.

I always try to look it from the perspective that he's free from all this bullshit we got going on, it's not fun, but it's a good time to be called home by God, and he's no longer held back by his body or any vices he had here on earth. Be happy for him and know you'll see him again some day when it's your turn.

Posted: 7/14/2020 3:59:02 PM EDT

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Sorry to hear about your loss.

Posted: 7/14/2020 3:59:36 PM EDT

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Sorry to hear about it.

I always try to look it from the perspective that he's free from all this bullshit we got going on, it's not fun, but it's a good time to be called home by God, and he's no longer held back by his body or any vices he had here on earth. Be happy for him and know you'll see him again some day when it's your turn.

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We joked about it at the hospital... that he was probably just tired of the bullshit.

Posted: 7/14/2020 4:02:01 PM EDT

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So sorry for your loss.

Posted: 7/14/2020 4:06:02 PM EDT

[#18]

Sorry for your loss. I lost my mom last year. It sucks

Posted: 7/14/2020 4:09:01 PM EDT

[#19]

Im sorry for your loss. Lost my own Dad last year

Posted: 7/14/2020 4:09:14 PM EDT

[#20]

Sorry to hear that.

Posted: 7/14/2020 4:15:26 PM EDT

[#21]

I’m sorry man

Posted: 7/14/2020 4:16:36 PM EDT

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I'm very sorry for your loss Cypher214. Medical stubbornness is a common cause of unnecessary death. I hope you and your family are OK.

Posted: 7/14/2020 4:18:23 PM EDT

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My condolences on the loss of your father.

Posted: 7/14/2020 4:18:54 PM EDT

[#24]

damn op, i am sorry

Posted: 7/14/2020 4:19:25 PM EDT

[#25]

I'm sorry for your loss.

Posted: 7/14/2020 4:19:34 PM EDT

[#26]

Sorry for your loss.

Posted: 7/14/2020 4:21:04 PM EDT

[#27]

Hang tight. Sorry to hear of your loss.

Posted: 7/14/2020 4:22:16 PM EDT

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Sorry, it sounds like my mother. I finally got her to go to a doctor and she died the next day..

Posted: 7/14/2020 4:22:43 PM EDT

[#29]

I'm sorry.

Posted: 7/14/2020 4:22:50 PM EDT

[#30]

Sorry for your loss. I'll be praying for you and your family tonight.

Posted: 7/14/2020 4:28:50 PM EDT

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This is the first time I have seen this thread, sorry to hear about your pop.

I too am borderline diabetic, I try to keep my weight down, I am somewhat overweight, but not obese. I am super careful about sugar intake. I don't drink any HFCS/sugar sweetened soft drinks, they are real killers.

Posted: 7/14/2020 4:30:48 PM EDT

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My heartfelt condolences.

Posted: 7/14/2020 4:32:22 PM EDT

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Sorry for your loss, OP.

I started to say that 64 was way too young, but then remembered that my dad passed at age 57.

That was 43 years ago.

Posted: 7/14/2020 4:34:27 PM EDT

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My dad (64) has been type 2 diabetic for years and is morbidly obese. He started keto to lose some weight and he's down 50lbs but my mom has noticed some changes in his behavior lately.

She said he hasn't been eating much and sleeps during the day, staying awake most of the night. He has taken a few falls lately with no good reason. When he falls, my mom has to call the fire dept out to pick him up because he is too heavy to get himself off the floor. She said he loses track of time because his sleep cycle is so messed up. He ate very little yesterday and nothing today.

This evening, she went to check on him in bed and he was unresponsive, had foam in his nose and mouth, but was breathing. She called 911 and the paramedics took him to the ER. When he arrived at the hospital, his blood sugar was 14 (I don't know what that means, just that it's dangerously low). My mom said they were able to get his blood sugar up to 50 when she last heard an update.

They had him intubated when she last saw him so he didn't speak but she said he appeared conscious even though he could barely open his eyes. The doctor told her they were taking him to the ICU and would run tests to figure out what's going on.

Does anyone have any experience with this sort of thing and potential lasting effects? The waiting game to find out if he's going to be okay is fucking brutal.

Final update: My dad passed on Sunday night. I was by his side with my mom when it happened. His heart was very enlarged and weak. He hadn't seen a doctor in over 2 years because he was so stubborn about medical issues so it was only a matter of time before something major happened. Thank you guys for the thoughts/prayers.

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Prayers bud I read your original post a while back and just saw the update

Posted: 7/14/2020 4:36:23 PM EDT

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So sorry for your loss, OP. Prayers out to you and your family.

Posted: 7/14/2020 4:49:35 PM EDT

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Posted: 7/14/2020 4:52:41 PM EDT

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sorry for your loss

Posted: 7/14/2020 4:53:46 PM EDT

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Cypher:

I’m sorry about your dad’s passing and send you and your mom my sincere condolences.

Posted: 7/14/2020 5:04:43 PM EDT

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I’m just now seeing this. I am so sorry. Praying for you and family.

Posted: 7/14/2020 5:08:00 PM EDT

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Very sorry for your loss. Prayers to you and your family.

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Same here OP. Just said a prayer.

Posted: 7/14/2020 5:15:53 PM EDT

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Pease accept our heartfelt condolences, Cypher.

Truly sorry for your loss. I saw you post the other day and had hoped your dad would be OK.

Thoughts are with you and your family.

Posted: 7/14/2020 5:26:29 PM EDT

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Very sorry to hear this. Prayers for your family.

Posted: 7/14/2020 5:31:26 PM EDT

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Sorry to hear of your loss.

Posted: 7/14/2020 8:00:57 PM EDT

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My condolences on the loss of your father.

Posted: 7/14/2020 8:09:02 PM EDT

[#45]

Very sorry for your loss.

Posted: 7/14/2020 8:12:27 PM EDT

[#46]

Sorry for your loss.

Posted: 7/14/2020 8:17:23 PM EDT

[#47]

I'm so sorry.

Posted: 7/14/2020 8:21:28 PM EDT

[#48]

Damn, sorry for your family’s loss.

Posted: 7/14/2020 8:25:04 PM EDT

[#49]

Sorry for your loss. I wish the best for you and the family.

Posted: 7/14/2020 8:25:27 PM EDT

[#50]

So sorry to hear about your father. Please accept our deepest sympathies and condolences to you and your family.

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