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Posted: 5/24/2023 4:16:54 PM EST
Anyone ever use the Montana route to get a RZR (is what I have) or equivalent tagged as street legal?
They way I understand it is this company helps create you a LLC in Montana. The SxS belongs to that LLC there and not you, so states with reciprocity recognize it as it's classified there as a "quadracycle". The one thing that confused me is the LLC part. They say it's $900 up front then $100 a year to maintain. But if I have an LLC and it shows a loss for 3 consecutive years won't I be in some kind of tax troubles? Just asking to see if any of you guys ever heard of this. Thanks. |
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Posted: 5/24/2023 4:44:59 PM EST
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Just ask your politicians why seat belts aren't mandatory on motorcycles.
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Posted: 5/24/2023 6:31:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ACEB36TC: Just ask your politicians why seat belts aren't mandatory on motorcycles. |
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Posted: 5/25/2023 9:02:36 AM EST
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I think here we just have to get our utv’s setup street legal with blinkers horn etc then get them tagged. I would go to the dmv.
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Posted: 5/25/2023 11:11:27 AM EST
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I’ve heard of it but don’t know how it plays out. Here for instance the cops aren’t goi by to let you drive them on the street because they don’t meet our standards. I think it comes down to each state city and county unfortunately.
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AL, USA
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Posted: 5/25/2023 11:14:03 AM EST
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Street legal sxs?
You mean the Suzuki Samurai? |
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Posted: 5/26/2023 10:18:19 PM EST
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I'm curious how that would work in MN, not that my Pioneer 700 can go over 40 anyway
 .In MN, the only law on the books is no riding on the shoulder or right of way of a state highway (maybe federal, I'd have to check again), unless it is part of a designated trail system. Other than that, it is legal to ride them up on the road provided the local gov't hasn't banned such an activity (each county, city, township, etc., can ban it if they choose). Some counties specifically allow it per a law so that cities within the county cannot individually ban it (how I understand it). They claim it is for environmental protection, can't hurt the grass and cause erosion! Some folks around here take theirs to the Wal Mart for grocery shopping
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Posted: 5/28/2023 5:47:12 AM EST
[Last Edit: Aimless]
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There was a discussion about this last year and a link from a lawyer who has a YouTube channel. Generally I think the lawyer is pretty sharp. This was in the context of registering vehicles like military vehicles or grey market cars in anything goes states through a corporation then having the vehicle in a no fun state with normal rules.
This lawyer's beef was the vehicle will presumably be insured at the anything goes state corporation address (my guess is this is a PO Box, UPS store or some other shady address) but obviously you're really going to have your tank, not US legal race car or two stroke dirt bike at your house in no fun state. If you have a claim when the vehicle is involved in an accident or destroyed by fire or other calamity the insurance company is going to say something like "the policy was for a vehicle stored at the address you gave us in anything goes state, obviously you always had it 1500 miles away in no fun state so we aren't paying. Not legal advice!! |
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Posted: 5/28/2023 5:57:11 AM EST
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In Utah I think you can basically put anything on the road if you put on blinkers and some other stuff ie a horn? SxS and atvs are supposedly limited to surface streets nor highways, but you see them on some sections of highway moving between off road areas.
I was tempted to put a two stroke dirt bike on the street but two many years behind a desk makes me think I'm in over my head with that. There are attempts by some of the cities fo carve out exceptions but I don't think they've been successful. At least in southern Utah people drive RZRs around town same as cars and motorcycles. In NY sometimes you could ride a atv into town if you lived way out in the sticks, particularly in a blizzard; but even with Utah plates you'd never get away with just driving it around like a car. It's be interesting to see if you could get away with something like a big two stroke motorcycle out of state on the road. I'm sure if you rode it back and forth to work you'd be caught |
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Posted: 5/28/2023 9:14:29 AM EST
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Found it
 The Montana License Plate Scam - Lehto's Law Ep. 5.16 |
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Posted: 5/28/2023 9:30:07 AM EST
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The first half is about dodging taxes but skip to about ten minutes so hear about the insurance issues.
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Posted: 5/28/2023 9:56:12 AM EST
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I see them in KY with tags on the road.
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Posted: 5/28/2023 11:56:06 AM EST
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Isn't this what Jeeps are? Just get an ancient Jeep, fix it up, boom, street legal side by side, you can add a .50 BMG mount.
