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Link Posted: 12/21/2020 9:51:24 AM EDT
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I came across this incase anyone was interested

https://www.reddit.com/r/cocktails/comments/5um8zh/smugglers_cove_tiki_cocktail_book_index/

it is an ingredient index of the smugglers cove recipes (does not contain amounts or techniques).

basically its a way to figure out what drinks you can make with what you have on hand, or what you need to get
Link Posted: 12/21/2020 11:17:48 AM EDT
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I tried to like the 23, but definitely thought the XO was better. That price seems high. It's $90 a bottle here.
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I thought so too, but there's only one store within 50 miles that sells the XO so whatcha gonna do? I just Googled it, and it looks like $125 is the going rate.

A different store in my area is the only store that carries 23 within 50 miles. The owner swears Zaya is better. I remind him all the time that he is wrong.

If I'm not mistaken, no stores in Alabama sold Zacapa 10 years ago. I assume it had something to do with Alabama Beverage Control. They're goofy.
Link Posted: 12/21/2020 11:27:22 AM EDT
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I thought so too, but there's only one store within 50 miles that sells the XO so whatcha gonna do? I just Googled it, and it looks like $125 is the going rate.

A different store in my area is the only store that carries 23 within 50 miles. The owner swears Zaya is better. I remind him all the time that he is wrong.

If I'm not mistaken, no stores in Alabama sold Zacapa 10 years ago. I assume it had something to do with Alabama Beverage Control. They're goofy.
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I tried to like the 23, but definitely thought the XO was better. That price seems high. It's $90 a bottle here.


I thought so too, but there's only one store within 50 miles that sells the XO so whatcha gonna do? I just Googled it, and it looks like $125 is the going rate.

A different store in my area is the only store that carries 23 within 50 miles. The owner swears Zaya is better. I remind him all the time that he is wrong.

If I'm not mistaken, no stores in Alabama sold Zacapa 10 years ago. I assume it had something to do with Alabama Beverage Control. They're goofy.

That's crazy.
Everyone has a different pallet I guess, but he is wrong lol.
Ironically, it actually went down a few bucks in price here.Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 12/21/2020 12:29:54 PM EDT
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That's crazy.
Everyone has a different pallet I guess, but he is wrong lol.
Ironically, it actually went down a few bucks in price here.https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/65776/Screenshot_20201221-102436_png-1741416.JPG
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XO is definitely worth that price!

Yeah, I like to drink Zaya on occasion, just to change things up, but it's sweeter and has a medicine-like after-taste.
Link Posted: 12/21/2020 12:56:54 PM EDT
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XO is definitely worth that price!

Yeah, I like to drink Zaya on occasion, just to change things up, but it's sweeter and has a medicine-like after-taste.
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That's crazy.
Everyone has a different pallet I guess, but he is wrong lol.
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XO is definitely worth that price!

Yeah, I like to drink Zaya on occasion, just to change things up, but it's sweeter and has a medicine-like after-taste.

I haven't tried the Zaya yet, my guy doesn't carry it. Plantation 20th anniversary is another good one too.
Link Posted: 12/21/2020 8:14:01 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/21/2020 8:29:44 PM EDT
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Try getting a Foursquare Sagacity or one of their dated offerings.
They drink like a bourbon, flavor bombs from around 90 up to 120 proof.
I know several local abc stores around Birmingham that carry them.
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If there's a bottle in Dothan I will buy it tomorrow. I'm gonna need some help getting through the next few days. ??
Link Posted: 12/23/2020 6:08:03 PM EDT
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Try getting a Foursquare Sagacity or one of their dated offerings.
They drink like a bourbon, flavor bombs from around 90 up to 120 proof.
I know several local abc stores around Birmingham that carry them.
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I thought so too, but there's only one store within 50 miles that sells the XO so whatcha gonna do? I just Googled it, and it looks like $125 is the going rate.

A different store in my area is the only store that carries 23 within 50 miles. The owner swears Zaya is better. I remind him all the time that he is wrong.

If I'm not mistaken, no stores in Alabama sold Zacapa 10 years ago. I assume it had something to do with Alabama Beverage Control. They're goofy.

Try getting a Foursquare Sagacity or one of their dated offerings.
They drink like a bourbon, flavor bombs from around 90 up to 120 proof.
I know several local abc stores around Birmingham that carry them.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/135145/20201027_170740-1656815.jpg


I hate you guys.

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Link Posted: 12/23/2020 8:10:18 PM EDT
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Zacapa XO > Foursquare Sagacity.

Actually, Zacapa 23 > Foursquare Sagacity. Fight me, I'm rum drunk.
Link Posted: 12/23/2020 8:31:18 PM EDT
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I thought so too, but there's only one store within 50 miles that sells the XO so whatcha gonna do? I just Googled it, and it looks like $125 is the going rate.

A different store in my area is the only store that carries 23 within 50 miles. The owner swears Zaya is better. I remind him all the time that he is wrong.

