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Link Posted: 2/8/2018 3:38:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By xenophon21:
Shooting cop should be charged just as if roles were reversed and the citizen accidentally shot the cop.
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THIS!
10 Billion times, THIS!
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 3:39:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By nobodyg17:
Why practice? Shoot an innocent unarmed person. Get a vacation, get paid, and nothing happens to you. Business as usual.
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Originally Posted By nobodyg17:
Originally Posted By FL4REAL:
Originally Posted By MSC182:
Fortunately for the victim, the cop sucks as bad at shooting as he does policing.
Maybe he'll practice more during his paid time off.
Why practice? Shoot an innocent unarmed person. Get a vacation, get paid, and nothing happens to you. Business as usual.
Ain't never going to make it to the HRT merely wounding innocents and hostages. Dude has to up his game.
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 3:40:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wyomingnick:
Police shooting innocent citizens incidents are really getting ridiculous.
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Link Posted: 2/8/2018 3:45:16 PM EDT
This thread needs more dog jokes.
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 3:47:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Leisure_Shoot:
Possibly a case of "when you're trained like a hammer, everything looks like a nail" to the point where screws and pegs get hamhmered simply by instinct.
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More true than you know.... and the fastest way for a cop to end up on the shit list/ unemployed is to question training or policy issues. BTDT, still employed but on the shit list for the rest of eternity. Still employed because I actually DID follow CoC, and they realized I was right.
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 3:48:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By heavymetal762:
More true than you know.... and the fastest way for a cop to end up on the shit list/ unemployed is to question training or policy issues. BTDT, still employed but on the shit list for the rest of eternity. Still employed because I actually DID follow CoC, and they realized I was right.
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Originally Posted By heavymetal762:
Originally Posted By Leisure_Shoot:
Possibly a case of "when you're trained like a hammer, everything looks like a nail" to the point where screws and pegs get hamhmered simply by instinct.
More true than you know.... and the fastest way for a cop to end up on the shit list/ unemployed is to question training or policy issues. BTDT, still employed but on the shit list for the rest of eternity. Still employed because I actually DID follow CoC, and they realized I was right.
Policies aren't created for doing the right thing.

Just jamming someone up / diverting blame.
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 3:50:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PikeSlayer:
Gonna get paid.
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This.

Stupid triggerman needs more training.

I'd see if they have an lighter/aftermarket trigger in the rifle and then destroy them in court.
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 3:51:27 PM EDT
Simple mistake; all whites look the same
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 3:54:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fantomas:
lucky he is still alive
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Lucky most cops can't shoot for shit. But, they always get the doughnut in their mouth.
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 3:57:12 PM EDT
Can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 3:59:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By vdub90vw:
Who robs a Dollar store anyway?
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Someone who needs dollars for a strip club.
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 4:01:08 PM EDT
Click Bait!

Link Posted: 2/8/2018 4:14:38 PM EDT
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This goes along with the comments I've seen where range administrators, or police leadership, give the expectation that they don't want the officers to train too much for fear they will potentially be labeled by defense attorneys as "gun obsessed killer culture" in a shooting trial. I've hear this personally from one man who ran one, and from another man who trains police dept's. When I've mentioend it on ARF, it has been affirmed by others as their experience as well.
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 4:14:50 PM EDT
No good deed goes unpunished. Also, any time you interface with the cops and a gun is involved, someone has an excellent shot at being shot. Cops can be jumpy around shootings, go figure.
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 4:20:16 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/8/2018 4:22:14 PM EDT
Did he say "hands up, don't shoot"?
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 4:24:36 PM EDT
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50 cent...

