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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:21:58 PM EDT
 Failed To Load Title News article A girl at work has been in quarantine because her parents tested positive. Shes been negative for 2 weeks (2 tests), and tested positive on the 15th day. Elon Musk produced 2 negative and 2 positive tests on the same day. The testing is 100% worthless. edit: this is a rapid test, not a PCR test. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:29:31 PM EDT
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Agreed and in before all the pro vaxers make fun of you.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:31:10 PM EDT
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Snake oil sells - stealing money is big business.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:31:48 PM EDT
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They should have wore two masks!
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:33:49 PM EDT
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Are these the tests that "grow" the sample through millions or billions of replication cycles until there's enough for a positive hit?
It's like taking a swap from your arm, picking up one single spore of MRSA then letting it grow in a petr-dish until there's enough for a massive deadly infection. 
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:33:59 PM EDT
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Testing accuracy will improve significantly after the pedo joe admin rolls into town.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:35:33 PM EDT
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We have a mechanic who works for us who tested positive via PCR testing for 10 or 12 weeks... asymptomatic the entire time, no fever not even a sniffle.
He finally had to get his doctor and a specialist involved before HR would allow him to come back to work. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:35:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Testing accuracy will improve significantly after the pedo joe admin rolls into town. After the 60 day national lockdown the virus will magically just go away. Joe is savior of humanity from Trump virus, all heil chairman Xiden. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:35:40 PM EDT
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I get tested 3 times a week at work. Still no positives....yet
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:43:53 PM EDT
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when you can test positive in one nostril and negative in the other...those test are probably not entirely accurate?
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:45:11 PM EDT
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In the old days politicians just kissed babies...now they sniff 'em too?
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:45:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I get tested 3 times a week at work. Still no positives....yet Probably rapids though, right? Different test. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:46:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Probably rapids though, right? Different test. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I get tested 3 times a week at work. Still no positives....yet Probably rapids though, right? Different test. Rapid tests Mondays and Fridays, PCR Wednesdays. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:47:57 PM EDT
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Ever wonder why asymptomatic people don’t spread the virus?...
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:51:15 PM EDT
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So Kiwis cause China virus?
Got it. Don't really like them much anyway.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:51:16 PM EDT
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1 positive out of 3 tests is about right.
Doesn't make it it a sham. If you feel fine and are just getting tested for funsies than its a waste. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:53:09 PM EDT
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This is just like when the Kiwis stole the America's Cup.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:55:45 PM EDT
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Be right back, gotta go throw out my kiwis I just got.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:56:09 PM EDT
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First of all that is a "rapid test" not a PCR test. Major difference.
Second that is NOT I REPEAT NOT a sterile environment. See the two figures without masks behind the person doing the "test?" Any experiment conducted under such circumstance is retarded as the area WOULD be contaminated. But carry on with your ignorance. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:58:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I get tested 3 times a week at work. Still no positives....yet Right, they don't want to be short staffed. Everyone tests negative except the ones they want gone. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:59:16 PM EDT
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I get all my facts from Youtube
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:00:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: First of all that is a "rapid test" not a PCR test. Major difference. Second that is NOT I REPEAT NOT a sterile environment. See the two figures without masks behind the person doing the "test?" Any experiment conducted under such circumstance is retarded as the area WOULD be contaminated. But carry on with your ignorance. Oh yeah, well, "global warming!" Why do you hate God? |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:00:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Right, they don't want to be short staffed. Everyone tests negative except the ones they want gone. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I get tested 3 times a week at work. Still no positives....yet Right, they don't want to be short staffed. Everyone tests negative except the ones they want gone. Well, if I do test positive I get a two-week paid vacation. So maybe I’ll get lucky one of these days. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:00:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: First of all that is a "rapid test" not a PCR test. Major difference. Second that is NOT I REPEAT NOT a sterile environment. See the two figures without masks behind the person doing the "test?" Any experiment conducted under such circumstance is retarded as the area WOULD be contaminated. But carry on with your ignorance. Swabbing people through the window of their automobile was a sterile environment correct? |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:02:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I get tested 3 times a week at work. Still no positives....yet @proto3 What you do? |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:02:21 PM EDT
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... will all magically disappear Wednesday
