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Posted: 1/24/2022 7:45:55 PM EDT
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I haven't had it in a long time, but I remember it being like a big bold Cab. I didn't think it was worth the price tag at the time and it wasn't even close to $400.
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Posted: 1/24/2022 7:50:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I haven't had it in a long time, but I remember it being like a big bold Cab. I didn't think it was worth the price tag at the time and it wasn't even close to $400. was it very dry? yeah this is a 2014, where I have read that the 2013 or the 2019 were better years. |
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Posted: 1/24/2022 7:51:22 PM EDT
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I had some several years ago and I was underwhelmed. Now Jarvis is a whole other story.
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Posted: 1/24/2022 7:57:27 PM EDT
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Wow, Opus One, I haven't had it in a very long time. I was a big Robert Mondavi guy back in the 1980s and 90s. My dad had cases of the Mondavi 1977 Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon in the basement around 1987/88 and I used to sneak a bottle, buy some 2-inch thick steaks and my buddies and I would be in heaven (sometimes we would even let the girlfriends in!). When Mondavi and Rothschild got together it was a big deal in the wine world.
$400 tho... |
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Posted: 1/24/2022 8:08:21 PM EDT
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It's a very fair price, retail in fact without the usual 2-3x restaurant markup.
My personal opinion of Opus is that it's a great $100 wine. That's still a helluva compliment. What else do they have on the list? How about Bordeaux? ETA: Store price? Nah. It would be a fair restaurant find, but nothing special about that store price or even that wine really. |
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Posted: 1/24/2022 8:09:44 PM EDT
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Jarvis for Cabs or California red. Jarvis is the best wine I’ve ever tried and I’ve been able to try a lot. ( Restaurant business in past life). I’ve had many good ones at all different price points, but this is one that always stood out from the others. It’s like drinking silk. I’m a Scotch guy these days but your thread has me thinking about picking up a bottle tomorrow if I can find it.
On the flip side sometimes when you celebrate you have to scratch the itch. If you’ve always wanted to try it then pop the cork. You only live once and what people like here is subjective. |
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Posted: 1/24/2022 8:11:18 PM EDT
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So what makes this worth $400?
Serious question |
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Posted: 1/24/2022 8:13:05 PM EDT
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I would take a bottle of Venge over Opus
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Posted: 1/24/2022 8:14:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/24/2022 8:18:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would take a bottle of Venge over Opus |
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Posted: 1/24/2022 8:18:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Jarvis for Cabs or California red. Jarvis is the best wine I’ve ever tried and I’ve been able to try a lot. ( Restaurant business in past life). I’ve had many good ones at all different price points, but this is one that always stood out from the others. It’s like drinking silk. I’m a Scotch guy these days but your thread has me thinking about picking up a bottle tomorrow if I can find it. On the flip side sometimes when you celebrate you have to scratch the itch. If you’ve always wanted to try it then pop the cork. You only live once and what people like here is subjective. I'm going to try Jarvis this weekend. Thanks for the recommendation. I was a scotch guy too for may years - Johnnie Walker Blue was a blend that beat many of the single malts I liked. So if you say Jarvis is smooth, I want to try it. |
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Posted: 1/24/2022 8:18:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's a very fair price, retail in fact without the usual 2-3x restaurant markup. My personal opinion of Opus is that it's a great $100 wine. That's still a helluva compliment. What else do they have on the list? How about Bordeaux? ETA: Store price? Nah. It would be a fair restaurant find, but nothing special about that store price or even that wine really. I had a couple cases of Opus when it was approximately $120-ish a bottle and it was great. $400 great, no way Jose. There are a bunch of great wines in the $100-$125 range. I don’t see a $90 Caymus being 1/4 as good as a $400 Opus, they are about even. |
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Posted: 1/24/2022 8:19:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So what makes this worth $400? Serious question It's hard to say if you're not heavy into wines and their production, pedegree, and process. The fact Baron Philipe and Mondavi were involved adds to it too. The bottle I showed just above was about 360-380, and that was with industry discount and I picked it up directly from the winemaker at Opus One. Their facility is out of this world. It looks like a James Bond villian's lair. Their attention to detail is incredible in the vinification process, more so than any I've ever seen at a winery that size. Are there better wines? Yes. Cheaper too. But the same can be said for Mercedes, Louis Vuitton, etc. |
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Posted: 1/24/2022 8:21:27 PM EDT
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I have had Opus when it was cheaper. It was good but I don’t know if I would pay that. But if you want it go for it.
