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Posted: 9/22/2023 11:31:32 PM EST
[#1]
That’s a lot of money for a gun that needs a lot of space to get the most advantage out of it. Do you have a lot of distance available to shoot it?
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Posted: 9/23/2023 12:31:16 AM EST
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I'd take a .375 cheytac or .408 over a .50. Better ballistics.
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Posted: 9/23/2023 12:33:07 AM EST
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Better than what exactly?
Don't believe everything on the interwebz. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 12:34:18 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd take a .375 cheytac If you don't reload it's $15/rd.  https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1009907011 |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 12:44:42 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Better than what exactly? Don't believe everything on the interwebz. Well the bc is better. It is more accurate. Past 1k it has more energy on target.. Has more range. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 12:57:43 AM EST
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Quote HistoryYes it is a little expensive, but if you bought match grade 50 cal it would be expensive also https://deserttech.com/ammunition/50-bmg.php |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 1:05:10 AM EST
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The problem with their comparisons.
They don't say what round, they use custom ammo and then compare it to M33 ball. Even at .62 BC, it still outclasses most other rounds. Then move up to custom ammo and you get BC's that are 1+ No other small arms ammunition will outclass 50 BMG for penetration, period! The Mk-211 Raufous round, M20 APIT and M903 SLAP will always tell them, "that's nice, hold my beer"! |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 1:16:15 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The problem with their comparisons. They don't say what round, they use custom ammo and then compare it to M33 ball. Even at .62 BC, it still outclasses most other rounds. Then move up to custom ammo and you get BC's that are 1+ No other small arms ammunition will outclass 50 BMG for penetration, period! The Mk-211 Raufous round, M20 APIT and M903 SLAP will always tell them, "that's nice, hold my beer"! If you are talking anti material, then I agree unless we talk about 20mm. For anti personal, I'd still choose the 375 or 408. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 2:19:53 AM EST
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https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/running-a-barret-m82a1-with-a-suppressor.58275/
post 6 and on are from guys suppressing an 82 |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 8:42:34 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/running-a-barret-m82a1-with-a-suppressor.58275/ post 6 and on are from guys suppressing an 82 WOW!! Thank you for posting that!!! I honestly had no idea the M82 coud be suppressed. And while I've been told the .50bmg suppressed took it from ear plugs AND muffs to one OR the other....seems like it it just slightly louder than hearing safe and for a few rounds you'd probably be fine. I believe you just saved me $4k!  Thanks! |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 8:56:45 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you are talking anti material, then I agree unless we talk about 20mm. For anti personal, I'd still choose the 375 or 408. You may be completely correct, but I have seen the results of standard.50 ball on human targets. I don’t think you can get them any deader. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 9:43:06 AM EST
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Totally worth it. It will rip the arms off a person and will suck their brains out through their eyes even if you don't get a hit but get close enough.
All kidding aside, if I had the extra coin, I'd probably spend it on ammo... |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 9:44:07 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You may be completely correct, but I have seen the results of standard.50 ball on human targets. I don’t think you can get them any deader. A .22lr will kill. I think what he's referring to is the accuracy at a distance. An M82a1 I'd expect to be minute of pie place at 1000-1500yds whereas the other two might look like 3-4" groups. But that's with doing a bunch of math and most likely a spotter/spotting scope setup at your bench/mat. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 9:45:04 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: WOW!! Thank you for posting that!!! I honestly had no idea the M82 coud be suppressed. And while I've been told the .50bmg suppressed took it from ear plugs AND muffs to one OR the other....seems like it it just slightly louder than hearing safe and for a few rounds you'd probably be fine. I believe you just saved me $4k! Thanks! There is literally no reason to fire it without hearing protection. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 9:46:39 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Totally worth it. It will rip the arms off a person and will suck their brains out through their eyes even if you don't get a hit but get close enough. All kidding aside, if I had the extra coin, I'd probably spend it on ammo... I'm already geared up to cast and reload and have several hundred rounds of non-ball. If I pull the trigger on an M82a1 I'll buy a few thousand more primers. Already have 50lbs. of powder. Not because I shoot it more than a few rounds a year but because it never goes bad if stored right. Politicians go bad all the time. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 9:47:56 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is literally no reason to fire it without hearing protection. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: WOW!! Thank you for posting that!!! I honestly had no idea the M82 coud be suppressed. And while I've been told the .50bmg suppressed took it from ear plugs AND muffs to one OR the other....seems like it it just slightly louder than hearing safe and for a few rounds you'd probably be fine. I believe you just saved me $4k! Thanks! There is literally no reason to fire it without hearing protection. Well, bump in the night. 