If I'm not mistaken, no stores in Alabama sold Zacapa 10 years ago. I assume it had something to do with Alabama Beverage Control. They're goofy.

Try getting a Foursquare Sagacity or one of their dated offerings.
They drink like a bourbon, flavor bombs from around 90 up to 120 proof.
I know several local abc stores around Birmingham that carry them.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/135145/20201027_170740-1656815.jpg


I hate you guys.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/50664/21CC04CC-F101-4B54-B67A-7BB4859D76F3_jpe-1745008.JPG

Lol
I just saw a bottle of that for $49
Link Posted: 12/24/2020 8:42:00 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/24/2020 9:29:57 AM EDT
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Lol
I just saw a bottle of that for $49
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I thought so too, but there's only one store within 50 miles that sells the XO so whatcha gonna do? I just Googled it, and it looks like $125 is the going rate.

A different store in my area is the only store that carries 23 within 50 miles. The owner swears Zaya is better. I remind him all the time that he is wrong.

If I'm not mistaken, no stores in Alabama sold Zacapa 10 years ago. I assume it had something to do with Alabama Beverage Control. They're goofy.

Try getting a Foursquare Sagacity or one of their dated offerings.
They drink like a bourbon, flavor bombs from around 90 up to 120 proof.
I know several local abc stores around Birmingham that carry them.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/135145/20201027_170740-1656815.jpg


I hate you guys.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/50664/21CC04CC-F101-4B54-B67A-7BB4859D76F3_jpe-1745008.JPG

Lol
I just saw a bottle of that for $49


Although I have ne er shopped for Foursquare before, the store I bought this from has fair pricing. They're about 10% higher than retail, which is a necessary markup for private liquor stores in Alabama.

It would be worth $49 to me, even $59, but $98 after tax is too high to me. Zacapa has much more body and a more smooth taste to me.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 1:30:32 PM EDT
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I picked up some of the following yesterday

El Dorado 5 year
Plantation 3 star
Gosslings Black Seal (80 proof)
Lemon Hart 151

I made a hand full of syrups from the smugglers cove book as well

Cinnamon Syrup
Demerara Syrup
Grenadine
Mai Tai Rich Syrup

I made a hand full of drinks too

I got a chance to taste the the rums by myself. First time I have had anything other than Mount Gay 1703 or Various Bacardi products. Wow! What a difference.
Link Posted: 12/27/2020 7:00:22 PM EDT
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I picked up some of the following yesterday

El Dorado 5 year
Plantation 3 star
Gosslings Black Seal (80 proof)
Lemon Hart 151

I made a hand full of syrups from the smugglers cove book as well

Cinnamon Syrup
Demerara Syrup
Grenadine
Mai Tai Rich Syrup

I made a hand full of drinks too

I got a chance to taste the the rums by myself. First time I have had anything other than Mount Gay 1703 or Various Bacardi products. Wow! What a difference.
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Welcome to the addiction.


Link Posted: 12/27/2020 8:38:24 PM EDT
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Picked up some Plantation 5yr Grand Reserve tonight.

Made a jet pilot and mai tai with it

I like it in the jet pilot better than the el dorado 5 yr.

But the el dorado 5yr was better in the mail tai

Both using Smugglers cove recipes
Link Posted: 12/28/2020 12:52:41 AM EDT
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Picked up some Plantation 5yr Grand Reserve tonight.

Made a jet pilot and mai tai with it

I like it in the jet pilot better than the el dorado 5 yr.

But the el dorado 5yr was better in the mail tai

Both using Smugglers cove recipes
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Try a mai tai with cachaca.

Link Posted: 12/28/2020 12:59:41 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/28/2020 9:25:29 AM EDT
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Try a mai tai with cachaca.

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will do!
Link Posted: 12/28/2020 9:31:27 AM EDT
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I have gone though a few bottles of Leblon Cachasa for caipirinhas

Is Novo Fogo worth the extra money?

Leblon is typically $17.99/750ml around here, Novo Fogo is about $30
Link Posted: 12/28/2020 2:51:06 PM EDT
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Novo Fogo is my first and only cachaca so I can't compare it to any others. I can say I'm really digging it though.
Link Posted: 12/29/2020 11:34:55 PM EDT
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Between you guys and Smugglers Cove book

My eyes have been awaked to a whole new world....of Rum
Link Posted: 12/30/2020 12:26:27 AM EDT
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Between you guys and Smugglers Cove book

My eyes have been awaked to a whole new world....of Rum
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This smugglers cove book... is it filled with different rum cocktail recipes
Link Posted: 12/30/2020 2:31:16 PM EDT
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This smugglers cove book... is it filled with different rum cocktail recipes
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Yes, but it's specifically about Tiki drinks. So aside from a few classic cocktails all the recipes are like 6 plus ingredients and you better be ready to make/buy a bunch of different liqueurs, syrups, and bitters.
Link Posted: 12/30/2020 2:31:28 PM EDT
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Double tap
Link Posted: 12/30/2020 2:44:49 PM EDT
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majority are rum based

as ohiobr said, its a tiki book. most drinks are 6+ ingredients.

how ever one of my go to drinks is a Corn and Oil, 1/2oz of John D. Tayler's Velvet Felarnum, 2oz of Rum (I have been using El Dorado 5yr), and 2 dashes of Angostura bitters on ice and stir

Jet Pilot is 2 different fruit juices, 3 different rums, falernum, cinnamon syrup, and herbstura bitters. It's one of my favorite tiki drinks so far.

