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Posted: 1/21/2021 9:38:22 AM EDT
Worth the watch, this man knows his shit regarding weapons and ballistics. Totally took me by surprise.
 Judge Joe Brown: James Earl Ray Didn't Assassinate Martin Luther King Jr (Flashback) I don't know what the running conspiracies are about the MLK assassination. I'm sure some of you can chime in on that. But I had no clue there were conflicting reports and discrepancies this big. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 9:42:45 AM EDT
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I know he's a shooter as I know a manufacturer that built a custom gun for him.
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Posted: 1/21/2021 9:44:57 AM EDT
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Joe Brown can eat a giant bag of aids infected, razor studded, puss oozing BBC’s. He’s just another Shit Stain like Memphis.
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Posted: 1/21/2021 9:48:40 AM EDT
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A judge who had given James Earl Ray hope of getting a retrial in the assassination of the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. has been taken off the case for appearing to be biased toward Mr. Ray. Judge Joe Brown of Criminal Court has ruled on various petitions Mr. Ray has filed over the past four years in his effort to recant his confession that he shot Dr. King in Memphis in 1968. Prosecutors said Judge Brown, 50, a Criminal Court judge since 1990, repeatedly went beyond the narrow legal questions raised in Mr. Ray's petitions. The state Court of Criminal Appeals agreed on Friday, saying Judge Brown ''continues to engage in a fact-finding mission.'' Comments that Mr. Brown made in newspaper and television interviews gave the appearance of bias against prosecutors, the court said. Mr. Ray, who is serving a 99-year prison sentence, was captured in England four months after Dr. King was killed. He pleaded guilty in 1969 but almost immediately began trying to change his plea. Judge Brown allowed new tests last year on Mr. Ray's rifle, which was found near the murder scene with Mr. Ray's fingerprints on it. The tests failed to prove whether the hunting rifle was the murder weapon, though Dr. King was killed by the same kind of gun. Similar tests by the Federal Bureau of Investigation in 1968 and a United States House committee in 1978 were also inconclusive. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 9:51:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know he's a shooter as I know a manufacturer that built a custom gun for him. Quote HistoryQuoted: I know he's a shooter as I know a manufacturer that built a custom gun for him. Quoted: Joe Brown can eat a giant bag of aids infected, razor studded, puss oozing BBC’s. He’s just another Shit Stain like Memphis. Ahh, the dichotomy of GD 
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Posted: 1/21/2021 9:53:46 AM EDT
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Interesting. He sounds very knowledgeable about the facts and presents his case clearly and to the point. That's refreshing. I don't doubt him one bit and, well, don't hate me for not trusting our government.
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Posted: 1/21/2021 10:06:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The tests failed to prove whether the hunting rifle was the murder weapon, though Dr. King was killed by the same kind of gun. Similar tests by the Federal Bureau of Investigation in 1968 and a United States House committee in 1978 were also inconclusive. How the hell did they establish "same kind of gun" and what does that mean lol. "Same kind" as in; it was a rifle?  |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 10:15:09 AM EDT
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It was actually a phased plasma cannon in the 40 watt range wielded by a time traveling Trump supporter racist.
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Posted: 1/21/2021 10:28:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How the hell did they establish "same kind of gun" and what does that mean lol. "Same kind" as in; it was a rifle? I'm guessing same .308 diameter projectile. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 10:36:10 AM EDT
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I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it was the CIA/FBI/Gov that killed MLK, they really hated the dude.
But so did a lot of racist assholes, and there was plenty of overlap between them. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 10:51:10 AM EDT
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The fact that they couldn't link the 760 Gamemaster rifle to the bullet recovered in MLK is reasonable enough for me to question the narrative.
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Posted: 1/21/2021 11:02:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Joe Brown can eat a giant bag of aids infected, razor studded, puss oozing BBC’s. He’s just another Shit Stain like Memphis. Did he send you up the river? |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 11:10:15 AM EDT
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It was a dream round.
