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Posted: 2/21/2024 12:10:41 AM EDT
Just ordered an AGM Rattler V2 TS35-384.

What do you have?

What do I need to know?

VP
Link Posted: 2/21/2024 12:13:00 AM EDT
[#1]
Coyote setup. Congrats!

Link Posted: 2/21/2024 12:13:02 AM EDT
[#2]
I have the older 23-384. You will need melatonin to combat the urge on work nights.
*25-384
Suppressed whatever and a good tripod. If you wind up walking a pvs 14.
Link Posted: 2/21/2024 12:14:50 AM EDT
[#3]
I got a Nvision Halo-50X a couple weeks ago.

It’s pretty sweet.
Link Posted: 2/21/2024 12:14:57 AM EDT
[#4]
Is it true you need a 1.5 inch lpvo mount to use a clip on thermal because thermals are designed around that height?
Link Posted: 2/21/2024 12:16:58 AM EDT
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Is it true you need a 1.5 inch lpvo mount to use a clip on thermal because thermals are designed around that height?
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No. For instance, the factory RH25 mount that mitigates recoil is 1.93. The ADM mount/pictail for the RH25 are matched to ADM’s recon (1.53 mount). I use a 1.7 mount with no issues on a LPVO setup.

Don’t have to run an LPVO, either.

Link Posted: 2/21/2024 12:22:28 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/21/2024 12:22:55 AM EDT
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No. For instance, the factory RH25 mount that mitigates recoil is 1.93. The ADM mount/pictail are matched to ADM’s recon (1.53 mount). I use a 1.7 mount with no issues on a LPVO setup.

Don’t have to run an LPVO, either.

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Ah, I have an Elcan too but assumed it was 1.5 in. Is it 1.93?

I ordered a March to replace it but want to go lower (1.35 in) but not so low I can’t attach thermal.
Link Posted: 2/21/2024 12:27:32 AM EDT
[#8]
I have had my V1 T35-384 for a few months and haven't even had the time to sight in rifles with it.  I just wander the park behind my house and take pics.  I think these were about 80yrds.

On the sight the pics are cleaner

Fusion



White Hot



Black Hot



Link Posted: 2/21/2024 12:33:35 AM EDT
[#9]
Bering super yoter 640 35mm on the 6.5 Grendel at the moment and an agm rattler 285 I'm using mostly as a handheld scanner right now. Makes for a handy way to not have to keep swinging the rifle around on the tripod to glass.

missed a group of coyotes last night they were just too far for me to figure hold over so I may switch it up this weekend And put it on a 243 bolt gun I'm still trying to figure this all out lol

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Link Posted: 2/21/2024 12:34:48 AM EDT
[#10]
It's a game changer.
Link Posted: 2/21/2024 12:35:00 AM EDT
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Once you start using it, you're going to want a 640.  That's what I learned.  Now that I have a 640, I want more.  Second lesson was that for my application,  base magnification was key.  Third thing is you're gonna want a separate thermal spotter as that's what you well spend most of your time looking through.

I'm very happy with my current setup and I've been using it multiple times a week during the last few months.  So many stories to tell.  It is cheat code stuff.

Thermion XG50
Axion XG35 LRF

Link Posted: 2/21/2024 12:36:06 AM EDT
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Ah, I have an Elcan too but assumed it was 1.5 in. Is it 1.93?

I ordered a March to replace it but want to go lower (1.35 in) but not so low I can’t attach thermal.
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1.5ish.

Just to put it out there…Clip-ons are optimized for specific magnification ranges. I find my unit’s image quality starts to fall off beyond 4x.
Link Posted: 2/21/2024 12:36:24 AM EDT
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No. For instance, the factory RH25 mount that mitigates recoil is 1.93. The ADM mount/pictail for the RH25 are matched to ADM's recon (1.53 mount). I use a 1.7 mount with no issues on a LPVO setup.

Don't have to run an LPVO, either.