ETA: this post lost all hilarity, I meant to quote the "who would rob a dollar store" remark.
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 4:28:34 PM EDT
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#ServeAndProtect
#ThinBlueLine
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 4:33:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fullpower:
"No officers were injured. "
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Except for a little numbness from all the high fives he probably got.
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 4:43:11 PM EDT
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Anyone know what type of rifle and caliber was used?
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 4:46:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PikeSlayer:
Gonna get paid.
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Link Posted: 2/8/2018 4:46:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:

it's actually a common thing

they have cash unlike most other places anymore as a large amount of their clientele are the "under served by banks" type
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Did not know that. Learn something new everyday.
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 4:46:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By nightdh:
You don't watch Live PD, do you?
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Originally Posted By nightdh:
Originally Posted By vdub90vw:
Who robs a Dollar store anyway?
You don't watch Live PD, do you?
Nope. Was told above it's pretty common. Didn't know that.
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 4:49:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kpacman:
The cop who did the shooting is probably being recruited by the FBI's Hostage Rescue Team as we speak!
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why, was the guy that got shot holding a baby?
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 4:53:41 PM EDT
The lesson here is to never do the cops' job. Ever. You will regret it.
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 4:55:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:
It goes beyond that.

There are departments out there deliberately hiring "non-threatening" looking officers and avoiding teaching more effective combatives because they don't want to "send the wrong message"

Police administrators, a significant number of them anyway, do not want to have actual fighters in their ranks. Because it is expensive and time consuming to make them, and because eventually those trained fighters are going to hurt somebody!

The fact that hiring weak, timid, and utterly ineffectual dumbfucks and handing them the awesome responsibility of being a police officer turns into more shootings and injuries is fucking invisible to them. They wouldn't have been promoted to that position if they weren't company men and dogshit leaders.
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Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:
Originally Posted By Leisure_Shoot:
This goes along with the comments I've seen where range administrators, or police leadership, give the expectation that they don't want the officers to train too much for fear they will potentially be labeled by defense attorneys as "gun obsessed killer culture" in a shooting trial.
It goes beyond that.

There are departments out there deliberately hiring "non-threatening" looking officers and avoiding teaching more effective combatives because they don't want to "send the wrong message"

Police administrators, a significant number of them anyway, do not want to have actual fighters in their ranks. Because it is expensive and time consuming to make them, and because eventually those trained fighters are going to hurt somebody!

The fact that hiring weak, timid, and utterly ineffectual dumbfucks and handing them the awesome responsibility of being a police officer turns into more shootings and injuries is fucking invisible to them. They wouldn't have been promoted to that position if they weren't company men and dogshit leaders.
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 4:55:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Cops only shoot black people and all cops are racist.
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Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Originally Posted By APPALOUSA:
Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:
Colin Noir's bullshit gets proven wrong yet again.
can you expand?

genuinely curious
Cops only shoot black people and all cops are racist.
Ok, I'm confused... I have practically watched his entire channel.. I must have missed that video. Link please?
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 5:14:22 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 5:17:15 PM EDT
Well he won’t make that mistake again
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 5:23:35 PM EDT
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$$$$$$$$$$ ca ching$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Anybody want to be his $$$$$$$$ ca ching$$$$$$$$ lawyer?

Actually thinking that a severe lack of information was given to the police. The LE may not be the bad guys, but the people responsible for "misinformation" or the lack thereof given to the LE.
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 5:24:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Chaingun:
Simple mistake; all whites look the same
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THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYIN'!
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 5:31:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By vdub90vw:
Who robs a Dollar store anyway?
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Dollar General stores are often robbed in my neck of the woods. They have a lot of customers dealing in cash, they don't make enough money that they would ever hire security or off-duty police and many of the newer stores are completely self-contained and easy to get in and out of.
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 5:44:26 PM EDT
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Dumbass didn't pull his white privilege card out fast enough. Should have identified himself a member of the protected class.

Link Posted: 2/8/2018 5:45:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PikeSlayer:
Gonna get paid.
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As long as he lives with no lasting effects he can retire soon with a cool story, cash in his pocket and a bj a day card because he got shot defending the wife.
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 5:47:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Leisure_Shoot:
This goes along with the comments I've seen where range administrators, or police leadership, give the expectation that they don't want the officers to train too much for fear they will potentially be labeled by defense attorneys as "gun obsessed killer culture" in a shooting trial. I've hear this personally from one man who ran one, and from another man who trains police dept's. When I've mentioend it on ARF, it has been affirmed by others as their experience as well.
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Some administrations are afraid of appearing to create "gunslingers". I've seen a few in my time.