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Posted: 5/28/2023 12:30:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Isn't this what Jeeps are? Just get an ancient Jeep, fix it up, boom, street legal side by side, you can add a .50 BMG mount. A SxS is a ready made high hp buggy with great suspension, all right from the factory, plus modern efficiency, safety, convenience. Even the more tame class 2 models like my pioneer are very capable, comfortable and safe, and very light. Plus, you can't take a jeep into an atv trail. |
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Posted: 5/28/2023 3:22:45 PM EST
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Doesn't matter what state it's plated in if the vehicle is not road legal in the state you are operating it in. Additionally most states require vehicles that are domiciled in state to have in state registration. It's unfortunate as I would buy a SxS tomorrow if I could use it to run around my rural area.
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Posted: 5/29/2023 11:54:15 PM EST
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As above, the road legality is by state. Johnsburg in northern IL allows SXS on the road but literally every town/city around it (and the vast majority on NIL) does not so you’re stuck to one town. Up here in Wisco, as long as the SXS is registered with the DNR and the county allows it, you can drive on the road without any extra endorsements, if you will. Just your registration stickers and a rear 4x7 plate with your reg numbers.
The Montana thing I think is more for dodging state emissions with your car. I’ve heard a buddy of mine do that before. |
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Posted: 5/30/2023 8:52:04 PM EST
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In Washington we need a Front Windshield, mirrors, horn , turn signals and an inspection from an authorized dealer . Then off to the DMV with the inspection paperwork and title . They destroy the off road title and issue a new one . Pretty easy .
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Posted: 6/21/2023 10:00:50 PM EST
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Its a catch 22 as Montana changes your SxS to a Quadracycle. Legally you cannot use it on ATV trails because it is no longer a off road machine.
Most of northern WI is open to road use with just a registration but you cannot go on state hwy. I talked with local sherrif and state patrol and both said they dont care if it has montana plates. It is a SxS and they will fine and or impound. Lots of people in the Street legal FB group are spending a lot of money to get the plates and have to fight in court because of laws. I would not do it myself. If I want to drive my SxS down the HWY that bad I will take my jeep. |
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Posted: 6/21/2023 10:53:37 PM EST
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I have heard of peeps doing odd things like that with motorhomes to avoid smog checks, smog equipment, and also to get insurance. A friend is going through this now as his insurance carrier just stopped coverage in his state.
In my case, I added mirrors, horn, turn signals to make this street legal. I already had the on and off road tag, and I doubt anyone will ever check my equipment. In this shot I had just added the roof and windshield for comfort, not for legalities.  |
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Posted: 6/27/2023 2:10:14 PM EST
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My town the roads are shared use for a good chunk of them, but alot of them are No OHRV.
Our local PD will ticket an OHRV rocking a MT plate on a non-ohrv road. |
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Posted: 11/22/2023 8:29:51 AM EST
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Following up. I ended up just going with a C1 plate from TN. Lets me drive on county roads. Installed turn signals, horn and such so should be gtg.
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Posted: 11/23/2023 8:39:18 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sparkyD: I think here we just have to get our utv’s setup street legal with blinkers horn etc then get them tagged. I would go to the dmv. This |
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Posted: 11/23/2023 8:47:02 AM EST
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For the $$$ put into them to ride primarily on road, I'd rather take the $35K or more and buy an actual road vehicle, either 4x4 or SUV.
I've talked to a couple that have done it, the repair/maintenance costs are asinine per mile driven. Even my old boss admitted it was probably the most expensive to keep on the road vehicle he has ever owned. He's on his third engine, the first one was under the extended warranty plan he had bought. He does almost all the work on it but ''shits not cheap yo.'' |
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Posted: 11/24/2023 12:08:34 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fxntime: For the $$$ put into them to ride primarily on road, I'd rather take the $35K or more and buy an actual road vehicle, either 4x4 or SUV. I've talked to a couple that have done it, the repair/maintenance costs are asinine per mile driven. Even my old boss admitted it was probably the most expensive to keep on the road vehicle he has ever owned. He's on his third engine, the first one was under the extended warranty plan he had bought. He does almost all the work on it but ''shits not cheap yo.'' I guess it just depends on what you want to end up with. Performance wise nothing that is street legal is anywhere close to a performance SxS so it's just a trade off. |
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Posted: Yesterday 6:01:56 PM EST
[Last Edit: Prae]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: I guess it just depends on what you want to end up with. Performance wise nothing that is street legal is anywhere close to a performance SxS so it's just a trade off. |
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