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:03:02 AM EST
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Everyone should have at least one .50bmg
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:12:23 AM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You may be completely correct, but I have seen the results of standard.50 ball on human targets. I don’t think you can get them any deader. As have I. Both the m2 and the Barrett. The Barrett sucks to transport. You can get a custom .375 or .408 in a much lighter configuration around 19 to 20 lbs. 
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:14:06 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A .22lr will kill. I think what he's referring to is the accuracy at a distance. An M82a1 I'd expect to be minute of pie place at 1000-1500yds whereas the other two might look like 3-4" groups. But that's with doing a bunch of math and most likely a spotter/spotting scope setup at your bench/mat. This is exactly it. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:19:22 AM EST
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Another vote for .375 if you’re looking to do more than just make noise and shoot 3-4MOA
Cadex Shadow in .375. She hits like a motherfucker at 1 mile +.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:24:16 AM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Another vote for .375 if you’re looking to do more than just make noise and shoot 3-4MOA Cadex Shadow in .375. She hits like a motherfucker at 1 mile +. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102803/_storage_emulated_0_Download_DSC_0631_jp-2963437.JPG Wow that’s slick. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:24:19 AM EST
[#22]
You can suppress a standard 82A1. It helps to remove the accelerator and accelerator rod from the bolt carrier. With those parts still installed and using a suppressor, the area in the trigger housing that the accelerator rod impinges on will get get peened in very short order.
Barrett had a booster spring that installed between the rear of the can and the front of the upper reciever. It helped to keep the can from battering the upper reciever. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:35:00 AM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Another vote for .375 if you’re looking to do more than just make noise and shoot 3-4MOA Cadex Shadow in .375. She hits like a motherfucker at 1 mile +. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102803/_storage_emulated_0_Download_DSC_0631_jp-2963437.JPG Already have the same bipod on my avatar gun. What's the make/model and price tag for that setup with glass? Thanks |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:35:55 AM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You can suppress a standard 82A1. It helps to remove the accelerator and accelerator rod from the bolt carrier. With those parts still installed and using a suppressor, the area in the trigger housing that the accelerator rod impinges on will get get peened in very short order. Barrett had a booster spring that installed between the rear of the can and the front of the upper reciever. It helped to keep the can from battering the upper reciever. Had...as in...no longer sells them? Thanks |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:47:05 AM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You can suppress a standard 82A1. It helps to remove the accelerator and accelerator rod from the bolt carrier. With those parts still installed and using a suppressor, the area in the trigger housing that the accelerator rod impinges on will get get peened in very short order. Barrett had a booster spring that installed between the rear of the can and the front of the upper reciever. It helped to keep the can from battering the upper reciever. Interesting |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:52:03 AM EST
[#26]
Is it just me but a suppressed M82a1 sounds kinda boring. Part of the fun is the report and pressure wave that kicks you in the face especially from prone.
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:54:13 AM EST
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Posted: 9/23/2023 10:54:32 AM EST
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Posted: 9/23/2023 11:00:59 AM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is it just me but a suppressed M82a1 sounds kinda boring. Part of the fun is the report and pressure wave that kicks you in the face especially from prone. Agreed here, and neither the M82 or the M107 is what you want if you are going for accuracy. I'd jump on a Cadex if thats what you're chasing. The muzzle blast is half the fun, and you don't need to shoot beyond 1000yds to enjoy it. 
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Posted: 9/23/2023 11:07:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can suppress a standard 82A1. It helps to remove the accelerator and accelerator rod from the bolt carrier. With those parts still installed and using a suppressor, the area in the trigger housing that the accelerator rod impinges on will get get peened in very short order. Barrett had a booster spring that installed between the rear of the can and the front of the upper reciever. It helped to keep the can from battering the upper reciever. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 11:08:49 AM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryYep that’s where I got mine, I think I’m like 11k all in considering tax, the 7-35 ATACR, and Spuhr mount. I bought the applied ballistics 375 die set, got some brass and I use the Berger 379 grain brass solids and VV N570 powder to excellent results. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 11:41:20 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Agreed here, and neither the M82 or the M107 is what you want if you are going for accuracy. I'd jump on a Cadex if thats what you're chasing. The muzzle blast is half the fun, and you don't need to shoot beyond 1000yds to enjoy it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/105138/VideoCapture_20230402-112607-2963504.jpg Part of the fun of owning an M82 is blowing things to shit within 600 yards. Shooting at old washing machines at 100 yards in fun. 