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:02:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @proto3 What you do? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I get tested 3 times a week at work. Still no positives....yet @proto3 What you do? I work on tv shows and movies |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:06:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 1 positive out of 3 tests is about right. Doesn't make it it a sham. If you feel fine and are just getting tested for funsies than its a waste. Also increased false positive |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:06:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I work on tv shows and movies Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I get tested 3 times a week at work. Still no positives....yet @proto3 What you do? I work on tv shows and movies Figured as such I’m an ER physician and never tested |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:08:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: First of all that is a "rapid test" not a PCR test. Major difference. Second that is NOT I REPEAT NOT a sterile environment. See the two figures without masks behind the person doing the "test?" Any experiment conducted under such circumstance is retarded as the area WOULD be contaminated. But carry on with your ignorance. What an amazingly sensitive test that it's able to pick up the virus from people several feet away in the few seconds it's in the open air. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:09:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Figured as such I’m an ER physician and never tested Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I get tested 3 times a week at work. Still no positives....yet @proto3 What you do? I work on tv shows and movies Figured as such I’m an ER physician and never tested My mom is a nurse and said they’ll only test them if they have symptoms. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:11:33 PM EDT
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Why bother anymore? Seriously. There's no more debating in todays world of deceit. People lining up for Covid vaccines might as well just join BLM, support Biden and sell their guns while they're at it because it's all tied together.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:14:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why bother anymore? Seriously. There's no more debating in todays world of deceit. People lining up for Covid vaccines might as well just join BLM, support Biden and sell their guns while they're at it because it's all tied together. https://i.imgur.com/9HDdBwl.jpg" target="_blank">https://i.imgur.com/9HDdBwl.jpg It's impossible to "debate" when people have created an artificial reality around them. In the real world, the problem with false positives on this type of test is well documented. No obscure "news" site needed. https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/letters-health-care-providers/potential-false-positive-results-antigen-tests-rapid-detection-sars-cov-2-letter-clinical-laboratory |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:16:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why bother anymore? Seriously. There's no more debating in todays world of deceit. People lining up for Covid vaccines might as well just join BLM, support Biden and sell their guns while they're at it because it's all tied together. https://i.imgur.com/9HDdBwl.jpg" target="_blank">https://i.imgur.com/9HDdBwl.jpg The only particularly interesting piece is how the numbers shake out. The rate if real incidence is lower than reported, which would make actual fatality rate higher. Except the cause of death due to covid is also lower than reported. End result is we havr no idea because it's all bullshit. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:16:37 PM EDT
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Yup, wife had 2 pos and 1 neg in the same day.
She is neg. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:19:37 PM EDT
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The grabbed tests from the positive box
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:19:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The only particularly interesting piece is how the numbers shake out. The rate if real incidence is lower than reported, which would make actual fatality rate higher. Except the cause of death due to covid is also lower than reported. End result is we havr no idea because it's all bullshit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why bother anymore? Seriously. There's no more debating in todays world of deceit. People lining up for Covid vaccines might as well just join BLM, support Biden and sell their guns while they're at it because it's all tied together. https://i.imgur.com/9HDdBwl.jpg" target="_blank">https://i.imgur.com/9HDdBwl.jpg The only particularly interesting piece is how the numbers shake out. The rate if real incidence is lower than reported, which would make actual fatality rate higher. Except the cause of death due to covid is also lower than reported. End result is we havr no idea because it's all bullshit. These are teats fielded in a hurry under emergency conditions with emergency use authorizations and waiver after waiver for how things normally work. Perfect is the enemy of good enough. For some reason, people love to deliberately manipulate the facts to spin their wild conspiracies. The comment section from the linked video in the OP says a lot. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:20:29 PM EDT
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Could a pcr test pick up a different coronavirus? Like a common cold?
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:23:15 PM EDT
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I thought everybody knew that?
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:23:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: These are teats fielded in a hurry under emergency conditions with emergency use authorizations and waiver after waiver for how things normally work. Perfect is the enemy of good enough. For some reason, people love to deliberately manipulate the facts to spin their wild conspiracies. The comment section from the linked video in the OP says a lot. What is the false positive and false negative rate that we call these "good enough"? |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:27:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Could a pcr test pick up a different coronavirus? Like a common cold? That's not a PCR test. It appears to be an antigen test. There is a deliberate campaign in the derposphere to confuse, conflate, and disorient the public. Not hard to do when so much of the public actively seeks out misinformation and deception. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:29:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is the false positive and false negative rate that we call these "good enough"? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: These are teats fielded in a hurry under emergency conditions with emergency use authorizations and waiver after waiver for how things normally work. Perfect is the enemy of good enough. For some reason, people love to deliberately manipulate the facts to spin their wild conspiracies. The comment section from the linked video in the OP says a lot. What is the false positive and false negative rate that we call these "good enough"? It varies. That's part of the problem with those tests. It's not like they underwent clinical testing for years before fielding and were accompanied with well-established answers to your question. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:32:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: First of all that is a "rapid test" not a PCR test. Major difference. Second that is NOT I REPEAT NOT a sterile environment. See the two figures without masks behind the person doing the "test?" Any experiment conducted under such circumstance is retarded as the area WOULD be contaminated. But carry on with your ignorance. Honest mistake, I thought it was the PCR test. Edited OP. