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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:43:12 PM EDT
So because there is a worker shortage they are going to pull national guard members from their jobs because of goverment mismanagment. And the feds are going to reimburse them. They say it is short term but why would they solve the problem if the Feds are going to pay for it through our taxes.



https://www-cbsnews-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/bus-driver-shortage-massachussetts-national-guard/?amp_js_v=a6&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#aoh=16316691461935&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbsnews.com%2Fnews%2Fbus-driver-shortage-massachussetts-national-guard%2F


"The safe and reliable transportation to school each day is critical to our children's safety and education," Baker wrote on Twitter Monday.


"The mission's cost will be reimbursed by the federal government, Baker said."




Link Posted: 9/14/2021 9:50:31 PM EDT
This doesn't sound very legal
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 9:51:03 PM EDT


If you have to enlist the NG to drive school buses, you are doing something really wrong.
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 9:52:01 PM EDT
Obviously the solution to the problem is more government.
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 9:52:17 PM EDT
I would have killed to ride to school in a Humvee or HEMTT when I was a kid.
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 9:52:28 PM EDT
Motor T guys or grunts?

Not sure which is worse
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 9:52:37 PM EDT
Government created problem requires more government for the solution. Brilliant!
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 9:52:49 PM EDT
So they have the proper bus training and CDL endorsement for this?
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 9:53:30 PM EDT
I don't know about Mass, but I'd love nothing more than sit around and watch SNCOs and Officers drive school buses.

Watch that retention sky rocket!
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 9:54:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By fxntime:
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Well that takes two days.
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 9:55:01 PM EDT
Will they get a special yellow ribbon with black stripes for this service?
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 9:56:04 PM EDT
Some of the drivers don’t want to pick up kids if they deem them sick. School district can be sued if these kids don’t get to go to school. Hence the need for sub school drivers
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 9:56:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Andrewsky:
I would have killed to ride to school in a Humvee or HEMTT when I was a kid.
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Yeah... A Stryker or a Bradley would be a pretty sweet ride to school...
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 9:56:19 PM EDT
You put a bunch of Prince Hall Mason Staff Sergeants driving high school girls around?  Shit, this is gonna end up like Army AIT.
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 9:56:36 PM EDT
As a tax payer I'd be PISSED. They're already paying for bussing that they're not receiving. Now their tax dollars are going to pay for the NG to drive the same busses. So effectively being billed twice for the same service, with the bonus of taking the NG guys away from their real jobs, as pointed out above.

That's a bold strategy, Cotton.
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 9:58:39 PM EDT
Had a guy in my platoon that got sent to the local school and got the license for it (think both mil and civ). Actually came in handy to be able draw a bus from the motor pool for ... reasons.
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 9:59:55 PM EDT
You know by law here in mass you have to have a cdl with a school bus endorsement to drive a school bus, probably just ignore that law
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 10:01:29 PM EDT
 It will be hilarious a decade from now and some kid is  asking her father “what did you do in the Army dad? Uncle Jayden told me about going to Syria” and the answer is “Well Cardi,while he was in Syria I first guarded a McDonalds in DC against old ladies in MAGA hats and then I drove a school bus”.
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 10:01:34 PM EDT
War fighters must LOVE this assignment.
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 10:02:11 PM EDT
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Believe it or not bus driver school gives the same amount of promotion points as ranger school.
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 10:02:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:
You put a bunch of Prince Hall Mason Staff Sergeants driving high school girls around?  Shit, this is gonna end up like Army AIT.
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Aberdeen, represent!

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Link Posted: 9/14/2021 10:02:33 PM EDT
that's going to be epic

good thing i have my butler drive my kids to private school
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 10:02:34 PM EDT
Will the older kids be manning the .50...?  
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 10:04:37 PM EDT
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They'll probably call for volunteers and get mostly the functionally retarded and unemployable bottom quarter of the Army.  Of course once those guys find out that they can't collect their VA Disabilty and mil pay for the same days, the volunteers might dry up.
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 10:05:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Special-K:


Yeah... A Stryker or a Bradley would be a pretty sweet ride to school...
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Lmao how many kids would get crushed from a strykers ramp

I was a Stryker mechanic from 05-09
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 10:09:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By outofbattery:

 It will be hilarious a decade from now and some kid is  asking her father “what did you do in the Army dad? Uncle Jayden told me about going to Syria” and the answer is “Well Cardi,while he was in Syria I first guarded a McDonalds in DC against old ladies in MAGA hats and then I drove a school bus”.
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My FIL was in the a navy Reserves and got activated in 1970 for a week because of a US Postal Service strike.
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 10:11:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Gunner226:
As a tax payer I'd be PISSED. They're already paying for bussing that they're not receiving. Now their tax dollars are going to pay for the NG to drive the same busses. So effectively being billed twice for the same service, with the bonus of taking the NG guys away from their real jobs, as pointed out above.