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Posted: 9/23/2023 11:47:08 AM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Part of the fun of owning an M82 is blowing things to shit within 600 yards. Shooting at old washing machines at 100 yards in fun. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Agreed here, and neither the M82 or the M107 is what you want if you are going for accuracy. I'd jump on a Cadex if thats what you're chasing. The muzzle blast is half the fun, and you don't need to shoot beyond 1000yds to enjoy it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/105138/VideoCapture_20230402-112607-2963504.jpg Part of the fun of owning an M82 is blowing things to shit within 600 yards. Shooting at old washing machines at 100 yards in fun. No argument there. I have an Ooni pizza oven that is misbehaving. I might fill it with tannerite and give it the 50BMG treatment. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 11:52:29 AM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Another vote for .375 if you’re looking to do more than just make noise and shoot 3-4MOA Cadex Shadow in .375. She hits like a motherfucker at 1 mile +. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102803/_storage_emulated_0_Download_DSC_0631_jp-2963437.JPG That is impressive 
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Posted: 9/23/2023 11:56:03 AM EST
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You won't be disappointed by 50BMG unless you find yourself in a situation where you can't shoot it anywhere but this should factor into your decision to buy. In central Texas, there are a handful of ranges that allow it and a handful that don't. Those that don't simply prohibit anything over 30cal.
There are differences between the M107 and M82 beyond suppressing. Some things that come to mind:
 Alternatively, if better long range accuracy is something you're interested in (it shouldn't be) then look at a bolt-action 50BMG like the Barrett M95 or AI AX50. Otherwise 375CT, 408CT, and 416B would be cool 15-20 years ago but 338 Norma Mag is the new hot 1+ mile accuracy/payload delivery round replacing 50BMG for the US. Barrett makes MRAD barrels and factory guns in 338NM as do AI, Desert Tech, and others and everything popular these days allows you to swap in 300WM and 308 barrels to also shoot volume more affordably. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 11:59:33 AM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd take a .375 cheytac or .408 over a .50. Better ballistics. That's all fine and dandy but a .50BMG is still a flex the others don't have. Name a state that bans either of those other calibers by name? |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 1:19:55 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd take a .375 cheytac or .408 over a .50. Better ballistics. Also legal in Iowa for deer hunting, while .50BMG is not. Seriously. The law says .350-.500 bullet diameter, 500 ft-lbs muzzle energy minimum. So .30-30 isn't allowed because it's under .35, but .375 and .408 Chey-Tac, as well as .416 Barrett are perfectly OK. And DNR needs a big fuck you. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 4:32:21 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryMaybe in the future. I thought we were talking $2500-$4500 max. For $10k-$11k I'd much rather a semi-auto fiddy. Thanks though. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 4:37:28 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Agreed here, and neither the M82 or the M107 is what you want if you are going for accuracy. I'd jump on a Cadex if thats what you're chasing. The muzzle blast is half the fun, and you don't need to shoot beyond 1000yds to enjoy it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/105138/VideoCapture_20230402-112607-2963504.jpg I don't need precision. This is meant to do two very specific things.... 1) Put a smile on the face of anyone who shoots it at the range. 2) Fuck up APCs loaded with JBTs in times of tyranny. That's it. And I've got plenty of the fun ammo to maximize it's potential in doing so. My skill level is pretty much maxed out with my .308win Ruger Hunter anyways in terms of precision. Maybe if I had time to just camp out at the range for 5-6 hours every weekend I could grow to appreciate the true precision guns. But at this point, I just don't have that kind of time. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 4:42:21 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You won't be disappointed by 50BMG unless you find yourself in a situation where you can't shoot it anywhere but this should factor into your decision to buy. In central Texas, there are a handful of ranges that allow it and a handful that don't. Those that don't simply prohibit anything over 30cal. There are differences between the M107 and M82 beyond suppressing. Some things that come to mind:
https://i.imgur.com/mmTRz8j.jpg Alternatively, if better long range accuracy is something you're interested in (it shouldn't be) then look at a bolt-action 50BMG like the Barrett M95 or AI AX50. Otherwise 375CT, 408CT, and 416B would be cool 15-20 years ago but 338 Norma Mag is the new hot 1+ mile accuracy/payload delivery round replacing 50BMG for the US. Barrett makes MRAD barrels and factory guns in 338NM as do AI, Desert Tech, and others and everything popular these days allows you to swap in 300WM and 308 barrels to also shoot volume more affordably. My avatar gun is a bolt action .50 so we're good there. As far as suppressing.... I'm getting the impression that this isn't just buy a can and screw it on. It sounds like going from un-suppressed to suppressed requires several part swaps...right? Do you remember the specific parts? Thanks |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 6:03:07 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My avatar gun is a bolt action .50 so we're good there. As far as suppressing.... I'm getting the impression that this isn't just buy a can and screw it on. It sounds like going from un-suppressed to suppressed requires several part swaps...right? Do you remember the specific parts? Thanks Then the M107 is just a QD can and it's ready to go and warrantied. |
