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Posted: 2/26/2021 9:42:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/26/2021 9:44:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pics not loading What pics? I don't have the gun yet. I got my online order placed and confirmed. |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 9:48:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What pics? I don't have the gun yet. I got my online order placed and confirmed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Pics not loading What pics? I don't have the gun yet. I got my online order placed and confirmed. There ya go. And I didn't even buy one.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 9:53:47 PM EDT
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This old guy was an armorer for smith and wesson and he hand built the original model 19's in the 1970's. He says the claim that they dont build them like they used to is nonsense. The new classic model that just came out a few years ago is better built and tougher in every single way you can list according to him. And this video helped me make up my mind on whether I wanted an actual old classic model or the new "classic" model.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h9l2ipiKf4 |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 9:58:47 PM EDT
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But is has a lock though
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Posted: 2/26/2021 10:00:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But is has a lock though Yes. I'm not thrilled about that and I see no reason for it. But the issues and horror stories of them locking up on their own have not happened in many years. I think s&w have recognized and fixed that problem because it hasn't been an issue for quite a while. At about 15 minutes and 30 seconds into the video is when he goes into detail on how and why the new one is more durable and reliable than the old one. |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 10:06:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But is has a lock though And MIM parts. |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 10:09:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This old guy was an armorer for smith and wesson and he hand built the original model 19's in the 1970's. He says the claim that they dont build them like they used to is nonsense. The new classic model that just came out a few years ago is better built and tougher in every single way you can list according to him. And this video helped me make up my mind on whether I wanted an actual old classic model or the new "classic" model. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h9l2ipiKf4 How much did they have to pay him to say that? |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 10:12:44 PM EDT
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I didn't watch the video before I posted but I have now. I think most of the allure of older smiths can be understood by watching that video you posted. Those pistols were more so built by hand. The hours of hand tuning them to make them what they were/are is why the are some of the most coveted pistols.
Sure, today's tech makes this much more easy but that sort of takes away from the overall "quality" of the firearm. I would rather have a hand tuned older smith that was just a bunch of junky parts that wouldn't work (pulled from that video) until a master at his craft made them all work together than most of today's firearms. |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 10:13:38 PM EDT
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The model 19 came out in 1957.
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Posted: 2/26/2021 10:16:38 PM EDT
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Nice score but damn revolver prices are stupid high these days
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Posted: 2/26/2021 10:18:31 PM EDT
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Bought an SP101 for MSRP the other day and didn’t think anything of it. Wanted a .357 for a woods gun sidearm, it was available and so I bought it.
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Posted: 2/26/2021 10:18:57 PM EDT
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I don't mind the locked and mimmed guns anymore.
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Posted: 2/26/2021 10:20:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice score but damn revolver prices are stupid high these days Yes. I agree. And I have no idea why I wanted this thing so bad.. I'm not gonna conceal carry it. It's not optimal for home defense. I have no other explanation other than I really want it. I have a no mim/no dash 686 that was made in the early 80's. It's an awesome gun thats very accurate and fun to shoot. |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 10:22:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This old guy was an armorer for smith and wesson and he hand built the original model 19's in the 1970's. He says the claim that they dont build them like they used to is nonsense. The new classic model that just came out a few years ago is better built and tougher in every single way you can list according to him. And this video helped me make up my mind on whether I wanted an actual old classic model or the new "classic" model. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h9l2ipiKf4 I’ve seen reviews that say the new ones are very good.... however there’s still that fucking hole above the cylinder release. |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 10:24:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've seen reviews that say the new ones are very good.... however there's still that fucking hole above the cylinder release. https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/2426997_A-Cure-for-that-Hideous-Blemish-on-Your-Smith-and-Wesson.html |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 10:31:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI ‘seen’ that. I recently got a 610 with the hole...thinking about getting one. |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 10:34:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How much did they have to pay him to say that? I have no idea, but he goes into great details with his reasons and gets very specific. |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 10:36:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve seen reviews that say the new ones are very good.... however there’s still that fucking hole above the cylinder release. Yes and the old ones recommended only using .357 magnum on occasion. The new one says its ok to give it a steady diet of the hottest .357 magnum loads you can get. |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 10:40:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes and the old ones recommended only using .357 magnum on occasion. The new one says its ok to give it a steady diet of the hottest .357 magnum loads you can get. |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 10:54:58 PM EDT
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@DaddyShark, the Wheel Guns are flying off the shelves because they're reliable and capable. A .357 K-Frsme is still a fine house gun and even a CCW piece. Also, people think they won't be initially targeted and they're more than likely to weather a Biden Ban. So, folks are snatching them up as an insurance against any future gun bans. Lastly, the novices find the simplicity of not having to buy magazines a good thing on their wallets. Personally for me, for that money, I can buy original S&W Model 19s.
