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Link Posted: 7/22/2021 2:24:52 PM EDT
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Someone's looking for an insurance payout, I'd bet.
Link Posted: 7/22/2021 2:37:31 PM EDT
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I don’t need it anymore.
Link Posted: 7/22/2021 2:54:17 PM EDT
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this sounds worrying: "Judging by the telemetry information, too high pressure was created in the fuel system, as a result of which the bellows broke and the fuel flowed into the gas cavity behind the bellows membrane."
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Damn O-Rings again.
Link Posted: 7/22/2021 3:02:03 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/22/2021 3:39:50 PM EDT
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I bet Elon could get a new one up there in a year or less if you pay him to.

That includes building a new capsule.
Link Posted: 7/22/2021 3:42:03 PM EDT
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I bet Elon could get a new one up there in a year or less if you pay him to.

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The Russians want NOTHING to do with SpaceX.

They are mad as hell about Elon undercutting their launch costs.
Link Posted: 7/22/2021 3:55:15 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/22/2021 4:33:11 PM EDT
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If they've got 30 orbits before it becomes unstable and de-orbits soon after... then they've got a little less than 2 days.

If they can't get it to have some propulsion during this time then there's no saving it.  Nothing could go up to attempt to save it in time.

If they can restore propulsion then even if they can't reach the ISS they could raise the orbit to something that's stable for a few years.  Then there are commercial craft and rockets that could be sent up to ferry it to the ISS.
Link Posted: 7/22/2021 4:48:29 PM EDT
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Apple shots are like...well...I...he was religious you know. Then that whole alchemy thing.
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what happens after the ~30 stable orbits transpire?

Newton is a harsh and angry god, and expects to be obeyed.


Apple shots are like...well...I...he was religious you know. Then that whole alchemy thing.

You're thinking of Brandt or Libavius.
Link Posted: 7/22/2021 4:51:11 PM EDT
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Fuming Spirit of Libavius.
Link Posted: 7/22/2021 4:53:16 PM EDT
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I saw this documentary once


You are supposed to hit it with hammer comrade
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I blame Taiwan too.
Link Posted: 7/22/2021 4:54:59 PM EDT
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sometimes I like Russia ... in certain ways they are like the WV of Europe LOL
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Link Posted: 7/22/2021 4:55:41 PM EDT
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Time to retask the mini shuttle
Link Posted: 7/22/2021 5:16:36 PM EDT
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Chynah is ready to take Taiwan. This is a ploy with an excuse that it is uncontrollable and will explode above the US as an EMP. Russah and Chynah are the new world power and .gov will make the excuse that it was an accident and we must accept socialism to prevent our country from being conquered.
Link Posted: 7/22/2021 5:19:01 PM EDT
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That module has had almost as many problems as the JWST.
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at least the module made it to space.

The French are going to crash the JWST into the ocean with their shitty rocket.
Link Posted: 7/22/2021 5:20:30 PM EDT
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sounding like they may have gotten propulsion working again.

don't know if it will make it to the ISS yet.


Link Posted: 7/22/2021 5:20:47 PM EDT
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The Russians want NOTHING to do with SpaceX.

They are mad as hell about Elon undercutting their launch costs.
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I bet Elon could get a new one up there in a year or less if you pay him to.

That includes building a new capsule.


The Russians want NOTHING to do with SpaceX.

They are mad as hell about Elon undercutting their launch costs.


also have you seen how shitty and small that capsule they use is. Fuck that, plus you have to learn russian.
Link Posted: 7/22/2021 5:21:58 PM EDT
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Yeah. Our shit never breaks or blows the fuck up.
Link Posted: 7/22/2021 5:22:00 PM EDT
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This ISS module has been delayed for 14 years... It was supposed to be attached in 2007.

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Damn - now that's how you stretch a project into a career.
Link Posted: 7/22/2021 5:26:55 PM EDT
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On a serious note, the warranty on the propulsion system expired in 2014 so they installed a completely new system, the new systems warranty expired last year.

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Link Posted: 7/23/2021 8:15:30 AM EDT
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sounding like they may have gotten propulsion working again.

don't know if it will make it to the ISS yet.


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Reportedly, if they don't make a major burn today, the orbits will go out of synch and it probably wont make it to the ISS.

Honestly, this module has been a continuous 20 year clusterfuck and the rest of the ISS countries shouldn't even allow it to be attached.
Link Posted: 7/23/2021 8:19:10 AM EDT
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Reportedly, if they don't make a major burn today, the orbits will go out of synch and it probably wont make it to the ISS.

Honestly, this module has been a continuous 20 year clusterfuck and the rest of the ISS countries shouldn't even allow it to be attached.
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sounding like they may have gotten propulsion working again.

don't know if it will make it to the ISS yet.




Reportedly, if they don't make a major burn today, the orbits will go out of synch and it probably wont make it to the ISS.