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Posted: 9/23/2023 9:00:15 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm sorry I don't remember what it was but everything was unofficial and third-hand at that point. I'm inclined to say the barrel springs and/or main spring needed a beefier version alongside the modifications that @50cal mentioned. It also depends on what can you end up using and there's no source of truth for what needs what. At the end of the day, you're trying to keep the rifle from beating itself up and shearing the handle off the bolt carrier. Then, when it's all said and done, you're entirely on the hook for all wear and tear when things break. Then the M107 is just a QD can and it's ready to go and warrantied. Sounds like the key would be to find a bunch of M82a1 owners with cans and see if they can all agree on parts and a suppressor that would make for a solid combination. If that can't be done I guess the M107 would have the advantage. Thanks |
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Posted: 9/24/2023 4:17:59 PM EST
[#43]
unsuppressed vs suppressed
 Barrett 50 Caliber M107 unsuppressed vs suppressed |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 10:57:36 AM EST
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Barrett shooting at 1,817 yards (8:23)
 Is The Barrett M82 Inaccurate? |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 11:10:01 AM EST
[#45]
Not many people have access to a range of 1500-2700 yards (2700 yards is just over 1.5 miles), and the really hot 6.5mm or 7mm cartridges will be adequate for 99% of the shooting public IF they can get access to a range out to 1500-1700 yards.
I think the 50BMG and Chey-Tac cartridges are very cool, and shooting those extreme long ranges is lots of fun, it just isn't practical for 99% of the shooting public. For those who do have access to the firearms and ranges to use the super cartridges, that is pretty cool. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 11:13:02 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s a lot of money for a gun that needs a lot of space to get the most advantage out of it. Do you have a lot of distance available to shoot it? .50 bmg guns serve two jobs. 1. Shooting shit thru tough targets at long range. 2. Shooting holes thru steel and such at close range. Thus, you don’t actually NEED a long shooting range to enjoy 50 bmg.
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Posted: 9/28/2023 6:55:45 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm sorry I don't remember what it was but everything was unofficial and third-hand at that point. I'm inclined to say the barrel springs and/or main spring needed a beefier version alongside the modifications that @50cal mentioned. It also depends on what can you end up using and there's no source of truth for what needs what. At the end of the day, you're trying to keep the rifle from beating itself up and shearing the handle off the bolt carrier. Then, when it's all said and done, you're entirely on the hook for all wear and tear when things break. Then the M107 is just a QD can and it's ready to go and warrantied. Been thinking about this. I have to imagine there would be a forum, maybe outside of ARF's 50cal forum...where there would be a TON of info and experience on those who have suppressed their M82. No? If I could find the recipe in terms of internal and spare parts as well as cans that are optimal for the platform, I could probably save the $4k and spend that on a solid optic and still be under a bare M107. Thanks |
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Posted: 9/28/2023 7:13:50 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not many people have access to a range of 1500-2700 yards (2700 yards is just over 1.5 miles), and the really hot 6.5mm or 7mm cartridges will be adequate for 99% of the shooting public IF they can get access to a range out to 1500-1700 yards. I think the 50BMG and Chey-Tac cartridges are very cool, and shooting those extreme long ranges is lots of fun, it just isn't practical for 99% of the shooting public. For those who do have access to the firearms and ranges to use the super cartridges, that is pretty cool. |
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Posted: 9/28/2023 8:00:33 AM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: you don’t need those distances to enjoy those cartridges. Heck, 50 is damned fun at 100. For sighting in my 50's I actually start at like 10yds just to get on target. Get some interested looks when I set it on the bench but even moreso when I bring the target in that close. lol |
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Posted: 9/28/2023 8:07:15 AM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: you don’t need those distances to enjoy those cartridges. Heck, 50 is damned fun at 100. No, you sure don't but when you let it fly...  Attached File |
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