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Posted: 1/27/2021 7:58:39 AM EDT
[#1]
She should sue.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 7:59:55 AM EDT
[#2]
She should own that company.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 8:00:07 AM EDT
[#3]
Sounds like she is being treated as an employee not a 1099
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Posted: 1/27/2021 8:00:31 AM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like she is being treated as an employee not a 1099 |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 8:01:44 AM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like she is being treated as an employee not a 1099 Sounds like they didn't provide security to protect their employee. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 8:08:56 AM EDT
[#6]
"Lyft corporate policy to support carjacking."
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Posted: 1/27/2021 8:09:25 AM EDT
[#7]
Fuck Lyft. They should be ashamed.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 8:16:22 AM EDT
[#8]
It's in the contract that riders and drivers agree to. Same with Uber.
If you don't want to support anti gun companies, don't contract with them. If you want to give them money, just realize they can terminate the contract at any time. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 8:25:22 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's in the contract that riders and drivers agree to. Same with Uber. If you don't want to support anti gun companies, don't contract with them. If you want to give them money, just realize they can terminate the contract at any time. Contracts don't override the 2nd Amendment! |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 8:36:15 AM EDT
[#10]
They didn't have to fire her, after the attack she probably would have quit.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 8:37:25 AM EDT
[#11]
“While on Lyft property “
So they’re making the car payments? |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 8:38:06 AM EDT
[#12]
I bet if you worked for a real taxi company they would fire you just the same way Walmart, Walgreens or every other large corporation would for carrying a gun at work.
Can anyone name a single non-Mom and Pop that allows employees to carry guns? 8nBAIT |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 8:39:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Contracts don't override the 2nd Amendment! They do if you voluntarily surrender them. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 8:40:24 AM EDT
[#14]
Does Lyft have documentation requiring employees not to carry weapons while working? Did the employee sign that documentation?
If not she should sue. And everyone of us should stop using Lyft until they make a statement and clarify their policy. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 8:43:44 AM EDT
[#15]
Rather be fired than dead.
Lyft should be ashamed. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 8:45:42 AM EDT
[#16]
Their policy is against the law in Kentucky and they'd be fucked if they tried that here.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 8:50:54 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted:They do if you voluntarily surrender them. BS. Plenty of people have sued their employer and won, for failing a drug test. This is even in states that don't allow it medically. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 9:00:00 AM EDT
[#18]
Pics of female?
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Posted: 1/27/2021 9:06:09 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I bet if you worked for a real taxi company they would fire you just the same way Walmart, Walgreens or every other large corporation would for carrying a gun at work. Can anyone name a single non-Mom and Pop that allows employees to carry guns? 8nBAIT Just because it's common doesn't make it right. Lawyers told the corporations that a robber or madman shooting employees is an "unforseen event" so they wouldn't be sued, but allowing employees to carry guns and one of them shooting a bad guy, or a negligent shooting, would result in wrongful death suits because allowing them to carry makes it a "foreseeable event" . The company would prefer that the employees were dead and the company not being sued. That says a lot about how much companies value their employees. A "human resource" indeed. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 9:09:01 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's in the contract that riders and drivers agree to. Same with Uber. If you don't want to support anti gun companies, don't contract with them. If you want to give them money, just realize they can terminate the contract at any time. So instead you think she should have just taken the beating/rape? What if it was your sister or aunt or morher? Change your ooonion any? |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 9:09:29 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted:Can anyone name a single non-Mom and Pop that allows employees to carry guns? They're not employees, they're contractors who work in their privately owned property. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 9:24:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just because it's common doesn't make it right. Lawyers told the corporations that a robber or madman shooting employees is an "unforseen event" so they wouldn't be sued, but allowing employees to carry guns and one of them shooting a bad guy, or a negligent shooting, would result in wrongful death suits because allowing them to carry makes it a "foreseeable event" . The company would prefer that the employees were dead and the company not being sued. That says a lot about how much companies value their employees. A "human resource" indeed. Interesting that “lawyers” say a shooting is unforeseeable, when clearly shootings and other workplace violence are absolutely foreseeable as probabilistic events. If we are to follow the “lawyer” logic, businesses don’t need fire extinguishers or sprinkler systems. Any argument to the contrary also applies to allowing employees to keep and Bear firearms in the workplace...in fact it is an argument for having an armory (tool crib with guns) and issuing them to trained employees. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 9:48:59 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Does Lyft have documentation requiring employees not to carry weapons while working? Did the employee sign that documentation? If not she should sue. And everyone of us should stop using Lyft until they make a statement and clarify their policy. Lyft drivers are not employees, they run their own business getting work from the app. Many also use Uber and other ride share apps. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 9:52:43 AM EDT
[#24]
Cheaper for you to die for the company bottom line than to get sued by the bad guy and the family. All feel good stuff, criminals don't follow the law and don't care.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 9:53:40 AM EDT
[#25]
Good for her!
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Posted: 1/27/2021 9:54:26 AM EDT
[#26]
It beats the alternative!
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Posted: 1/27/2021 10:05:15 AM EDT
[#27]
Thankfully she is alive to now sue their sorry a$$es. It beats them (possibly) sending flowers to her funeral while they post a "Want Ad" to replace her.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 10:08:55 AM EDT
[#28]
Huh, I thought “women being assaulted” was higher on the liberal totem pole than “being anti-gun”.