Honestly, this module has been a continuous 20 year clusterfuck and the rest of the ISS countries shouldn't even allow it to be attached.


Russia should be more worried about raising their populous out of poverty than fucking around with space and shit
Link Posted: 7/23/2021 10:20:24 AM EDT
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The Russians want NOTHING to do with SpaceX.

They are mad as hell about Elon undercutting their launch costs.
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The Russians want NOTHING to do with SpaceX.

They are mad as hell about Elon undercutting their launch costs.


I wouldn't be surprised if the feeling was mutual -

In 2001, Musk became involved with the nonprofit Mars Society. He was inspired by plans to place a growth-chamber for plants on Mars and discussed funding the project himself.[62] In October 2001, Musk traveled to Moscow to buy refurbished Intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) that could send the greenhouse payloads into space. He met with companies NPO Lavochkin and Kosmotras; however, Musk was seen as a novice and was even spat on by one of the Russian chief designers.
Link Posted: 7/23/2021 10:22:38 AM EDT
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Apparently, the feeling is mutual -

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The Russians want NOTHING to do with SpaceX.

They are mad as hell about Elon undercutting their launch costs.


Apparently, the feeling is mutual -

In 2001, Musk became involved with the nonprofit Mars Society. He was inspired by plans to place a growth-chamber for plants on Mars and discussed funding the project himself.[62] In October 2001, Musk traveled to Moscow to buy refurbished Intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) that could send the greenhouse payloads into space. He met with companies NPO Lavochkin and Kosmotras; however, Musk was seen as a novice and was even spat on by one of the Russian chief designers.


When you have nothing left after your economy collapsed due to communism, all you have left to do is be salty
Link Posted: 7/23/2021 10:24:50 AM EDT
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Russia should be more worried about raising their populous out of poverty than fucking around with space and shit
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People say the same thing about the US.

Frankly I'd rather see the Russians build cool stuff like spacecraft, submarines and aircraft... even if they are obsolete and/or unnecessary by the time they hit production.  Give that money to the people and it'll just buy more vodka and tracksuits.
Link Posted: 7/23/2021 10:25:13 AM EDT
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All of my time spent playing Kerbal Space Project makes me think this is fixable.  All we have to is send up Jed Kerbin with an extra fuel tank, match orbits, dock the two craft together, Jed can fill the modules tank then use his engine to raise its orbit, then parachute home.  Easy Peasy.
Link Posted: 7/23/2021 10:50:12 AM EDT
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Frankly I'd rather see the Russians build cool stuff like spacecraft, submarines and aircraft... even if they are obsolete and/or unnecessary by the time they hit production.  Give that money to the people and it'll just buy more vodka and tracksuits.
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Plus if they spent some money on infrastructure, we wouldn't have hilarious videos about exploding poo trucks

Tanker full of SEWAGE explodes making a traffic jam a whole lot worse for stranded commuters

Link Posted: 7/23/2021 10:57:31 AM EDT
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Reportedly, if they don't make a major burn today, the orbits will go out of synch and it probably wont make it to the ISS.

Honestly, this module has been a continuous 20 year clusterfuck and the rest of the ISS countries shouldn't even allow it to be attached.
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That's my thoughts. No way I'd want that thing attached
Link Posted: 7/23/2021 10:59:20 AM EDT
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You're thinking of Brandt or Libavius.
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what happens after the ~30 stable orbits transpire?

Newton is a harsh and angry god, and expects to be obeyed.


Apple shots are like...well...I...he was religious you know. Then that whole alchemy thing.

You're thinking of Brandt or Libavius.


No, the apple fell and hit him in the head.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Newton's_occult_studies#:~:text=Newton
Link Posted: 7/23/2021 10:59:33 AM EDT
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Made in Taiwan?
Link Posted: 7/23/2021 11:03:37 AM EDT
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to bad the us doesnt have a shuttle anymore that we could use to capture the module and send it on its way to iss
Link Posted: 7/23/2021 12:51:03 PM EDT
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to bad the us doesnt have a shuttle anymore that we could use to capture the module and send it on its way to iss
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x-37b probably has an arm attachment or you could get one working in a couple months.
Link Posted: 7/23/2021 1:52:56 PM EDT
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x-37b probably has an arm attachment or you could get one working in a couple months.
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The Nauka module is like 5x the size of an X-37
Link Posted: 7/23/2021 1:53:16 PM EDT
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Chynah is ready to take Taiwan. This is a ploy with an excuse that it is uncontrollable and will explode above the US as an EMP. Russah and Chynah are the new world power and .gov will make the excuse that it was an accident and we must accept socialism to prevent our country from being conquered.
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Link Posted: 7/23/2021 2:04:29 PM EDT
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this sounds worrying: "Judging by the telemetry information, too high pressure was created in the fuel system, as a result of which the bellows broke and the fuel flowed into the gas cavity behind the bellows membrane."
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 If true that is BAD....a restart attempt could end the mission .....abruptly......thats how these types of 'anomalies' tend to go.