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:34:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's impossible to "debate" when people have created an artificial reality around them. In the real world, the problem with false positives on this type of test is well documented. No obscure "news" site needed. https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/letters-health-care-providers/potential-false-positive-results-antigen-tests-rapid-detection-sars-cov-2-letter-clinical-laboratory Yesterday I was accused of being mean to anti-vaxxers and being a pro-pharma shill. I just think its interesting that a fucking Kiwi tested positive. All sorts of shit out there about goats, icecream, etc also testing positive. It takes all kinds, I guess. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:35:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It varies. That's part of the problem with those tests. It's not like they underwent clinical testing for years before fielding and were accompanied with well-established answers to your question. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: These are teats fielded in a hurry under emergency conditions with emergency use authorizations and waiver after waiver for how things normally work. Perfect is the enemy of good enough. For some reason, people love to deliberately manipulate the facts to spin their wild conspiracies. The comment section from the linked video in the OP says a lot. What is the false positive and false negative rate that we call these "good enough"? It varies. That's part of the problem with those tests. It's not like they underwent clinical testing for years before fielding and were accompanied with well-established answers to your question. It varies between what numbers? |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:36:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yesterday I was accused of being mean to anti-vaxxers and being a pro-pharma shill. I just think its interesting that a fucking Kiwi tested positive. All sorts of shit out there about goats, icecream, etc also testing positive. It takes all kinds, I guess. It must be the same companies that make field drug tests who got into the COVID game. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:37:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's impossible to "debate" when people have created an artificial reality around them. In the real world, the problem with false positives on this type of test is well documented. No obscure "news" site needed. https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/letters-health-care-providers/potential-false-positive-results-antigen-tests-rapid-detection-sars-cov-2-letter-clinical-laboratory People can post data, graphs, charts or articles from 20 different sources, I don't fucking care. Well documented means a pile of steaming shit. By who? How? When? No way to determine what the fuck well documented means anymore. You really have no fucking idea. Most just use the data that supports their beliefs system. Real world. Haha. What does that mean in 2021? |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:38:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It varies between what numbers? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: These are teats fielded in a hurry under emergency conditions with emergency use authorizations and waiver after waiver for how things normally work. Perfect is the enemy of good enough. For some reason, people love to deliberately manipulate the facts to spin their wild conspiracies. The comment section from the linked video in the OP says a lot. What is the false positive and false negative rate that we call these "good enough"? It varies. That's part of the problem with those tests. It's not like they underwent clinical testing for years before fielding and were accompanied with well-established answers to your question. It varies between what numbers? I doubt anyone knows at this time. The info comes in from the field, not a controlled testing environment. There are 13 antigen tests in use under emergency authorizations in the US alone. That video wasn't even in the US. Each test likely might have different data, if there were ever clinical testing done. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:39:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: These are teats fielded in a hurry under emergency conditions with emergency use authorizations and waiver after waiver for how things normally work. Perfect is the enemy of good enough. For some reason, people love to deliberately manipulate the facts to spin their wild conspiracies. The comment section from the linked video in the OP says a lot. The tests were made in a hurry and are "good enough." The vaccine was made in a hurry and is "good enough." What a crock of shit this whole thing is. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:40:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I doubt anyone knows at this time. The info comes in from the field, not a controlled testing environment. There are 13 antigen tests in use under emergency authorizations in the US alone. That video wasn't even in the US. Each test likely might have different data, if there were ever clinical testing done. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: These are teats fielded in a hurry under emergency conditions with emergency use authorizations and waiver after waiver for how things normally work. Perfect is the enemy of good enough. For some reason, people love to deliberately manipulate the facts to spin their wild conspiracies. The comment section from the linked video in the OP says a lot. What is the false positive and false negative rate that we call these "good enough"? It varies. That's part of the problem with those tests. It's not like they underwent clinical testing for years before fielding and were accompanied with well-established answers to your question. It varies between what numbers? I doubt anyone knows at this time. The info comes in from the field, not a controlled testing environment. There are 13 antigen tests in use under emergency authorizations in the US alone. That video wasn't even in the US. Each test likely might have different data, if there were ever clinical testing done. So we don't know its actually effectiveness, but you know that it's "good enough". 
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:42:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: People can post data, graphs, charts or articles from 20 different sources, I don't fucking care. Well documented means a pile of steaming shit. By who? How? When? No way to determine what the fuck well documented means anymore. You really have no fucking idea. Most just use the data that supports their beliefs system. Real world. Haha. What does that mean in 2021? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's impossible to "debate" when people have created an artificial reality around them. In the real world, the problem with false positives on this type of test is well documented. No obscure "news" site needed. https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/letters-health-care-providers/potential-false-positive-results-antigen-tests-rapid-detection-sars-cov-2-letter-clinical-laboratory People can post data, graphs, charts or articles from 20 different sources, I don't fucking care. Well documented means a pile of steaming shit. By who? How? When? No way to determine what the fuck well documented means anymore. You really have no fucking idea. Most just use the data that supports their beliefs system. Real world. Haha. What does that mean in 2021? It means that anyone paying attention would have known the issues with those antigen tests have been known for some time, and for anyone screaming about this being some secret, that FDA letter I linked from last week effectively captures the gist of the issue and the latest guidance to the field. Go ahead and seek out your information from "news" sites like "thisquality.com." I don't care, and I know I couldn't stop you if I did. |
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