ETA: You can thank these type of administrators for the old practice of handgun and shotgun are good enough for patrol officers, if the situation requires more than that everyone can wait for SWAT.
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 5:49:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 40xb:
From the article in the OP

I can see where the officer(s) on scene might have thought that Becker was was complicit in the armed robbery. Both were armed when they got there. I wonder what info was relayed to the police once they were on scene and giving him commands. Once the actual armed robber started shooting at the police, as reported in the article, it seems everything turned to crap.

I hope Becker heals but I think it was a poor idea for him to run over and confront an armed robber at a place he wasn't originally in. I understand why he did it though.
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Originally Posted By 40xb:
From the article in the OP

Both Becker and the robber were wearing two different color jackets and while Becker is heavier, the gunman was much more slender. Becker complied with the orders to drop his weapon as the other man proceeded to fire at police.

John Syme, a spokesman with the Independence Police Department, would not say much on Saturday except that police responded to a call of an armed robber and that when they got there both men were armed.
I can see where the officer(s) on scene might have thought that Becker was was complicit in the armed robbery. Both were armed when they got there. I wonder what info was relayed to the police once they were on scene and giving him commands. Once the actual armed robber started shooting at the police, as reported in the article, it seems everything turned to crap.

I hope Becker heals but I think it was a poor idea for him to run over and confront an armed robber at a place he wasn't originally in. I understand why he did it though.
LOL.
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 5:51:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FL4REAL:

LOL.
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It's actually a valid point.
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 5:54:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By vdub90vw:
Who robs a Dollar store anyway?
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Someone who wants lots of dollar bills?
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 5:55:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By floridacop:
It's actually a valid point.
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Originally Posted By floridacop:
Originally Posted By FL4REAL:

LOL.
It's actually a valid point.
Shooting the guy without a gun because someone else has a gun? Did they even shoot the perp?
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 5:56:24 PM EDT
If you prosecute cops for shooting the wrong person, then people will stop wanting to be cops.

They ought to get at least two or three get-out-of-the-shit-they-got-themselves-into cards.

Cops are only human.

Link Posted: 2/8/2018 5:57:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By floridacop:
It's actually a valid point.
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Originally Posted By floridacop:
Originally Posted By FL4REAL:

LOL.
It's actually a valid point.
wrong post
Link Posted: 2/8/2018 5:58:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By floridacop:
Some administrations are afraid of appearing to create "gunslingers". I've seen a few in my time.

ETA: You can thank these type of administrators for the old practice of handgun and shotgun are good enough for patrol officers, if the situation requires more than that everyone can wait for SWAT.
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Originally Posted By floridacop:
Originally Posted By Leisure_Shoot:
This goes along with the comments I've seen where range administrators, or police leadership, give the expectation that they don't want the officers to train too much for fear they will potentially be labeled by defense attorneys as "gun obsessed killer culture" in a shooting trial. I've hear this personally from one man who ran one, and from another man who trains police dept's. When I've mentioend it on ARF, it has been affirmed by others as their experience as well.
Some administrations are afraid of appearing to create "gunslingers". I've seen a few in my time.

ETA: You can thank these type of administrators for the old practice of handgun and shotgun are good enough for patrol officers, if the situation requires more than that everyone can wait for SWAT.
Yeah,ol Feaster put Josey Wales to shame.

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Originally Posted By ferfal308:
If there's footage of him getting shot while empty-handed and has a good lawyer... maybe he does win the lotto eventually.
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Originally Posted By ferfal308:
Originally Posted By MonkeyFist:
While I'm sure he's happy to be not dead, I don't think I'd be grinning like I won the lotto.
If there's footage of him getting shot while empty-handed and has a good lawyer... maybe he does win the lotto eventually.
The permanent disability of a bum hip along with PSPT he’s going to get paid. Probably start drawing disability too.
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