ETA: My bet is it become falling space junk or space debris.  Bad for the astronauts ...any Americans on board?
Link Posted: 7/23/2021 2:07:40 PM EDT
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The Nauka module is like 5x the size of an X-37
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can you just drag it up or not enough thrust? Doesnt have to go inside.
Link Posted: 7/23/2021 2:28:43 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/23/2021 3:56:15 PM EDT
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Newton is a harsh and angry god, and expects to be obeyed.
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what happens after the ~30 stable orbits transpire?

Newton is a harsh and angry god, and expects to be obeyed.

Not to mention atmospheric drag.
Link Posted: 7/23/2021 8:53:15 PM EDT
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I wouldn't be surprised if the feeling was mutual -

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The Russians want NOTHING to do with SpaceX.

They are mad as hell about Elon undercutting their launch costs.


I wouldn't be surprised if the feeling was mutual -

In 2001, Musk became involved with the nonprofit Mars Society. He was inspired by plans to place a growth-chamber for plants on Mars and discussed funding the project himself.[62] In October 2001, Musk traveled to Moscow to buy refurbished Intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) that could send the greenhouse payloads into space. He met with companies NPO Lavochkin and Kosmotras; however, Musk was seen as a novice and was even spat on by one of the Russian chief designers.



Musk holds a grudge…
Link Posted: 7/23/2021 10:17:42 PM EDT
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Musk holds a grudge…
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"Who's the fucking 'amateur' now, Yakoff?"
Link Posted: 7/24/2021 5:27:04 PM EDT
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Russia Averts Possible Disaster as New Space Station Module Finally Reaches Proper Orbit

Russia’s new space station module, dubbed Nauka, is currently en route to the ISS, but the spacecraft initially failed to complete its first orbit-raising burn, leading to concerns that it might not complete the trip. Thankfully, the Nauka team on Earth was able to perform a course correction, and the module is now in the proper orbit to continue its journey.
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Link Posted: 7/30/2021 8:33:03 AM EDT
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They worked out the problems to Nauka, got it to the ISS, only to have it's slavshit thrusters fire while attached to the ISS and fuck up the orientation of the entire station.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/07/russian-module-suddenly-fires-thrusters-after-docking-with-space-station/

They should never have allowed this piece of shit to be attached.
Link Posted: 7/30/2021 8:44:20 AM EDT
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For NASA, this meant delaying the launch of a Starliner spacecraft planned for Friday. This long-awaited mission comes 19 months after an initial test flight in December 2019 went awry due to software problems. Because Starliner was not able to dock with the space station during this first test flight, Boeing agreed to fly a second test mission of Starliner before a crewed flight.
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Ouch.

Kharn
Link Posted: 7/30/2021 8:47:02 AM EDT
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They worked out the problems to Nauka, got it to the ISS, only to have it's slavshit thrusters fire while attached to the ISS and fuck up the orientation of the entire station.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/07/russian-module-suddenly-fires-thrusters-after-docking-with-space-station/

They should never have allowed this piece of shit to be attached.
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Link Posted: 7/30/2021 8:49:01 AM EDT
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I like that they gave it snazzy name..."Science".
Link Posted: 7/30/2021 8:59:44 AM EDT
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Watched the docking and drama unfold yesterday.
Those RCS thrusters started popping off after the module was docked and the Russians onboard the ISS were in the service module removing the hatch on the docking port.

Russian team on the ground scrambling and finally stating the errant thruster firing has been fixed.
The 'fix' was the RCS completely running out of propellant , IOW they lost complete control of it until it ran out of gas and they claimed victory.

I'm surprised the fucking thing didn't blow up.

Now they have a 20T dead fish plugged in to the ISS.

Link Posted: 7/30/2021 4:08:32 PM EDT
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They worked out the problems to Nauka, got it to the ISS, only to have it's slavshit thrusters fire while attached to the ISS and fuck up the orientation of the entire station.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/07/russian-module-suddenly-fires-thrusters-after-docking-with-space-station/

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No problem, we'll just send up a shuttle to correct the orientation and orbit...  Oh, wait...
Link Posted: 7/30/2021 6:07:45 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/30/2021 7:10:40 PM EDT
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What a giant pile of Russian shit

They should have just met that garbage fall into the Earth and burn up
Link Posted: 7/31/2021 8:41:06 AM EDT
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Damn - now that's how you stretch a project into a career.
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This ISS module has been delayed for 14 years... It was supposed to be attached in 2007.


Damn - now that's how you stretch a project into a career.

I know guys at Boeing that have been on the Space Station Freedom/ISS program since 1988, when Boeing won the original contract back during the old Boeing Aerospace Co. days.
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