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Posted: 12/27/2020 6:11:55 AM EDT
Sur Ron X. One of the best purchases i have ever made. Anyone else cruising ebikes? Lets see em!
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Posted: 12/27/2020 6:23:08 AM EDT
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That bike is expensive, but nice. This thread is a tag.
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Posted: 12/27/2020 6:35:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That bike is expensive, but nice. This thread is a tag. Most fun i have had with a toy as an adult. |
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Posted: 12/27/2020 6:52:24 AM EDT
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How fast will it run, without the mods? I'd like to have one of those bikes equipped with good quality LED lights, and carry my back pack for a speedy trip to Walmart or the local Chinese take-out place.
Not relevant to the thread, but when I take medium-to-long walks, My backpack has a few ice packs and four of five bottles of water, sanitizing wipes, toilet paper, chewing gum, flashlights, extra cans of snuff, and other assorted goodies. |
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Posted: 12/27/2020 7:09:54 AM EDT
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Are there any decent ones under a grand?
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Posted: 12/27/2020 7:11:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How fast will it run, without the mods? I'd like to have one of those bikes equipped with good quality LED lights, and carry my back pack for a speedy trip to Walmart or the local Chinese take-out place. Not relevant to the thread, but when I take medium-to-long walks, My backpack has a few ice packs and four of five bottles of water, sanitizing wipes, toilet paper, chewing gum, flashlights, extra cans of snuff, and other assorted goodies. They come locked at 35mph, but all you have to do is snip a wire to unlock it. My top speed so far has been 48 in cold weather. Im thinking i may be able to get 50mph in the summer. There are guys hitting 90mph with contoller and battery upgrades. Its a capable motor. I use mine for exactly the kind of things your talking about. I have the upgraded fisher fab house headlight which is great. I got a larger sprocket, for more low end torque im excited to try, because really i dont need the top end right now, even though it is nice to have. Its pretty torqy on the low end stock however. Really the only upgrades it needs out of the box are brake pads, tires, and a beefier bash guard. |
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Posted: 12/27/2020 7:11:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are there any decent ones under a grand? 8nBAIT Probably best building your own in that price range. |
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Posted: 12/27/2020 7:13:13 AM EDT
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Can that thing pop a wheelie?
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Posted: 12/27/2020 7:15:15 AM EDT
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Where's the carb
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Posted: 12/27/2020 7:17:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can that thing pop a wheelie? Wheelies for days. Lots of guys get the sur ron just for wheelies. Im not good enough to do anything besides nice throttle wheelies, but i can get it to throttle wheelies super reliably. I have heard once i instal my large sprocket ill be able to get reliable throttle wheelies out to about 25mph. After that you need to pop and find a balance point. Again, im not an expert. |
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Posted: 12/27/2020 7:29:38 AM EDT
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Quoted: Sur Ron X. One of the best purchases i have ever made. Anyone else cruising ebikes? Lets see em! https://i.ibb.co/dLdQ4jn/zx.jpg" target="_blank">https://i.ibb.co/dLdQ4jn/zx.jpg I wanna see the school bus. |
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Posted: 12/27/2020 7:33:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wanna see the school bus. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Sur Ron X. One of the best purchases i have ever made. Anyone else cruising ebikes? Lets see em! https://i.ibb.co/dLdQ4jn/zx.jpg" target="_blank">https://i.ibb.co/dLdQ4jn/zx.jpg I wanna see the school bus. Thats my future project for next summer. Used it to move across the country recently. By this time next year it will be a fully converted schoolie. Its a 12 window 95 international. Great motor. |
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Posted: 12/27/2020 7:43:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wheelies for days. Lots of guys get the sur ron just for wheelies. Im not good enough to do anything besides nice throttle wheelies, but i can get it to throttle wheelies super reliably. I have heard once i instal my large sprocket ill be able to get reliable throttle wheelies out to about 25mph. After that you need to pop and find a balance point. Again, im not an expert. It sounds fun. I grew up riding bikes and even delayed getting my drivers license a year because I just wanted to keep riding my bike. Moved to KC area and it's too hilly for pleasure riding. Maybe one of these electric bikes is the answer. |
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Posted: 12/27/2020 7:47:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It sounds fun. I grew up riding bikes and even delayed getting my drivers license a year because I just wanted to keep riding my bike. Moved to KC area and it's too hilly for pleasure riding. Maybe one of these electric bikes is the answer. You wouldnt regret getting one. They are a blast. |
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Posted: 12/27/2020 7:57:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You wouldnt regret getting one. They are a blast. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It sounds fun. I grew up riding bikes and even delayed getting my drivers license a year because I just wanted to keep riding my bike. Moved to KC area and it's too hilly for pleasure riding. Maybe one of these electric bikes is the answer. You wouldnt regret getting one. They are a blast. What would be the average range on paved roads be? 185 pounds, backpack with 15-25 pounds of stuff, and my wrist puts the pedal to the metal, so to speak. I'm a wide open haul ass type of guy.  Edited to add - The Walmart would be a round trip of 14 miles. |
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Posted: 12/27/2020 8:03:50 AM EDT
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I like the exercise I get with a bike, but will probably get one of these when I get older if my current range decreases.