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Posted: 1/24/2022 8:30:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I had a couple cases of Opus when it was approximately $120-ish a bottle and it was great. $400 great, no way Jose. There are a bunch of great wines in the $100-$125 range. I don’t see a $90 Caymus being 1/4 as good as a $400 Opus, they are about even. Good winemaking team, good grapes, they have it going on pretty reliably in good vintages. I'm a big fan of the Bordeaux style blend too, like Opus and Dominus. I did the cult winery mailing list thing. Wines like Araujo and Bryant and Colgin were amazing wines under $150, until they weren't. Chuck Wagners good but woody Caymus Reserve was similarly priced, and a whole lot easier to find for most. California, especially Napa Cabernets, is richly priced vs. similar wines from overseas imho. I can always find a better, cheaper wine from there. Not many people going to appreciate a humble brag about Leoville Las Cases on AR15 though. |
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Posted: 1/24/2022 8:31:45 PM EDT
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IWGBPSE
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Posted: 1/24/2022 8:33:25 PM EDT
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My wife & I bought a bottle for our wedding, year ago…we were disappointed when it was compared to lesser expensive ($80-$100/bottle) cabs.
But YOLO. If you can afford it & want to try it—buy it. Typical vintage Caymus cab is better than Opus One, but maybe my palate is “stunted.” ETA: yes, it’s dry. A “greener” version/less currant/cherry than Caymus or Steltzner Reserve. |
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Posted: 1/24/2022 8:33:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/24/2022 8:36:18 PM EDT
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I had a bottle of 1976 Opus One, it was a futures wine given to me as a gift in 76, I properly stored it until I drank it sometime in the 90's.
It was an excellent wine and at the time I drank it the replacement cost was $350/bottle. |
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Posted: 1/24/2022 8:57:41 PM EDT
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I was working in the Napa Valley when that was a $100.00 bottle. We had t-shirts that said “It takes a lot of beer to make good wine”.
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Posted: 1/24/2022 9:03:52 PM EDT
[#21]
Do it.
And then you'll be like "Why the fuck did I just drop $400 bucks on this?" |
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Posted: 1/24/2022 9:12:57 PM EDT
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Never had it.
However, I have been underwhelmed by almost every over $100 bottle I’ve had the luxury to sample. There are so many really good sub $20-50 bottles these days. The best red I ever had was a $75 petite Syrah from Washington state. Roc Bloc I believe. Personally, while I’ve had very expensive wine… Never paid more than $75 on my dime. |
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Posted: 1/24/2022 10:03:53 PM EDT
[#23]
$400 is high even for Opus.
You can get wines that are less money that are every bit as good or better than Opus. |
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Posted: 1/24/2022 10:10:42 PM EDT
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I’d rather spend $75 on a bottle of Silver Oak (Alexander Valley) and then spend the rest on some quality A5 Wagyu
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Posted: 1/24/2022 11:06:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm going to try Jarvis this weekend. Thanks for the recommendation. I was a scotch guy too for may years - Johnnie Walker Blue was a blend that beat many of the single malts I liked. So if you say Jarvis is smooth, I want to try it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Jarvis for Cabs or California red. Jarvis is the best wine I’ve ever tried and I’ve been able to try a lot. ( Restaurant business in past life). I’ve had many good ones at all different price points, but this is one that always stood out from the others. It’s like drinking silk. I’m a Scotch guy these days but your thread has me thinking about picking up a bottle tomorrow if I can find it. On the flip side sometimes when you celebrate you have to scratch the itch. If you’ve always wanted to try it then pop the cork. You only live once and what people like here is subjective. I'm going to try Jarvis this weekend. Thanks for the recommendation. I was a scotch guy too for may years - Johnnie Walker Blue was a blend that beat many of the single malts I liked. So if you say Jarvis is smooth, I want to try it. Blue is some great stuff. On a recommendation I bought a $60 bottle of Cardhu and I’d recommend you try it. Better than Black maybe not as good as Blue but damn good. As far as the Jarvis I hope you like it as much as I hyped it. I typically find high priced spirts to be hit or miss. Some is worth every penny and others feel like a giant waste of cash. |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 1:14:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryNice... 
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Posted: 1/25/2022 1:17:21 AM EDT
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ahh I am glad I made this thread, sounds like it's going to be too dry for me.
Any recommendations on a good merlot or similar sweetness? I just can't do dry, reminds me too much of communion wine as a kid |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 1:19:59 AM EDT
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Fuck that. By a nice bottle of bourbon or scotch. You can nurse a bottle over a few years, one maybe two nights for a bottle of wine.