That's a bold strategy, Cotton.
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You did see the part where our federal taxes are going to pay for it.
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 10:14:19 PM EDT
NG making sure kids get into school, its 1968 all over again.
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 10:14:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By fxntime:
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Bus!?!?!?  Let the kids ride in the back of a Duce and a half or MRAP.
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 10:14:47 PM EDT
We can’t even do a strategic exit after 20 years I’ll be shocked if we can get school busses from point A to point B.
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 10:16:04 PM EDT
Beau could have driven that bus…
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 10:18:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:


They'll probably call for volunteers and get mostly the functionally retarded and unemployable bottom quarter of the Army.  Of course once those guys find out that they can't collect their VA Disabilty and mil pay for the same days, the volunteers might dry up.
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If they are called to duty, they will get their military pay and benefits and points towards retirement. AAlso you don't get VA disability while in the NG.  Ask me how I know you never served.
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 10:20:09 PM EDT
How long before GD is crying about the “militarization of the school busses?”
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 10:20:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DetentHunter:
Will the older kids be manning the .50...?  
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In certain areas of Chicago that would be considered an unarmed school bus.
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 10:20:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JDtalon:

You did see the part where our federal taxes are going to pay for it.
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Originally Posted By Gunner226:
As a tax payer I'd be PISSED. They're already paying for bussing that they're not receiving. Now their tax dollars are going to pay for the NG to drive the same busses. So effectively being billed twice for the same service, with the bonus of taking the NG guys away from their real jobs, as pointed out above.

That's a bold strategy, Cotton.

You did see the part where our federal taxes are going to pay for it.

The same federal government that didn't reimburse states for the capital assignment leading units to have to cancel drills?
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 10:22:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sherm8404:


My FIL was in the a navy Reserves and got activated in 1970 for a week because of a US Postal Service strike.
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I didn’t know the navy had tanks. What did they use to drive over your packages before they were delivered?
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 10:22:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MikeJGA:

If they are called to duty, they will get their military pay and benefits and points towards retirement. AAlso you don't get VA disability while in the NG.  Ask me how I know you never served.
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Originally Posted By MikeJGA:
Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:


They'll probably call for volunteers and get mostly the functionally retarded and unemployable bottom quarter of the Army.  Of course once those guys find out that they can't collect their VA Disabilty and mil pay for the same days, the volunteers might dry up.

If they are called to duty, they will get their military pay and benefits and points towards retirement. AAlso you don't get VA disability while in the NG.  Ask me how I know you never served.

I have a troop that would prove that otherwise.
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 10:24:03 PM EDT
I hope it is some salty ass sgts and they cuss the kids out as they have 5 finger death punch blaring through the speakers as they drink rip its. It will be so epic
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 10:24:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By stillerfan:
This doesn't sound very legal
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Laws lol...
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 10:24:39 PM EDT
Union Busters!
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 10:26:37 PM EDT
They're never going to fill those positions unless they pay more. IIRC that's generally a CDL job. The current generation of CDL holders isn't going to go for that, and the older ones are probably all retiring. They're competing against the entire logistics industry, that is also hurting for drivers, and offering a lot more.
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 10:27:49 PM EDT
How long before Biden withdraws them and turns Massachusetts over to the Taliban?
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 10:29:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MikeJGA:

If they are called to duty, they will get their military pay and benefits and points towards retirement. AAlso you don't get VA disability while in the NG.  Ask me how I know you never served.
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Well, for an expert on "served" you are wronger than two boys fucking.  You can absolutely collect VA Disability in the Guard and Reserve.  You can be compensated for any day that you don't collect pay from the military. You can opt to waive your drill pay if your daily Disability is higher, or you can opt to waive your Disability for duty days, its the SM's choice.

I opted the latter.

It's a mandatory annual briefing, back in the GWOT day all those fuckers were gettin' paid, and not just combat arms, the poguier the pogue, the higher the percentage.

But that's just how it works for Soldiers, in the Army reserve components.  Might be different for lawyers in JAG.


Link Posted: 9/14/2021 10:30:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By spartacus2002:
How long before Biden withdraws them and turns Massachusetts over to the Taliban?
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Link Posted: 9/14/2021 10:31:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By macro:
Obviously the solution to the problem is more government.
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And money. And more government to oversee.
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 10:31:18 PM EDT
Driving school kids? Screw that, I hope they get combat pay.
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 10:32:21 PM EDT
Barely Legal School Bus Edition
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 10:32:29 PM EDT
I have to think that abusing the NG in this manner will lead to low morale and recruiting issues in the future.

How about trying the “drive your own damn kids to school” strategy?
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 10:32:46 PM EDT
Biden should just tell them to pay more and they won’t have a shortage like he told the small business guy.
Link Posted: 9/14/2021 10:33:26 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/14/2021 10:37:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:


Well, for an expert on "served" you are wronger than two boys fucking.  You can absolutely collect VA Disability in the Guard and Reserve.  You can be compensated for any day that you don't collect pay from the military. You can opt to waive your drill pay if your daily Disability is higher, or you can opt to waive your Disability for duty days, its the SM's choice.

I opted the latter.

It's a mandatory annual briefing, back in the GWOT day all those fuckers were gettin' paid, and not just combat arms, the poguier the pogue, the higher the percentage.

But that's just how it works for Soldiers, in the Army reserve components.  Might be different for lawyers in JAG.


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Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:
Originally Posted By MikeJGA:

If they are called to duty, they will get their military pay and benefits and points towards retirement. AAlso you don't get VA disability while in the NG.  Ask me how I know you never served.


Well, for an expert on "served" you are wronger than two boys fucking.  You can absolutely collect VA Disability in the Guard and Reserve.  You can be compensated for any day that you don't collect pay from the military. You can opt to waive your drill pay if your daily Disability is higher, or you can opt to waive your Disability for duty days, its the SM's choice.

I opted the latter.

It's a mandatory annual briefing, back in the GWOT day all those fuckers were gettin' paid, and not just combat arms, the poguier the pogue, the higher the percentage.

But that's just how it works for Soldiers, in the Army reserve components.  Might be different for lawyers in JAG.




This went pretty much how I expected it to go.
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