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I called this morning. They're not expecting to have the Elevate  in stock for another month.
Link Posted: 2/21/2024 12:37:27 AM EDT
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I'm just about to pull the trigger on a new Rattler.  Can you focus the ocular like in a regular scope, or put differently, sharpen the image to suit your eyes?
Link Posted: 2/21/2024 12:38:40 AM EDT
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I called this morning. They're not expecting to have the Elevate  in stock for another month.
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Good eye. They’re just down the road from me.
Link Posted: 2/21/2024 12:44:38 AM EDT
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I'm just about to pull the trigger on a new Rattler.  Can you focus the ocular like in a regular scope, or put differently, sharpen the image to suit your eyes?
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Yes ocular and diopter adjustments
Link Posted: 2/21/2024 1:00:05 AM EDT
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You can go all night with an external battery pack . Two velcro straps will secure it to your gun just fine. A magnetic connector  can help prevent scope damage but I've had them come loose under recoil (some duct tape cured that issue).
Link Posted: 2/21/2024 1:16:03 AM EDT
[#18]
Pulsar  Thermion2 XP50Pro

Game changer.

I'm just getting started.  But, I remember when I first got Gen3 NV, I was blown away.......this is more game-changery.
Link Posted: 2/21/2024 1:16:17 AM EDT
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Just ordered an AGM Rattler V2 TS35-384.

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I have a bearing optics Hogster R35.

A hand held scanner would be handy and a lot more comfortable than scanning with the rifle. An external battery is a must.

Link Posted: 2/21/2024 1:21:41 AM EDT
[#20]
What guns are you guys putting your thermal on?
Link Posted: 2/21/2024 1:22:15 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/21/2024 1:37:49 AM EDT
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Good choice. I love mine.
Have it on a Larue 6.5 Grendel

Get some Hot Hands to help sight it in.

Have fun shooting hogs and yotes at night.

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Not a fan of hot hands…for sighting in.

I found a small piece of folded aluminum foil works very well.

Link Posted: 2/21/2024 1:57:20 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/21/2024 2:01:27 AM EDT
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Not a fan of hot hands…for sighting in.

I found a small piece of folded aluminum foil works very well.
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good call, I use the foil tape that goes on air conditioner ducts
Link Posted: 2/21/2024 2:09:48 AM EDT
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Pulsar  Thermion2 XP50Pro

Game changer.

I'm just getting started.  But, I remember when I first got Gen3 NV, I was blown away.......this is more game-changery.
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people say night vision is a super power. Thermal IS a super power.
Link Posted: 2/21/2024 2:14:18 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/21/2024 2:29:18 AM EDT
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Any thoughts on Archer in general, or the Archer TSA-9/50 and TSA-9/75 specifically?
Link Posted: 2/21/2024 10:18:12 AM EDT
[#28]
This should be in the NV Community section. You'd get alot more traction.
Link Posted: 2/21/2024 10:26:08 AM EDT
[#29]
Trijicon REAP IR 35 scope on a 6.5 Grendel and Burris BTH 35 scanner.

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Link Posted: 2/21/2024 10:36:52 AM EDT
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EoTech ClipIR, clip on thermal, optimized for 6-8x, but works well up to 10x as long as you don’t mind a more narrow FOV.

Sensor quality is fantastic.

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Link Posted: 2/21/2024 10:38:32 AM EDT
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I'm in the market for a thermal sight.

Why should I get a Rattler over a Hogster?

Been looking at both.

Got to be in $3-4K range.



Link Posted: 2/21/2024 11:07:45 AM EDT
[#32]
I bought into night vision a couple of years ago. It was a stunning upgrade in capabilities. That success and comments here convinced me to buy thermal (Hogster). Sadly, it is all but useless  in my environment.

We live on heavily forested property in the southern Appalachians. The trees all read "hot" and there is nothing but thick trees everywhere. The only reason I have kept it is that it would be devastating for defending our long approach road if the world goes to hell.

It's zeroed and ready with 77-grain OTM, but every time I open the safe, I ask myself if perhaps I shouldn't part with it.
Link Posted: 2/21/2024 11:11:43 AM EDT
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I'm going to jump in on this too.

I want one, but I want it for relatively short distances. Any good options for plunking rats with a .22 inside of about 50 yards, or is night vision a better option?
Link Posted: 2/21/2024 11:30:17 AM EDT
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I'm going to jump in on this too.

I want one, but I want it for relatively short distances. Any good options for plunking rats with a .22 inside of about 50 yards, or is night vision a better option?
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Thermal for living things is always way better than NV. With NV, even good NV, if something isn't moving and it even remotely blends in with it's background it can be very difficult to see unless you're hammering it with IR illumination.

Thermal? It just glows. It can't hide.