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Posted: 12/27/2020 8:11:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like the exercise I get with a bike, but will probably get one of these when I get older if my current range decreases. Studies have shown that the vast majority of physical benefits gained from riding traditional bikes translates into ebikes. Not sure if true or not, but there have been some studies done on the topic to find. Either way, they sure are a lot of fun! |
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Posted: 12/27/2020 8:15:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What would be the average range on paved roads be? 185 pounds, backpack with 15-25 pounds of stuff, and my wrist puts the pedal to the metal, so to speak. I'm a wide open haul ass type of guy. Edited to add - The Walmart would be a round trip of 14 miles. I am a heavy throttle rider as well. Im getting about 25-30 miles depending on how heavy im working the throttle, and outside temps. In freeing or close to freezing temps im losing about 5 miles of distance and 5 mph on the top end. Im 155 pounds. If you cruise it in ep mode and top out at 35mph, you should have enough range to get to your walmart and back reliably. If your slaming the throttle on a cold day, your going to be pushing it. ETA: if your looking for a more cafe racer style that has some more range and is built specificly for road only type riding, check out the onyx. ETA2: also consider state laws on ebikes. They all have their own rules, and the sur ron does not come stock with pedals, although you can add them. As im riding currently its a loophole. |
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Posted: 12/27/2020 8:17:19 AM EDT
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 It is awesome |
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Posted: 12/27/2020 8:19:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryIs that a class two? Pedal assist only, or a throttle that can move the bike without pedal assist? Nice bike! |
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Posted: 12/27/2020 8:31:51 AM EDT
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We have two LectricXP’s. They’re pretty awesome, and popular with the RV community.
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Posted: 12/27/2020 8:32:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We have two LectricXP’s. They’re pretty awesome, and popular with the RV community. Those seem to be pretty popular. |
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Posted: 12/27/2020 8:41:09 AM EDT
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In before the haters.
We have two. My wife has had her Giant Explore for a while because she was always lagging behind. She loves it but would smoke me on the long grades. She begged me to get one. So I finally broke down this past fall and got a Roam E. Her plan was to do some longer trails in our travels. Since we would often have no other couple to "car spot" with or access to shuttle services, we would have to do "out and back" type rides a lot for the trail systems we would want to see in entirety. The Ebikes make it possible. They take the edge off of hills and if you had to blast back to beat weather, you could sport mode it all the way back (but use way more battery) And ours, due to where we want to take them, have no throttle and we use them on the lowest two settings to save battery. We have to pedal to get them to do anything. To test it out, we did a nice long ride this far from a National Forest campground in somewhat the middle of a trail. We did 93 miles in 2 days and it was great. A nice paced full cardio day out on them, as intended and saw some great scenery. The 400W battery packs on the lowest setting was impressive. Had plenty of juice for the rides using them wisely.. Since then, we've done a few 35+ milers.