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Posted: 1/21/2021 11:10:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it was the CIA/FBI/Gov that killed MLK, they really hated the dude. But so did a lot of racist assholes, and there was plenty of overlap between them. ETA when I say him I'm referring to MLK. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 11:12:36 AM EDT
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Again??
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Posted: 1/21/2021 11:35:26 AM EDT
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Wasn't the guy that killed him a Democrat?
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Posted: 1/21/2021 1:28:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wasn't the guy that killed him a Democrat? No surprises there! |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 1:53:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Joe Brown can eat a giant bag of aids infected, razor studded, puss oozing BBC’s. He’s just another Shit Stain like Memphis. Oh my goodness gracious! |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 1:56:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it was the CIA/FBI/Gov that killed MLK, they really hated the dude. But so did a lot of racist assholes, and there was plenty of overlap between them. Me neither. James Earl Ray was a fall guy. He had never successfully committed a crime and all of a sudden was a sniper with a fake passport and cash. It seems like a stretch |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 1:58:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The fact that they couldn't link the 760 Gamemaster rifle to the bullet recovered in MLK is reasonable enough for me to question the narrative. Over the years I have read that the weapon used was a Winchester Model 70 in .30-06...........who really knows Unconvinced that Ray killed him............and many in the King family dont believe it either |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 2:04:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Me neither. James Earl Ray was a fall guy. He had never successfully committed a crime and all of a sudden was a sniper with a fake passport and cash. It seems like a stretch Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it was the CIA/FBI/Gov that killed MLK, they really hated the dude. But so did a lot of racist assholes, and there was plenty of overlap between them. Me neither. James Earl Ray was a fall guy. He had never successfully committed a crime and all of a sudden was a sniper with a fake passport and cash. It seems like a stretch Ray committed a variety of crimes prior to the murder of King. Ray's first conviction for criminal activity, a burglary in California, came in 1949. In 1952, he served two years for the armed robbery of a taxi driver in Illinois. In 1955, Ray was convicted of mail fraud after stealing money orders in Hannibal, Missouri, then forging them to take a trip to Florida. He served four years in Leavenworth. In 1959, Ray was caught stealing $120 in an armed robbery of a St. Louis Kroger store.[9] Ray was sentenced to twenty years in prison for repeated offenses. He escaped from the Missouri State Penitentiary in 1967 by hiding in a truck transporting bread from the prison bakery.[10] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Earl_Ray I get what you're saying though. He was just a regular scumbag, not Jason Bourne. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 2:07:21 PM EDT
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The agency that tried to dig up dirt on the guy was the same agency that later investigated his murder... Im just saying that isn't 100% ethical.
and the guy who takes the fall goes from petty crook for self interest to targeted racial/political assination WITH international flight , fake passports, and bundles of cash... |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 2:12:20 PM EDT
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Jump to 3:17 for rifle details.
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Posted: 1/21/2021 2:14:43 PM EDT
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MLK had a dream, JER had a plan...
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Posted: 1/21/2021 2:16:51 PM EDT
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A certain Keith Gilbert that went by the name of "Diesel" on firearm forums in the early 2000s also had a conspiracy charge against him in the 60s when he helped plant multiple pounds of explosives under an auditorium that MLK was scheduled to speak on.