I have tried a few Mai Tais and the recipe in the book is my favorite so far.
Link Posted: 12/30/2020 6:33:49 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/30/2020 11:16:40 PM EDT
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Once you develop a taste for neat, making drinks gets much easier.....



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Lol, so true
Link Posted: 1/1/2021 3:16:49 PM EDT
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Finished my Plantation Barbados last night. Would buy again. But probably not the Jamaica offering. Has a weird funk.
Link Posted: 1/1/2021 3:43:00 PM EDT
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Ringing in the new year with Bumbu. Sweeter than what I normally drink, but the hint of banana is nice.

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Ringing in the new year with Bumbu. Sweeter than what I normally drink, but the hint of banana is nice.

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Near table and awesome sticks!
Link Posted: 1/1/2021 4:30:20 PM EDT
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I’m too frugal to shell out big bucks for something u just rent for a while .

However my gf did pick up a bottle of Captain White rum that was perfectly acceptable  .
Link Posted: 1/1/2021 5:14:04 PM EDT
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Thanks! My other hobby is fossil and artifact hunting. That dark object underneath the rum is a basilosaurus vertebrae.

82a1 with Vortex HD II on right, Frankenstein competition AR on left, CZ Scorpion SBR in middle
Link Posted: 1/1/2021 7:38:35 PM EDT
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Thanks! My other hobby is fossil and artifact hunting. That dark object underneath the rum is a basilosaurus vertebrae.

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Very cool!

Good taste!
Link Posted: 1/3/2021 3:22:28 PM EDT
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Finished my Plantation Barbados last night. Would buy again. But probably not the Jamaica offering. Has a weird funk.
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The funk is the best part of Jamaican rums.
Link Posted: 1/17/2021 10:28:10 PM EDT
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Anyone tried the foursquare detente? I'm deciding between that and the sagacity. The detente was only a few dollars more. My local store has both of those and they also have the 2008 and 2007. Too many choices.
Link Posted: 1/18/2021 12:41:00 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/18/2021 12:54:07 AM EDT
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I like the Koloa rum, made on Kauai. Their dark rum is a good sipping rum.

My personal preference is Koloa at room temp or Plantation dark on a little ice.
Link Posted: 2/21/2021 2:21:54 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/4/2021 3:59:27 PM EDT
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I like the Koloa rum, made on Kauai. Their dark rum is a good sipping rum. https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0363/8621/products/fullsizeoutput_5db4_large.jpeg?v=1571274559

My personal preference is Koloa at room temp or Plantation dark on a little ice.
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Wow, that is dark.  Looks delicious.  Just when I thought I spent too much money on bourbon, looks like I might need to add some more rums to the mix.
Link Posted: 4/1/2021 7:24:51 PM EDT
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I go through a bottle of Zacapa 23 every week but my store was out today so I bought this:

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It’s an excellent substitute.
Link Posted: 4/1/2021 7:38:36 PM EDT
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Tagged. I really enjoy Pilar
Link Posted: 4/3/2021 9:40:39 PM EDT
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This thread inspired me to grab a bottle yesterday. Anyone had this?

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Link Posted: 4/4/2021 2:48:18 AM EDT
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This thread inspired me to grab a bottle yesterday. Anyone had this?

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Interesting.  I don't think I've ever come across this (but I really hadn't been looking)  Break that bad boy open and give us your opinion.
Link Posted: 4/4/2021 8:32:29 AM EDT
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It was sitting on a shelf off to the side, only 1 bottle was available.

After getting home and looking up reviews, it appeared to be a mixed bag. Done people's loved it, others not so much.

I enjoyed it. Lots of raisin upfront, nutty at the finish. I'm not a huge rum guy but am trying to branch out from bourbon. Not a bad sipper in my opinion.
Link Posted: 5/12/2021 2:40:22 AM EDT
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Bump to keep this from the archives
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Link Posted: 5/12/2021 1:35:16 PM EDT
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$49 is a a really good price.

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I just saw a bottle of that for $49

$49 is a a really good price.

The cheapest I've seen any Foursquare in my area is ~$85.  I've still not splurged for any.  Getting lots of enjoyment out of $25-40 bottles of aged rum.  
Link Posted: 5/12/2021 6:43:49 PM EDT
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Papa’s Pilar Dark for the win. Absolutely delicious!
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