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 12/27/2020 8:45:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In before the haters. We have two. My wife has had her Giant Explore for a while because she was always lagging behind. She loves it but would smoke me on the long grades. She begged me to get one. So I finally broke down this past fall and got a Roam E. Her plan was to do some longer trails in our travels. Since we would often have no other couple to "car spot" with or access to shuttle services, we would have to do "out and back" type rides a lot for the trail systems we would want to see in entirety. The Ebikes make it possible. And ours, due to where we want to take them, have no throttle and we use them on the lowest two settings to save battery. We have to pedal to get them to do anything. To test it out, we did a nice long ride this far from a National Forest campground in somewhat the middle of a trail. We did 93 miles in 2 days and it was great. A nice paced full cardio day out on them, as intended and saw some great scenery. Since then, we've done a few 35+ milers.https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/130027/20201009_115536_jpg-1750298.JPG Awesome! Im putting 15-20 miles on mine a day right now just exploring places around town i never would have otherwise. |
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Posted: 12/27/2020 8:47:20 AM EDT
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I have one that Costco sold, I can do 22 mph and it has a Samsung battery and iirc a German motor
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Posted: 12/27/2020 8:54:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Probably best building your own in that price range. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Are there any decent ones under a grand? 8nBAIT Probably best building your own in that price range. Hit me with some links? I was all ready to sink my time into a 3d printer but that can wait. Edit. 2strokestrappedtobike.jpg |
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Posted: 12/27/2020 9:06:04 AM EDT
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Quoted: Sur Ron X. One of the best purchases i have ever made. Anyone else cruising ebikes? Lets see em! https://i.ibb.co/dLdQ4jn/zx.jpg" target="_blank">https://i.ibb.co/dLdQ4jn/zx.jpg Have a couple of these for me and the kid Great fun! |
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Posted: 12/27/2020 9:08:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can that thing pop a wheelie? My wife flipped it up over herself hitting it full throttle from a standstill |
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Posted: 12/27/2020 9:10:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am a heavy throttle rider as well. Im getting about 25-30 miles depending on how heavy im working the throttle, and outside temps. In freeing or close to freezing temps im losing about 5 miles of distance and 5 mph on the top end. Im 155 pounds. If you cruise it in ep mode and top out at 35mph, you should have enough range to get to your walmart and back reliably. If your slaming the throttle on a cold day, your going to be pushing it. ETA: if your looking for a more cafe racer style that has some more range and is built specificly for road only type riding, check out the onyx. ETA2: also consider state laws on ebikes. They all have their own rules, and the sur ron does not come stock with pedals, although you can add them. As im riding currently its a loophole. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What would be the average range on paved roads be? 185 pounds, backpack with 15-25 pounds of stuff, and my wrist puts the pedal to the metal, so to speak. I'm a wide open haul ass type of guy. Edited to add - The Walmart would be a round trip of 14 miles. I am a heavy throttle rider as well. Im getting about 25-30 miles depending on how heavy im working the throttle, and outside temps. In freeing or close to freezing temps im losing about 5 miles of distance and 5 mph on the top end. Im 155 pounds. If you cruise it in ep mode and top out at 35mph, you should have enough range to get to your walmart and back reliably. If your slaming the throttle on a cold day, your going to be pushing it. ETA: if your looking for a more cafe racer style that has some more range and is built specificly for road only type riding, check out the onyx. ETA2: also consider state laws on ebikes. They all have their own rules, and the sur ron does not come stock with pedals, although you can add them. As im riding currently its a loophole. Thank you for the info. I am very seriously thinking hard about buying myself a nice bike like that. I want that soooo badly. 