They martyred MLK in name only... |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 2:19:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Prosecutors said Judge Brown, 50, a Criminal Court judge since 1990, He’s been a criminal court judge since he was 19? |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 2:33:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He's been a criminal court judge since he was 19? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Prosecutors said Judge Brown, 50, a Criminal Court judge since 1990, He's been a criminal court judge since he was 19? Old article. Notice that Ray is still referred to in the present (living) tense; he died in 1998. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 2:38:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The fact that they couldn't link the 760 Gamemaster rifle to the bullet recovered in MLK is reasonable enough for me to question the narrative. Well, contrary to those movies and TV shows we've all seen, a lot of times bullets end up looking more like the one on the left than the one on the right Ben Branch, musician and friend of MLK Jr. who was with him at the time of his death and witnessed the shooting, stated, "The bullet exploded in his face." Now I don't know what that means, but I'm guessing it could mean there was a good bit of fragmentation upon impact, and the bullet didn't stay all nice and neat in one piece like we see on every episode of CSI: Miami |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 2:39:56 PM EDT
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M14s and suppressors are racist, they should probably ban them
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Posted: 1/21/2021 2:42:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ray committed a variety of crimes prior to the murder of King. Ray's first conviction for criminal activity, a burglary in California, came in 1949. In 1952, he served two years for the armed robbery of a taxi driver in Illinois. In 1955, Ray was convicted of mail fraud after stealing money orders in Hannibal, Missouri, then forging them to take a trip to Florida. He served four years in Leavenworth. In 1959, Ray was caught stealing $120 in an armed robbery of a St. Louis Kroger store.[9] Ray was sentenced to twenty years in prison for repeated offenses. He escaped from the Missouri State Penitentiary in 1967 by hiding in a truck transporting bread from the prison bakery.[10] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Earl_Ray I get what you're saying though. He was just a regular scumbag, not Jason Bourne. To me, this sounds like the perfect fall guy. You can't really get any better than this unless you came across someone with a history of violent criminal offenses that just happens to not be serving a term in prison already. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 2:44:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, contrary to those movies and TV shows we've all seen, a lot of times bullets end up looking more like the one on the left than the one on the right https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-73825f50bbb77f675c6fa220d4011749 Ben Branch, musician and friend of MLK Jr. who was with him at the time of his death and witnessed the shooting, stated, "The bullet exploded in his face." Now I don't know what that means, but I'm guessing it could mean there was a good bit of fragmentation upon impact, and the bullet didn't stay all nice and neat in one piece like we see on every episode of CSI: Miami Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The fact that they couldn't link the 760 Gamemaster rifle to the bullet recovered in MLK is reasonable enough for me to question the narrative. Well, contrary to those movies and TV shows we've all seen, a lot of times bullets end up looking more like the one on the left than the one on the right https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-73825f50bbb77f675c6fa220d4011749 Ben Branch, musician and friend of MLK Jr. who was with him at the time of his death and witnessed the shooting, stated, "The bullet exploded in his face." Now I don't know what that means, but I'm guessing it could mean there was a good bit of fragmentation upon impact, and the bullet didn't stay all nice and neat in one piece like we see on every episode of CSI: Miami |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 2:49:25 PM EDT
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Everything I've always seen was the Remington pump 760. I never knew the caliber. It only stands out to me because my first deer rifle was the newer version the 7600. Shot a lot of deer with it with plain old yellow and green box Remington loads. I never saw a bullet shred like that, I've seen jacket separation and standard mushrooming, but never total frag. Maybe if you fired like 110 grain or 120 grain bullet from a magnum caliber, you'd get frag, but you'd also get really shallow penetration.
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Posted: 1/21/2021 3:01:52 PM EDT
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Article said Ray's finger prints were on the rifle, but the FBI report released by Trump stated Ray's prints were not on the rifle. A photo copy of the report was included in the document dump on Kennedy and King.
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Posted: 1/21/2021 3:07:55 PM EDT
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Joe Brown did say the round was subsonic. Current examples are 200grn. I agree with the idea that what was witnessed was bone and flesh fragmentation, not bullet more than likely.
