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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:05:30 PM EDT
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Quoted: There stock has been on a steady decline all the way to about $2.50 a share until this last month or so when it shot up a whole dollar.... Yet they have been doing a good bit of R&D on gasoline engines ignition systems with their skyactive X tech, and others, new models seem attractive (relatively speaking) Why has their stock value dropped so low over the last 6 years or so? When’s the last time you saw a Mazda on the road? That will answer your question. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:05:54 PM EDT
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In the past few years their sales figures and accompanying revenue has declined. They have zero roadmap for BEVs going forward which is naturally going to scare off investors as well.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:05:54 PM EDT
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Not if you ask reddit.
“DAE Miata best car ever zoom-zoom, Matsuda is literally killing it!” |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:07:13 PM EDT
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Time to target a more......diverse customer base.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:08:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When’s the last time you saw a Mazda on the road? That will answer your question. What do you mean? They’re all over the place. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:09:23 PM EDT
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I guess you never know. They seem to make decent stuff. I like that they still use conventional autos instead of cvt's. I'd like to drive one of the CX5 turbo cars but they're out of my price range.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:09:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not if you ask reddit. “DAE Miata best car ever zoom-zoom, Matsuda is literally killing it!” Well I do like the new Miata. Kinda want one, and I do see Mazda crossovers often. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:09:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When’s the last time you saw a Mazda on the road? That will answer your question. Their little crossovers are everywhere. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:10:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When’s the last time you saw a Mazda on the road? That will answer your question. Everyday all day? |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:11:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When’s the last time you saw a Mazda on the road? That will answer your question. My wife has a 2011 Mazda 6 and I have a 2004 Miata. But if it means anything, about 2 years ago they closed down the dealership here and consolidated what was left of it with one in a nearby larger city. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:13:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When’s the last time you saw a Mazda on the road? That will answer your question. Uhh...It might be time to venture out of the basement. I know it's hard but I believe in you. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:14:09 PM EDT
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I hope not. They seem to be the only Japanese manufacturer that still gives a damn about driving dynamics throughout their line.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:14:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When's the last time you saw a Mazda on the road? That will answer your question. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:15:01 PM EDT
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Basically sporty Toyota. Never had an issue with the ones we have had but the newer Camrys feel just as sporty.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:15:24 PM EDT
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Their new engine is revolutionary for combustion engines......unfortunately that doesn't excite wall street in the age of EV's
They make really good cars right now. They're in the middle of trying to tap the upscale side of the economy market. All of their current models have great interiors and provide great value, and regularly get rave reviews from major auto journalists. My sister has a 2005 Mazda3....other than regular oil changes, she's beaten the hell out of it. It has 200k+ miles on the odometer and it runs great. Only recently started having any significant mechanical issues, which were all easily fixed. Mazda makes great cars. They're incredibly reliable, their interiors currently are top notch and punch way above their weight. They just don't seem to be resonating with end-buyers in comparison to what Toyota, Kia, and Hyundai are doing. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:17:14 PM EDT
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Because the newer models are shit with awful quality control.
I had a 2014 Mazda 6 and three years right after warranty expired the gear selector switch became defective. Car would be in park but the engine wouldn't turn off. Mazda refused to help out. I had to tear the interior down to the gear selector and swap the switch out myself. It's a common issue within a specific number of VINs. It should if been a safety recall. My wife's 2016 driver side seat motor went a week after warranty expired. Luckily they fixed that one for us. Both Mazda windows are loose and can move around with your hand about an inch. Mazda deemed this normal. They are both rattle boxes with terrible sound deadening inside. Sounds like we are in a constant wind tunnel. Will never buy another Mazda again. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:17:46 PM EDT
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As a fairly small company they are partnering with other companies on different development projects (GM with electric and Toyota with power plant and platforms).
They are moving upmarket (better margins) with a new family of Skyactiv engines (straight 6 and a 4 cylinder) and platforms that will also be used in future Lexus products. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:19:04 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope not. They seem to be the only Japanese manufacturer that still gives a damn about driving dynamics throughout their line. They are moving away from dynamics. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:20:09 PM EDT
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Mazda is a solid vehicle, still a lot of Japanese made models and introduces solid new technology.
People buy kia and hyundai because they’re cheap and have long warranties. Nissans are crap. Toyota has become too big for their britches and keeps current models around way too long. Honda is good stuff except when they go cheap on engine components, like the piston ring fiasco. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:20:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When’s the last time you saw a Mazda on the road? That will answer your question. All the time. It’s not uncommon to park at a big box store and see multiple ones of the same model I drive. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:21:11 PM EDT
[#21]
Love my Mazda 6
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:21:11 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When's the last time you saw a Mazda on the road? That will answer your question. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:21:35 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What do you mean? They're all over the place. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: When's the last time you saw a Mazda on the road? That will answer your question. What do you mean? They're all over the place. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:22:01 PM EDT
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At one point Ford owned 90% of Mazda.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:22:33 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Their new engine is revolutionary for combustion engines......unfortunately that doesn't excite wall street in the age of EV's They make really good cars right now. They're in the middle of trying to tap the upscale side of the economy market. All of their current models have great interiors and provide great value, and regularly get rave reviews from major auto journalists. My sister has a 2005 Mazda3....other than regular oil changes, she's beaten the hell out of it. It has 200k+ miles on the odometer and it runs great. Only recently started having any significant mechanical issues, which were all easily fixed. Mazda makes great cars. They're incredibly reliable, their interiors currently are top notch and punch way above their weight. They just don't seem to be resonating with end-buyers in comparison to what Toyota, Kia, and Hyundai are doing. A CX-5 turbo AWD is on my short list. Nothing really like it for under 50k. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:22:59 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When’s the last time you saw a Mazda on the road? That will answer your question. Every day. Alot of rental cars and fleet vehicles around here. Drove a CX5 when wifes car was in body shop. Solid little car with good options. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:23:24 PM EDT
[#27]
30 years ago they made decent vehicles. Ever had the joy of working on the garbage they crank out now?