We’ll see if the privilege market makes a correction and Lyft dials this back. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 10:17:29 AM EDT
[#29]
Quoted: Quoted: It's in the contract that riders and drivers agree to. Same with Uber. If you don't want to support anti gun companies, don't contract with them. If you want to give them money, just realize they can terminate the contract at any time. Contracts don't override the 2nd Amendment! Quoted: So instead you think she should have just taken the beating/rape? What if it was your sister or aunt or morher? Change your ooonion any? Quoted: it would appear that Lyft placed her in an unsafe environment... |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 10:17:37 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: She should sue. it would appear that Lyft placed her in an unsafe environment... KNEW there were preventative safety measures available(CCW) AND not only were those preventative safety measures against company policy they FIRED my client for using them... That is like saying Lyft drivers cant use seatbelts, then when one has a seat belt bruise after it saves their life firing them... |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 10:18:38 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Their policy is against the law in Kentucky and they'd be fucked if they tried that here. Same in TX. Employers cannot prohibit employees from carrying/stowing in their personal vehicles even when on company grounds. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 10:19:45 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So instead you think she should have just taken the beating/rape? What if it was your sister or aunt or morher? Change your ooonion any? Don’t be obtuse. That’s not what was said. This person agreed to a contract. The other party is holding her to the terms of that contract. Sometimes you get away with violating the terms of the contract. Sometimes you don’t. Sometimes it’s worth it even if you don’t get away with it. Clearly this is one of those times. But - should we be a gray at a party to a contract for enforcing the terms of that contract? Or should we be angry that a party would create such negligent terms in their contract that disacknowlwdges reality, and shop accordingly? |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 10:20:03 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Rather be fired than dead. Lyft should be ashamed. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 10:22:14 AM EDT
[#34]
The large corporations look at an employee or contractor wrongfully shooting someone while working as a greater liability than the employee/contractor getting hurt because they didn't have a gun.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 10:22:18 AM EDT
[#35]
Oh well, it was a calculated risk the woman took to carry even though it was against company policy. Good for her. Of course pyft could have taken the high road and kept their traps shut, but that's a road liberal trash doesn't know how to take.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 10:24:04 AM EDT
[#36]
The lawsuit probably isn't worth the juice for the squeeze, although it would be fun to see on principle.
She should probably just recognize this as a great opportunity to find a better job or business idea to be part of instead of just being a glorified rickshaw operator. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 10:27:33 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I bet if you worked for a real taxi company they would fire you just the same way Walmart, Walgreens or every other large corporation would for carrying a gun at work. Can anyone name a single non-Mom and Pop that allows employees to carry guns? 8nBAIT |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 10:28:03 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So instead you think she should have just taken the beating/rape? What if it was your sister or aunt or morher? Change your ooonion any? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's in the contract that riders and drivers agree to. Same with Uber. If you don't want to support anti gun companies, don't contract with them. If you want to give them money, just realize they can terminate the contract at any time. So instead you think she should have just taken the beating/rape? What if it was your sister or aunt or morher? Change your ooonion any? I think you need to reread what he said. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 10:28:56 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Contracts don't override the 2nd Amendment! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's in the contract that riders and drivers agree to. Same with Uber. If you don't want to support anti gun companies, don't contract with them. If you want to give them money, just realize they can terminate the contract at any time. Contracts don't override the 2nd Amendment! This, and she should sue. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 10:35:28 AM EDT
[#40]
Good for her. I'm sure she can go out and get another side hustle as a GrubHub or Uber driver (and keep carrying). These aren't exactly "careers" anybody gives a shit about.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 10:40:50 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I bet if you worked for a real taxi company they would fire you just the same way Walmart, Walgreens or every other large corporation would for carrying a gun at work. Can anyone name a single non-Mom and Pop that allows employees to carry guns? 8nBAIT Conrad’s Auto Recycling.....employees are permitted CC on company property and in company vehicles. The cookie lady...employees are permitted CC on company property. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 10:44:39 AM EDT
[#42]
At what point do enumerated rights end and personal preference/property rights begin?
This country has a problem actually drawing a straight fucking line in regards to this shit, and it’s grown into a shitshow. When does a company actually end up being responsible for the actions of a contractor/employee? This has become a problem due to all the sorry faggots that sue the employer rather than the employee because the employer has money. My argument would be “willfull negligence,” as in, say... Knowing someone is unhinged and prone to violent outbursts, and it can be proven that the company is aware of such, but fails to act. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 10:47:25 AM EDT
[#43]
THERE BUSINESS THEY'RE RULES DON'T LIKE IT LEAVE IT THIS IS THE U.S.A.
or something like that |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 10:55:19 AM EDT
[#44]
Meh. Sometimes your life is worth breaking some companies employee contract.
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Posted: 1/27/2021 10:59:33 AM EDT
[#45]
"Lyft supports the rape and murder of women"
That message needs to go viral. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 11:00:47 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: THERE BUSINESS THEY'RE RULES DON'T LIKE IT LEAVE IT THIS IS THE U.S.A. or something like that The Company belongs to the shareholders, not leftist fucks in upper management. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 11:01:46 AM EDT
[#47]
She was giving rides to strangers in Cleveland at 1:00am.
File under, "Duh". Glad she's alive, but she either knew what was going to happen (hence the gun), or she's a Darwin candidate who likes to play stupid games. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 11:02:18 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like she is being treated as an employee not a 1099 |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 11:02:42 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: THERE BUSINESS THEY'RE RULES DON'T LIKE IT LEAVE IT THIS IS THE U.S.A. or something like that Or, my car, my rules? |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 11:17:02 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: THERE BUSINESS THEY'RE RULES DON'T LIKE IT LEAVE IT THIS IS THE U.S.A. or something like that To a point. No company or person should, by contract, be able get us to surrender our enumerated rights...yet here we are. |
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