Projectile held enough form and energy to continue traveling around after initial penetration according to Brown's account. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 3:24:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/21/2021 3:25:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Judge Brown allowed new tests last year on Mr. Ray's rifle, which was found near the murder scene with Mr. Ray's fingerprints on it. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 3:27:36 PM EDT
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another take on the ballistics/trajectory here
Forensic Surveyor Examines King’s Assassination The television show “America Declassified” will take a look at the work of Jack McAdoo. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 3:27:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To me, this sounds like the perfect fall guy. You can't really get any better than this unless you came across someone with a history of violent criminal offenses that just happens to not be serving a term in prison already. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ray committed a variety of crimes prior to the murder of King. Ray's first conviction for criminal activity, a burglary in California, came in 1949. In 1952, he served two years for the armed robbery of a taxi driver in Illinois. In 1955, Ray was convicted of mail fraud after stealing money orders in Hannibal, Missouri, then forging them to take a trip to Florida. He served four years in Leavenworth. In 1959, Ray was caught stealing $120 in an armed robbery of a St. Louis Kroger store.[9] Ray was sentenced to twenty years in prison for repeated offenses. He escaped from the Missouri State Penitentiary in 1967 by hiding in a truck transporting bread from the prison bakery.[10] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Earl_Ray I get what you're saying though. He was just a regular scumbag, not Jason Bourne. To me, this sounds like the perfect fall guy. You can't really get any better than this unless you came across someone with a history of violent criminal offenses that just happens to not be serving a term in prison already. On the other hand he was a career criminal, hated black folks, had already escaped prison, and then add in that lots of drivers licenses didn't even have a picture at this time. Couldn't have been too hard to fake a passport and hop a flight after living under fake names your whole life. Who the hell knows. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 3:31:07 PM EDT
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Conspiracy tards
 If the "gubment" wanted him dead for real, there were much easier and less spectacular ways that would invite much less suspicion available at their disposal than some using some cockamamie patsy and an XM-21 with subsonic ammo or whatever horseshit this clown is selling. Think house fire, "robbery gone bad", car accident on the highway, etc. Mouth breathers here apparently think it takes a criminal mastermind to blast someone off a hotel balcony from 50 yards with a scoped 30-06
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Posted: 1/21/2021 3:32:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: M14s and suppressors are racist, they should probably ban them Does this mean I have to get rid of my M1A or am I good? |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 3:39:23 PM EDT
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I was not aware that suppressors reduce supersonic velocities to subsonic.
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Posted: 1/21/2021 3:41:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Conspiracy tards If the "gubment" wanted him dead for real, there were much easier and less spectacular ways that would invite much less suspicion available at their disposal than some using some cockamamie patsy and an XM-21 with subsonic ammo or whatever horseshit this clown is selling. Think house fire, "robbery gone bad", car accident on the highway, etc. Mouth breathers here apparently think it takes a criminal mastermind to blast someone off a hotel balcony from 50 yards with a scoped 30-06 I don't think anyone has raised any conspiracies here? The video is an account from a primary source (an actual Judge involved with the case) and everyone else seems to be discussing or presenting actual historical accounts. Did you read the thread "tard"
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Posted: 1/21/2021 3:46:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/21/2021 3:46:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was not aware that suppressors reduce supersonic velocities to subsonic. What? He stated they used "special subsonic ammunition with a suppressor to reduce the velocity to below supersonic". He obviously isn't implying the suppressor reduced the velocity, hence he mentioned subsonic ammunition first. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 3:46:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Joe Brown can eat a giant bag of aids infected, razor studded, puss oozing BBC’s. He’s just another Shit Stain like Memphis. the whole city? I'm so confused |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 3:50:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The fact that they couldn't link the 760 Gamemaster rifle to the bullet recovered in MLK is reasonable enough for me to question the narrative. Meh, let's see the bullet. A high velocity rifle bullet can get real messed up. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 3:52:52 PM EDT
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The XM21 was first fielded in the 2nd half of 1969.
King was shot in April 1968. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 3:55:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was not aware that suppressors reduce supersonic velocities to subsonic. Some do. But those were on SMGs IIRC. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 3:57:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/21/2021 3:58:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What? He stated they used "special subsonic ammunition with a suppressor to reduce the velocity to below supersonic". He obviously isn't implying the suppressor reduced the velocity, hence he mentioned subsonic ammunition first. I'm thinking the XM21 would need mods to run with subsonic. But there also were no XM21s when King was killed. They were being designed in 1968. |
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Posted: 1/21/2021 4:04:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm thinking the XM21 would need mods to run with subsonic. But there also were no XM21s when King was killed. They were being designed in 1968. Doesn't matter if you need to only take a single shot. Plus you could run one with the gas system off for increased stealth and hand cycling for follow up shots. |
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