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:27:35 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: At one point Ford owned 90% of Mazda. Want to know how I know you just pulled that out of your ass to up your post count I guess? |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:27:53 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 30 years ago they made decent vehicles. Ever had the joy of working on the garbage they crank out now? Meh. The radiator in the Mazda6 is about the worst thing I've had to do. It's nothing but time consuming. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:31:13 PM EDT
[#30]
I'm looking forward to the I6 RWD Mazda 6. They're trying to upscale a bit under the current manufacturer's premium lines which puts them, IMHO, in a good market. There's so much shit in cars these days that premium/luxury level car content is ridiculous so someone that can make a nicely appointed, but not ridiculous contented car, with some nice driving dynamics would sell well. I'm hoping their sedans will turn out to be like where BMW used to be 10+ years ago.
The ND2 Miata is great as is some of their engine tech. Not sure if that's enough to re-grow or license to others though. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:31:46 PM EDT
[#31]
I've enjoyed my Mazdas, but they are definitely a niche player.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:32:00 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: At one point Ford owned 90% of Mazda. They divested in 2010, 2011 was first model years for entirely Mazda. Mazda makes great vehicles. Mine was flawless for 10 years. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:34:37 PM EDT
[#33]
Lol.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:34:49 PM EDT
[#34]
I think they’re under powered. (CX5 specifically). I get that they have to hit certain MPG, but that thing was gutless
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:35:07 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When’s the last time you saw a Mazda on the road? That will answer your question. I see lots of Mazda's on the road, nice looking, driving vehicles, too. One friend has the big one, lots of bell's and whistles for a great price. Their reliability is on par with Toyota. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:37:28 PM EDT
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Mazda is doing great in YTD sales compared to pretty much every other manufacturer. The dealer I'm at was up 20% last year over 2019, even with Covid
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:38:09 PM EDT
[#37]
We enjoyed our 2010 Mazda 6, our 2019 6 was an incredibly nice driving sedan, and there is a 2016 CX-5 in the driveway with 80K on it. Mazda makes good cars if you ask me.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:38:37 PM EDT
[#38]
Obviously OP didn’t look at 2020 sales.
Toyota and Mazda where the only ones in the black. Mazda makes some of the most reliable cars on the road at the best price point. They have the highest crash safety ratings to add. Mazda autos are everywhere here. 2 of three cars in my drive are Mazdas. I have a 2010 3. A motor mount is the only part to break in 120k miles. I had the brakes done last summer before my son took it back to college. They still has 25k worth of pad left. Mazda cars earned my respect. Mazda cars are about the only thing that GD doesn’t hate. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:39:44 PM EDT
[#39]
they don't sell a truck, so yeah..
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:40:25 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well I do like the new Miata. Kinda want one, and I do see Mazda crossovers often. It's been a couple of years and the RFs are popping up cheap on the used market. I kinda want one.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:40:58 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: But if it means anything, about 2 years ago they closed down the dealership here and consolidated what was left of it with one in a nearby larger city. They did that here before Covid hit. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:41:17 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Mazda is doing great in YTD sales compared to pretty much every other manufacturer. The dealer I'm at was up 20% last year over 2019, even with Covid Lol! Their sales have been sucking/declining for quite a long time now. They may as well be Mitsubishi. A 20% increase of 10 units is still just 2 units. I’m not knock knocking them, their sedans drive great. But nobody wants sedans. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:42:37 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As a fairly small company they are partnering with other companies on different development projects (GM with electric and Toyota with power plant and platforms). They are moving upmarket (better margins) with a new family of Skyactiv engines (straight 6 and a 4 cylinder) and platforms that will also be used in future Lexus products. wat? tell me mor! |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:44:02 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Meh. The radiator in the Mazda6 is about the worst thing I've had to do. It's nothing but time consuming. Too bad that’s just one vehicle. Radiator, that’s childs play. My wife could do that. Track down an odd current draw issue. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:48:40 PM EDT
[#45]
Quick search showed that 2020 fiscal year results which ended March 31, 2020 yielded an 81% decrease in profits.
Poor profits = poor stock price. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:49:27 PM EDT
[#46]
I see Mazdas everywhere, but I think they have made a couple of mistakes.
Not developing a V6 Skyactiv engine. Not offering at 2.0 turbo in their Miata at the very least. Probably should go with their 2.5 turbo. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:49:42 PM EDT
[#47]
I see Mazdas everywhere, but I think they have made a couple of mistakes.
Not developing a V6 Skyactiv engine. Not offering at 2.0 turbo in their Miata at the very least. Probably should go with their 2.5 turbo. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:49:57 PM EDT
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Never had a problem selling a used Mazda. I don't like them from a personal driving standpoint, but they are one of the better used car values out there currently.
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:50:21 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When’s the last time you saw a Mazda on the road? That will answer your question. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There stock has been on a steady decline all the way to about $2.50 a share until this last month or so when it shot up a whole dollar.... Yet they have been doing a good bit of R&D on gasoline engines ignition systems with their skyactive X tech, and others, new models seem attractive (relatively speaking) Why has their stock value dropped so low over the last 6 years or so? When’s the last time you saw a Mazda on the road? That will answer your question. First post swing and a miss. There are plenty of Mazda vehicles on the road. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 6:51:01 PM EDT
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Mazda's are awesome little cars. My ex has a 2004 with around 300k miles on it now with no major issues outside of regular maintenance. I just bought a 2015 for a DD.
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