Unless it's really thick vegetation where it makes PID difficult.....or behind glass, but I don't think rats would give you that problem.
Link Posted: 2/21/2024 11:37:14 AM EDT
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I'm in the market for a thermal sight.

Why should I get a Rattler over a Hogster?

Been looking at both.

Got to be in $3-4K range.



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Rattler V2 > Hogster > Rattler V1 due to features and battery life.
Link Posted: 2/21/2024 11:38:23 AM EDT
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They let you see things hotter than the surrounding environment.

You really should do more research before purchasing things. SMH.

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Link Posted: 2/21/2024 11:38:28 AM EDT
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I picked up a handheld recently

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Link Posted: 2/21/2024 11:43:26 AM EDT
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I bought an AGM Adder TS50-640 a year and a half ago.  I sighted it in once
Link Posted: 2/21/2024 12:22:17 PM EDT
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I'm in the market for a thermal sight.

Why should I get a Rattler over a Hogster?

Been looking at both.

Got to be in $3-4K range.



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3-4k look at the yoter line instead of Hogster you'll get 640 resolution
Link Posted: 2/21/2024 12:29:07 PM EDT
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I have a FLIR/Armasight Zeus 640 core/30hz 2-16x50mm.

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Get a new one. They blow away what I have.
Link Posted: 2/21/2024 12:33:28 PM EDT
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Pulsar Trail 2 XQ50 LRF on a Larue AR-15 in 6.5G with Sandman S. Pulsar Accolade 2 pro LRF binos.


Link Posted: 2/21/2024 12:41:07 PM EDT
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No love for the ATN Thor IV or V here?

I've been looking at getting into the thermal game and honed in on ATN but no one seems to have practical info on it.



H
Link Posted: 2/21/2024 1:08:07 PM EDT
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Oh that's right.  I'm apparently a poor.  

~85th percentile household income.
~80th percentile household net worth.
Come in to threads like this and think:  How the fuck do you guys afford this shit?
Link Posted: 2/21/2024 1:10:21 PM EDT
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Foil dosen't work well here in Idaho where it's 40 degrees or so and overcast.
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Foil dosen't work well here in Idaho where it's 40 degrees or so and overcast.


It was -22 and overcast when the pic was taken.


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Oh that's right.  I'm apparently a poor.  

~85th percentile household income.
~80th percentile household net worth.
Come in to threads like this and think:  How the fuck do you guys afford this shit?



Stop being THAT guy and go out and work for it. It’s not a mystery.
Link Posted: 2/21/2024 1:14:54 PM EDT
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Mine clips onto my PVS-14
Link Posted: 2/21/2024 1:18:58 PM EDT
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Once you start using it, you're going to want a 640.  That's what I learned.  Now that I have a 640, I want more.  Second lesson was that for my application,  base magnification was key.  Third thing is you're gonna want a separate thermal spotter as that's what you well spend most of your time looking through.

I'm very happy with my current setup and I've been using it multiple times a week during the last few months.  So many stories to tell.  It is cheat code stuff.

Thermion XG50
Axion XG35 LRF

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This.   I have a cheaper Rattler 384 that I have set up for my son to use when we go out for coyotes.  I have a super Yoter 640 on my setup.   I always spot the animals before he can see them, and can discern what they are far beyond what he can.  Sometimes when they are around trees or brush,  the animals blend right in with the surroundings, and he can't see them at all.  He will often spot an animal at 200 yards and ask what is that?  He can't distinguish if its a small deer or a coyote.   I look through mine, and can tell instantly what it is.

It's a good starting point,  but once you try a 640,  it's hard to go back.
Link Posted: 2/21/2024 1:26:33 PM EDT
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First i bought a 384 then I went coyote hunting with a guy with a trijicon ir-hunter 640 so I bought one. Thermal improves every year so when it does I will upgrade.
Link Posted: 2/21/2024 1:37:23 PM EDT
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Just ordered an AGM Rattler V2 TS35-384.

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AGM Rattler TS25-384. Mid range for me. Love it.
Link Posted: 2/21/2024 1:51:02 PM EDT
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ive got 2 bering hogster R35's and 2 Pulsar thermion 2 xp50's.
Both hogsters are on 5.56 Ar's. 1 pulsar on a bolt action, and the other is currently on a suppressed 7.5" .22lr AR lol, just cause its fun to walk out and pop a armadillo or opossum.
2 nights ago i put a opossum down at roughly 90 yards with subsonics.

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