Anways.... right now, just about anything self defense related is in hot demand. Revolvers, Pump Shotguns, Lever Actions, Semiautomatic Pistols & Long Guns, etc.... |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 11:04:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @DaddyShark, the Wheel Guns are flying off the shelves because they're reliable and capable. A .357 K-Frsme is still a fine house gun and even a CCW piece. Also, people think they won't be initially targeted and they're more than likely to weather a Biden Ban. So, folks are snatching them up as an insurance against any future gun bans. Lastly, the novices find the simplicity of not having to buy magazines a good thing on their wallets. Personally for me, for that money, I can buy original S&W Model 19s. Anways.... right now, just about anything self defense related is in hot demand. Revolvers, Pump Shotguns, Lever Actions, Semiautomatic Pistols & Long Guns, etc.... I watched a salesman at Cabelas pushing P210 on a very obvious first time gun buyer because they had nothing else in stock a few months ago. |
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Posted: 2/26/2021 11:10:28 PM EDT
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I'll still rate my 19-3's over the new ones. Glad you are happy though OP.
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Posted: 2/26/2021 11:13:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @DaddyShark, the Wheel Guns are flying off the shelves because they're reliable and capable. A .357 K-Frsme is still a fine house gun and even a CCW piece. Also, people think they won't be initially targeted and they're more than likely to weather a Biden Ban. So, folks are snatching them up as an insurance against any future gun bans. Lastly, the novices find the simplicity of not having to buy magazines a good thing on their wallets. Personally for me, for that money, I can buy original S&W Model 19s. Anways.... right now, just about anything self defense related is in hot demand. Revolvers, Pump Shotguns, Lever Actions, Semiautomatic Pistols & Long Guns, etc.... That thinking is kind of dumb about surviving a ban. I hope they don't do it, but a new assault weapons ban is certainly possible with biden (auto correct capitalized his name, and I changed that), but anyways I don't see confiscation happening. They know there's way too many people, probably in the millions that would go down fighting if the gov knocked on their door and asked for what they already have. That's not really an option realistically with this country. But the sale of any new ones, parts, and the sale and transfer of mags with a capacity beyond 10 being banned is a real possibility. Which is crazy because I can still get 30 round pmags at a reasonable price.. I have plenty of 30 rounders but they stay at home most of the time and do nothing. Because I actually prefer my 20 rounders when I'm shooting on the range. Works out perfectly. It's easier to shoot sitting at a bench since its close to level with the rest of the rifle and one 20 round mag= one 20 round box of ammo. No half boxes and loose rounds all over the place when I do it that way. |
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Posted: 2/27/2021 12:15:59 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/27/2021 2:58:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. I agree. And I have no idea why I wanted this thing so bad.. I'm not gonna conceal carry it. It's not optimal for home defense. I have no other explanation other than I really want it. I have a no mim/no dash 686 that was made in the early 80's. It's an awesome gun thats very accurate and fun to shoot. You wanted it because it's a gorgeous piece and harkens back to a day when a man's weapons were of steel and wood.  And why in God's good name is a .357 Maggaggie not good for home defense??? 
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Posted: 2/27/2021 3:11:28 AM EDT
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Now go find some ammo for it.
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Posted: 2/27/2021 3:13:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And MIM parts. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: But is has a lock though And MIM parts. |
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Posted: 2/27/2021 3:38:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll still rate my 19-3's over the new ones. Glad you are happy though OP. https://i.imgur.com/wrufNNh.jpg yep - I will keep gramps 19-3... handle it a lot, shoot it a little.  the Colt trooper gets fed the most out of all- w/ lower power 38 wadcutters... 
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Posted: 2/27/2021 3:40:55 AM EDT
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A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush.
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Posted: 2/27/2021 3:52:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll still rate my 19-3's over the new ones. Glad you are happy though OP. https://i.imgur.com/wrufNNh.jpg Pretty much everyone is going to rate the older anything as being superior to the newer anything, aren't they? Especially when it comes to steel? Gorgeous guns, btw! |
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Posted: 2/27/2021 4:26:41 AM EDT
[#32]
You wanted the gun, you found one, and it wasn't priced over MSRP. If you feel good about it, that's all that matters. It doesn't matter what anyone else says.