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Posted: 12/27/2020 9:21:16 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/27/2020 9:24:39 AM EDT
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We have a Biktrix Stunner 750 watt cadence sensor Class 2 opened up to 32mph and a Biktrix Juggernaut HD DUO 1500 watt cadence and torque sensors opened up to 35mph. They both have throttles and pedal assist
I will be 60 with a bad back and not the greatest heart. These things are a blast. I can now go out and ride bikes again. |
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Posted: 12/27/2020 9:28:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My wife flipped it up over herself hitting it full throttle from a standstill Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Can that thing pop a wheelie? My wife flipped it up over herself hitting it full throttle from a standstill There are dozens. Maybe hundreds of videos of people throttle wheeling it their first ride and then whiskey throttleing. Its very common on the sur ron. The electronic throttle takes some adjustment to get used to. Its become a comon thing to do to film riders take off for their first time. Its funny to watch, but the reason why no one else will ever ride my bike. The low end torque is no joke, and i cant ait to install my 64t sprocket. |
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Posted: 12/27/2020 9:29:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes but mine is bigger https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/56204/CA3B6106-8A5E-4984-A821-EAF7580C65B0_jpe-1750314.JPG I got to test drive a zero. Nice bikes! |
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Posted: 12/27/2020 9:29:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We have a Biktrix Stunner 750 watt cadence sensor Class 2 opened up to 32mph and a Biktrix Juggernaut HD DUO 1500 watt cadence and torque sensors opened up to 35mph. They both have throttles and pedal assist I will be 60 with a bad back and not the greatest heart. These things are a blast. I can now go out and ride bikes again. Awesome dude! Get it! |
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Posted: 12/27/2020 9:38:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Studies have shown that the vast majority of physical benefits gained from riding traditional bikes translates into ebikes. Not sure if true or not, but there have been some studies done on the topic to find. Either way, they sure are a lot of fun! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I like the exercise I get with a bike, but will probably get one of these when I get older if my current range decreases. Studies have shown that the vast majority of physical benefits gained from riding traditional bikes translates into ebikes. Not sure if true or not, but there have been some studies done on the topic to find. Either way, they sure are a lot of fun! Which studies, what benefits? Honest question, that seems like an amazing claim. The Sur Ron looks kind of neat. I bet in 5 years they will be even more capable. |
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Posted: 12/27/2020 9:52:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which studies, what benefits? Honest question, that seems like an amazing claim. Seems to be related to ebikers actually getting out and riding more than traditional bike riders. Im sure it also depends what class of ebike your using. Mine for example has pegs, so im getting less work in the legs than people with pedal assist for example. But the idea that ebikes are cheating, or people are lazy or old on ebikes is indeed a myth. I havent dug deep enough into the topic to speak definitively on it. I just like having fun on the ebike. These are just the first two articles that google pulled, but there are dozens of others for you to find if you wish. https://www.bicycling.com/news/a28819663/e-bike-fitness-levels-study/ https://www.newsweek.com/e-bikes-good-heart-health-study-1471604 SOme people have kne issues, some have farther distances to ride on a daily basis etc. As long as your out enjoying yourself, thats all that really matters. |
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Posted: 12/27/2020 10:09:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems to be related to ebikers actually getting out and riding more than traditional bike riders. Im sure it also depends what class of ebike your using. Mine for example has pegs, so im getting less work in the legs than people with pedal assist for example. But the idea that ebikes are cheating, or people are lazy or old on ebikes is indeed a myth. I havent dug deep enough into the topic to speak definitively on it. I just like having fun on the ebike. These are just the first two articles that google pulled, but there are dozens of others for you to find if you wish. https://www.bicycling.com/news/a28819663/e-bike-fitness-levels-study/ https://www.newsweek.com/e-bikes-good-heart-health-study-1471604 SOme people have kne issues, some have farther distances to ride on a daily basis etc. As long as your out enjoying yourself, thats all that really matters. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Which studies, what benefits? Honest question, that seems like an amazing claim. Seems to be related to ebikers actually getting out and riding more than traditional bike riders. Im sure it also depends what class of ebike your using. Mine for example has pegs, so im getting less work in the legs than people with pedal assist for example. But the idea that ebikes are cheating, or people are lazy or old on ebikes is indeed a myth. I havent dug deep enough into the topic to speak definitively on it. I just like having fun on the ebike. These are just the first two articles that google pulled, but there are dozens of others for you to find if you wish. https://www.bicycling.com/news/a28819663/e-bike-fitness-levels-study/ https://www.newsweek.com/e-bikes-good-heart-health-study-1471604 SOme people have kne issues, some have farther distances to ride on a daily basis etc. As long as your out enjoying yourself, thats all that really matters. Thanks, that makes more sense. For a casual rider, I can see that being the case. I put in around 200-250 miles a week during the warmer months. I doubt a very active rider is going to see more benefit from an e-bike. About 4 years ago I was riding up a canyon, 7 mile ascent with a 6% grade. Near the top, this