Go grab a Glenfiddich 21 or Mccallan 18 and still have $100 left over for another decent bottle. |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 1:21:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryWhen I grew up in the mid 90's, my parents had verticals of Opus One. I can only imagine what was in that 700 bottle fridge. So many great wines around $100. Beyond that price point the returns are diminishing quickly. That ego, though.... |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 1:23:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I had a couple cases of Opus when it was approximately $120-ish a bottle and it was great. $400 great, no way Jose. There are a bunch of great wines in the $100-$125 range. I don’t see a $90 Caymus being 1/4 as good as a $400 Opus, they are about even. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's a very fair price, retail in fact without the usual 2-3x restaurant markup. My personal opinion of Opus is that it's a great $100 wine. That's still a helluva compliment. What else do they have on the list? How about Bordeaux? ETA: Store price? Nah. It would be a fair restaurant find, but nothing special about that store price or even that wine really. I had a couple cases of Opus when it was approximately $120-ish a bottle and it was great. $400 great, no way Jose. There are a bunch of great wines in the $100-$125 range. I don’t see a $90 Caymus being 1/4 as good as a $400 Opus, they are about even. You beat me to it. Caymus is excellent. I like Del Dotto, a lot, also. So much good wine, so little time. |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 1:26:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck that. By a nice bottle of bourbon or scotch. You can nurse a bottle over a few years, one maybe two nights for a bottle of wine. Go grab a Glenfiddich 21 or Mccallan 18 and still have $100 left over for another decent bottle. I can't stand bourbon, scotch, whiskey, etc. I've tried some quality ones as my good buddy is a scotch aficionado and I just don't like it. I do really like Rum and Tequila but you have to watch the Rum as they try to make it taste like whiskey or someshit |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 1:28:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck that. By a nice bottle of bourbon or scotch. You can nurse a bottle over a few years, one maybe two nights for a bottle of wine. Go grab a Glenfiddich 21 or Mccallan 18 and still have $100 left over for another decent bottle. I hate Scotch. Buy some nice bourbon and a bottle of Caymus. You'll be happier. Merlot? Fuck it, buy some Duck Horn. Put the rest on black.
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Posted: 1/25/2022 1:30:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hate Scotch. Buy some nice bourbon and a bottle of Caymus. You'll be happier. Merlot? Fuck it, buy some Duck Horn. Put the rest on black. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Fuck that. By a nice bottle of bourbon or scotch. You can nurse a bottle over a few years, one maybe two nights for a bottle of wine. Go grab a Glenfiddich 21 or Mccallan 18 and still have $100 left over for another decent bottle. I hate Scotch. Buy some nice bourbon and a bottle of Caymus. You'll be happier. Merlot? Fuck it, buy some Duck Horn. Put the rest on black. I do like Duck Horn I just don't liek cabs |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 1:30:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ahh I am glad I made this thread, sounds like it's going to be too dry for me. Any recommendations on a good merlot or similar sweetness? I just can't do dry, reminds me too much of communion wine as a kid Rombauer is a favorite of mine and about $50-60 a bottle. If your not a wine drinker regularly, don't spend much more than that. You probably won't find it for sale locally, but Williamsburg Winery Adagio is amazing ($68). Its a meritage blend. probably a little more tannins than a merlot, but not at much as a cab. Right now you can get 2017 vintage which was a great year for east coast wines. Buy 2, drink one, put one aside for a decade. I think we killed a 2008 at Christmas and have 5 other bottles in rotation. Need to order some more while 2017 is available. The winery will also sell older bottles out of the cellar if available. https://store.nexternal.com/wmbgstore/2017-adagio-p775.aspx |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 1:31:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rombauer is a favorite of mine and about $50-60 a bottle. If your not a wine drinker regularly, don't spend much more than that. You probably won't find it for sale locally, but Williamsburg Winery Adagio is amazing ($68). Its a meritage blend. probably a little more tannins than a merlot, but not at much as a cab. Right now you can get 2017 vintage which was a great year for east coast wines. Buy 2, drink one, put one aside for a decade. I think we killed a 2008 at Christmas and have 5 other bottles in rotation. Need to order some more while 2017 is available. The winery will also sell older bottles out of the cellar if available. https://store.nexternal.com/wmbgstore/2017-adagio-p775.aspx Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: ahh I am glad I made this thread, sounds like it's going to be too dry for me. Any recommendations on a good merlot or similar sweetness? I just can't do dry, reminds me too much of communion wine as a kid Rombauer is a favorite of mine and about $50-60 a bottle. If your not a wine drinker regularly, don't spend much more than that. You probably won't find it for sale locally, but Williamsburg Winery Adagio is amazing ($68). Its a meritage blend. probably a little more tannins than a merlot, but not at much as a cab. Right now you can get 2017 vintage which was a great year for east coast wines. Buy 2, drink one, put one aside for a decade. I think we killed a 2008 at Christmas and have 5 other bottles in rotation. Need to order some more while 2017 is available. The winery will also sell older bottles out of the cellar if available. https://store.nexternal.com/wmbgstore/2017-adagio-p775.aspx Interesting...I'll look for them In Nola there is a place called Martin's Wine Cellar...if they don't have it, no one will. So Ill make a pass necxt time Im over there |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 1:45:12 AM EDT
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Cabs can be very sweet or more aged and refined, to me still sweet. Cabs are overdone, most everything has been overdone. We need a new wine, new soil and climate.