Enjoy your new wheel-gun and post pics when you pick it up! |
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Posted: 2/27/2021 4:29:35 AM EDT
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Sold my 19-3 for $500. Still regret it!
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Posted: 2/27/2021 4:32:26 AM EDT
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Tag
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Posted: 2/27/2021 4:33:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryBrilliant! If I had any post-lock S&Ws, every one would have that on it. |
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Posted: 2/27/2021 5:54:14 AM EDT
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The lock is dumb and needs to go. I think we can all agree on that.
That said, I watched the whole video. It was interesting to hear what he had to say. He went into a lot of detail about the changes that have been made and seems to think the new guns are greatly improved over the old ones. |
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Posted: 2/27/2021 6:06:38 AM EDT
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Here's a pic of my 2.5" Model 19-2, P&R, bought back in '84 or '85. Cant find a pic of my 4" Model 19 at the moment.
Not going to say what I paid for it, back then, cause I don't want to ruin the OP's day. 
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Posted: 2/27/2021 6:09:54 AM EDT
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I have several Colt and SW revolvers from 50 to 75 years ago. When I find someone who has only ever owned a Glock, I hand them a revolver and have them try it on single action. The expression on their face is priceless.
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Posted: 2/27/2021 6:09:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And MIM parts. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: But is has a lock though And MIM parts.  I thought all model 19s were pre-lock. What’s happening here? Edit: ah, it’s a reissue. Pass. |
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Posted: 2/27/2021 6:10:31 AM EDT
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Call me Old Fashioned, but I like my firing pin on my hammer. It's a more desirable feature (to me) than being P & R.
19-3, 19-4 is best 19. |
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Posted: 2/27/2021 6:23:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush. A babe in the kitchen is worth two on the beach.
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Posted: 2/27/2021 6:53:48 AM EDT
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I have a 66-3. The K frame revolvers are where it's at. I wouldn't hesitate buying from the Classic line of revolvers. Enjoy your purchase.
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Posted: 2/27/2021 7:26:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How much did they have to pay him to say that? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This old guy was an armorer for smith and wesson and he hand built the original model 19's in the 1970's. He says the claim that they dont build them like they used to is nonsense. The new classic model that just came out a few years ago is better built and tougher in every single way you can list according to him. And this video helped me make up my mind on whether I wanted an actual old classic model or the new "classic" model. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h9l2ipiKf4 How much did they have to pay him to say that? The Fluff......I was waiting for you or Miami to chime in. 
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Posted: 2/27/2021 7:32:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Brilliant! If I had any post-lock S&Ws, every one would have that on it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Brilliant! If I had any post-lock S&Ws, every one would have that on it. I used these back when Bullseye Smith produced them. Took that stupid flag out and threw it like a frisbee into the trash can. I got pretty good at that frisbee throw. Link |
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Posted: 2/27/2021 7:37:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And MIM parts. MIM parts are much better than the used to be. Not too many years ago they were still figuring it out and they were junk. Now you'll be hard pressed to find a power tool that doesn't have MIM gears, for example, even Hilti have switched over. A MIM part isn't for every application but there are lots that it's absolutely fine for. |
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Posted: 2/27/2021 8:03:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: MIM parts are much better than the used to be. Not too many years ago they were still figuring it out and they were junk. Now you'll be hard pressed to find a power tool that doesn't have MIM gears, for example, even Hilti have switched over. A MIM part isn't for every application but there are lots that it's absolutely fine for. I got some of the Classics about 15 years ago......they are fine. Never had a problem with any of them but, as I said above, I IMMEDIATELY discarded that stupid lock and installed a "Plug". Easy to do. My favorite is the 1917 Classic Model 22 in .45acp (I put on larger grips though, the standard grips are too small if you have large hands).  No longer in production currently. |
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Posted: 2/27/2021 10:54:12 AM EDT
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My Model 19 CHP Commemorative
Love old S&W revolvers Going to get a Model 13 one of these days  
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Posted: 2/27/2021 2:03:58 PM EDT
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@DaddyShark
Glad you are happy with your purchase. Still sad that S&W still uses the lock, but so be it. I’m very happy with my Classic M29. Also enjoy my M19-4 (prolly paid more than its worth) Point being, screw the haters. Just enjoy.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/27/2021 2:35:02 PM EDT
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My 19-3, trigger has been worked, smooth as silk.
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Posted: 2/27/2021 8:13:58 PM EDT
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Suposedly the new K frames are sturdier than the old ones. May be true but the lock and the two piece barrels are not something I want.
That said I prefer the older S&W with the hammer mounted firing pins. |
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