guy on a mountain bike goes tearing past me. I was impressed how fast he was moving. Then I got to thinking, there is no way in hell he is generating that many watts. On the back side of the mountain I quickly caught up to him, matched his speed and started checking out his bike. He looked over at me and said “e bike”. That was the first I had ever heard of them. I think they are cool, and when my body won’t let me climb hills under my own power anymore, I will probably get one. I think where some cyclists get annoyed is by ebike riders who log faster times on Strava on hilly segments and basically leaving it on there where no one will ever beat it, or who act like they have some kind of fitness prowess because of the advantage the electric motor gives. If it gets an otherwise sedentary person out riding, then that is a good thing. For me, I enjoy the work and challenge that a good hill climb provides. I also enjoy my 100+ miles rides on the weekends. I’ll probably get an ebike in the future, but at 53, I am still going strong on my pedal bikes. |
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Posted: 12/27/2020 10:16:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks, that makes more sense. For a casual rider, I can see that being the case. I put in around 200-250 miles a week during the warmer months. I doubt a very active rider is going to see more benefit from an e-bike. About 4 years ago I was riding up a canyon, 7 mile ascent with a 6% grade. Near the top, this guy on a mountain bike goes tearing past me. I was impressed how fast he was moving. Then I got to thinking, there is no way in hell he is generating that many watts. On the back side of the mountain I quickly caught up to him, matched his speed and started checking out his bike. He looked over at me and said “e bike”. That was the first I had ever heard of them. I think they are cool, and when my body won’t let me climb hills under my own power anymore, I will probably get one. I think where some cyclists get annoyed is by ebike riders who log faster times on Strava on hilly segments and basically leaving it on there where no one will ever beat it, or who act like they have some kind of fitness prowess because of the advantage the electric motor gives. If it gets an otherwise sedentary person out riding, then that is a good thing. For me, I enjoy the work and challenge that a good hill climb provides. I also enjoy my 100+ miles rides on the weekends. I’ll probably get an ebike in the future, but at 53, I am still going strong on my pedal bikes. Hikers hate bikers. Bikers hate ebikers, And everyone hates horseback riders. Tis the nature of the beast on the trails. I just mind my own buisness and enjoy myself. Outside of board games, im not hyper competitive, but i could see how that could factor into some of the animosity traditional bike riders have towards ebikers. At least its an honest answer. Most guys go to the "they are tearing up the trails" argument, which is Ludacris. I just like to see people out enjoying themselves, especially at a time when the government wants us all inside our homes rotting away. |
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Posted: 12/27/2020 10:19:49 AM EDT
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I would love on of those but i already have a motocross bike, a mountain bike and a pedal assist mountian bike so most of my bases are covered. I will still probably get on anyway cause they look awesome.
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Posted: 12/27/2020 10:25:50 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/27/2020 7:23:32 PM EDT
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Anyone else? I wanna see em.
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Posted: 12/27/2020 7:24:59 PM EDT
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I want one but... Made in China.
FUCK CHINA. |
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Posted: 12/27/2020 7:28:33 PM EDT
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Looks fun but most of the trails ‘round he specifically say no e-bikes.
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Posted: 12/27/2020 7:31:55 PM EDT
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You take that off any sweet jumps?
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Posted: 12/27/2020 7:32:08 PM EDT
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I put one of those moped 2 cycle engines on my Beach Cruiser
25 mph kit is $89 on ebay |
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Posted: 12/27/2020 8:09:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You take that off any sweet jumps? Only when i have baseball cards in the spokes. |
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Posted: 12/28/2020 7:48:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hit me with some links? I was all ready to sink my time into a 3d printer but that can wait. Edit. 2strokestrappedtobike.jpg I think the super73's start at about 1100 Lots of guys like em. I would check those out, just kinda depends on what your looking for. |
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Posted: 12/28/2020 7:56:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What would be the average range on paved roads be? 185 pounds, backpack with 15-25 pounds of stuff, and my wrist puts the pedal to the metal, so to speak. I'm a wide open haul ass type of guy. Edited to add - The Walmart would be a round trip of 14 miles. I don’t know if I would park a $2,000 bicycle unattended at Walmart. |
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Posted: 12/28/2020 7:58:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t know if I would park a $2,000 bicycle unattended at Walmart. $3600. I just lock mine up with a bike lock, but im not in a very high crime area. I also have a gps tracker just in case. |
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Posted: 12/28/2020 8:00:14 AM EDT
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This one looks pretty sweet, but at this price I could get a good used dirt bike. I like your set-up though.
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Posted: 12/28/2020 8:27:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This one looks pretty sweet, but at this price I could get a good used dirt bike. I like your set-up though. You can get a New Cafe Racer for that amount. |
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