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Posted: 1/25/2022 2:06:04 AM EDT
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Meh..
That’s 2 bottles of Seasmoke “Ten” Pinot Nor and 2 Bottles of Blanton's. That goes a lot further for me ! |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 9:00:56 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I do like Duck Horn I just don't liek cabs Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Fuck that. By a nice bottle of bourbon or scotch. You can nurse a bottle over a few years, one maybe two nights for a bottle of wine. Go grab a Glenfiddich 21 or Mccallan 18 and still have $100 left over for another decent bottle. I hate Scotch. Buy some nice bourbon and a bottle of Caymus. You'll be happier. Merlot? Fuck it, buy some Duck Horn. Put the rest on black. I do like Duck Horn I just don't liek cabs Nothing wrong with Duck Horn. Stag's Leap makes a darn good merlot, also. Point being, unless you're showing off of just flat have cash to burn, it's hard to get your return on a $400 bottle of wine. Not to say that Opus isn't excellent. |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 9:03:30 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Cabs can be very sweet or more aged and refined, to me still sweet. Cabs are overdone, most everything has been overdone. We need a new wine, new soil and climate. Have you tried South American or French wines? The flavor profile is very different from Napa valley wines. If you're bored with Napa wines, explore wines from different countries. |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 9:14:30 AM EDT
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Quoted: I neve had it, and I see that it is a blend promarily of a cab, which I am not a fan of dry wines, that's why I like merlot, but how is this wine? fairly dry? Looking to celebrate a goal I achieved today. If it was $100, I would maybe think about it. @$400. Not a chance. |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 9:51:22 AM EDT
[#41]
Fo or not to fo is not a question I can answer for you.
I can offer congrats on your personal milestone.  |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 11:15:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fo or not to fo is not a question I can answer for you. I can offer congrats on your personal milestone. thanks man! it's somthing I have been working on since 2006 |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 11:50:40 AM EDT
[#43]
We've enjoyed most of the "big booming cabs" and Caymus, Opus and others were well enjoyed. Now we prefer Gergich Hills and Jordan. Most bottles that are over $100 aren't worth it IMHO. Being older and less tolerant of tannins I'm a fan of what my stomach can take that matches what my mouth likes.
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Posted: 1/25/2022 12:06:07 PM EDT
[#44]
Quoted: I neve had it, and I see that it is a blend promarily of a cab, which I am not a fan of dry wines, that's why I like merlot, but how is this wine? fairly dry? Looking to celebrate a goal I achieved today. |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 12:10:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What goal? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I neve had it, and I see that it is a blend promarily of a cab, which I am not a fan of dry wines, that's why I like merlot, but how is this wine? fairly dry? Looking to celebrate a goal I achieved today. finally got a center console to fish pelagics, a real deal offshore machine, it's a 2016 and has the engines I wanted.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 2:16:54 PM EDT
[#46]
F0 ! and F0 HARD !!
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:18:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: finally got a center console to fish pelagics, a real deal offshore machine, it's a 2016 and has the engines I wanted. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/277411/TwinVee_jpeg-2253890.JPG @2011 Congratulations!! I am looking at a Prowler 31’ tomorrow. First soirée into twin-vee hulls. |
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Posted: 1/27/2022 6:28:32 PM EDT
[#48]
Gundlach Bundschu Vintage Reserve Cab
Gundlach Bundschu estate Merlot |
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Posted: 1/27/2022 11:40:41 PM EDT
[#49]
What, $400.00 for Opus!
Buy two. |
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Posted: 1/28/2022 11:18:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @2011 Congratulations!! I am looking at a Prowler 31’ tomorrow. First soirée into twin-vee hulls. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: finally got a center console to fish pelagics, a real deal offshore machine, it's a 2016 and has the engines I wanted. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/277411/TwinVee_jpeg-2253890.JPG @2011 Congratulations!! I am looking at a Prowler 31’ tomorrow. First soirée into twin-vee hulls. Congrats man! Dude, I got to check out the 31 prowler at the Miami Show, that's a freaking beasts of a hull. |
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