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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:27:25 PM EDT
[#1]
Cool.
Can we defund the FBI too? |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:28:54 PM EDT
[#2]
House Bill 3653, which passed by a 60-50 vote, will change use-of-force guidelines, require body cameras for every police department in the state, end cash bail, and strip collective bargaining rights relating to discipline from police unions. The Senate passed the bill in the early morning hours of Wednesday by a 32-23 vote. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:29:50 PM EDT
[#3]
Didn't see anything about defunding.
Also, this part at least sounds good, "strip collective bargaining rights relating to discipline from police unions" |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:29:56 PM EDT
[#4]
Burn baby burn
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:30:18 PM EDT
[#5]
One major problem that Democrats have, is that they never ask the all important question: "If I do this... what happens next"?
They are going to find themselves in trouble - very shortly. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:31:12 PM EDT
[#6]
Don't agree with the changes, but they brought some of this shit down on themselves.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:31:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How does it "defund?" Quote HistoryQuoted: House Bill 3653, which passed by a 60-50 vote, will change use-of-force guidelines, require body cameras for every police department in the state, end cash bail, and strip collective bargaining rights relating to discipline from police unions. The Senate passed the bill in the early morning hours of Wednesday by a 32-23 vote. Any department that fails to comply with any of the draconian measures in this bill get their state funding yanked. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:32:06 PM EDT
[#8]
We commander in chief now
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:32:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How does it "defund?" |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:34:26 PM EDT
[#10]
Change of use of force guidelines would be nice to see more training and less shooting unarmed people.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:34:35 PM EDT
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So, anonymous, unsworn, unsigned complaints can get cops fired. Police departments will be flooded with bogus complaints.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:34:35 PM EDT
[#12]
Ha, Ha, Ha , Think Chicago is bad now just wait! If will be a true third world country The criminals now own the stret.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:35:22 PM EDT
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Just from what little I have heard on the talk radio shows, it strips the qualified immunity away from police too.
And then they must have forgot to put in this bill, to take the police out of schools. So they just filed another.... |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:36:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't agree with the changes, but they brought some of this shit down on themselves. Oh I absolutely agree. Nothing good will come of this bill but they've been pissing off the general public for years and just recently started making enemies among the middle class by enforcing shutdowns among other BS so this was inevitable. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:37:38 PM EDT
[#15]
Bail is the only problem I got with it. I wish they kept the end of qualified immunity part.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:37:43 PM EDT
[#16]
I’m really surprised the no cash bail wasn’t only for a certain demographic on the guise of and issued as “lower income earners and Covid relief” and I’m not kidding.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:37:53 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just from what little I have heard on the talk radio shows, it strips the qualified immunity away from police too. And then they must have forgot to put in this bill, to take the police out of schools. So they just filed another.... It started off as HB 163 which went even further and included the part you mentioned. The bill that passed was the watered down version. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:39:02 PM EDT
[#18]
Should of put no knock warrants in there
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:41:22 PM EDT
[#19]
I read the bill. I would hate to be a cop in Illinois.
That said, the libertarian in me really likes a lot of the provisions in it. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:42:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One major problem that Democrats have, is that they never ask the all important question: "If I do this... what happens next"? They are going to find themselves in trouble - very shortly. Like de Blasio in NYC who backtracked on his big defunding plan after a whole two months. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:43:41 PM EDT
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If "it" kicked off right now, it would be the cops and Antifa against the normal people. Anything that takes the teeth out of the police, right now is a good thing
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:43:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm really surprised the no cash bail wasn't only for a certain demographic on the guise of and issued as "lower income earners and Covid relief" and I'm not kidding. You think white people come to court once there's no cash bail? BWAH HA HA HA  Cops should be thrilled at the body cam requirement. There should be a dash cam requirement too. I'd run a camera everytime I did anything as a cop. I was just watching a body cam videos where one cop had no camera but two others nearby did. I'd bet money jurors are going to start being a lot more skeptical of the police when there's no camera. The bail stuff sounds like NY. Have fun with that  use of force thing may be a huge problem . here hte sheriff has to have a meeting with the community to discuss use of force,  I'm skeptical much will change (nor should it, really cops should go back to bonking people with billy clubs v. the present use of force: karate fight/wrassle->taser, get more of an ass kicking->uh oh Bang!) |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:43:51 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't agree with the changes, but they brought some of this shit down on themselves. What he said. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:44:15 PM EDT
[#24]
I don't see why anybody would want a career in LE ever again.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:48:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, anonymous, unsworn, unsigned complaints can get cops fired. Police departments will be flooded with bogus complaints. ...and resignations and early retirements, followed by lots of vacant positions. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:49:40 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If "it" kicked off right now, it would be the cops and Antifa against the normal people. Anything that takes the teeth out of the police, right now is a good thing If it ever kicked off none of these new laws would matter. This is one step closer to the state, and eventually the fed running policing across the board in this country. Edit: and your assumption is borderline retarded |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:50:31 PM EDT
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Quoted: We do this yet? https://www.thecentersquare.com/illinois/illinois-house-passes-sweeping-police-reform-bill/article_6f4b2d40-55cc-11eb-bd26-d73cef0b493b.html Our corpulent governor will almost certainly sign it. A 600 plus page bill passed in the middle of the night of course. May as well have called it the Criminal Protection Act. Good. Defund ALL the police and get rid of them all. I think we on the right are looking at this entirely incorrectly. Without the police to enforce liberal diktat, the laws are laughably toothless. Go ahead and defund every police department across the nation entirely and fire every fucking cop. Then go ahead and ban guns. Consider: Speed Limits. If there were no police, would ANYONE go even remotely close to the speed limit? (Outside areas like on an icy curve, etc) The sooner we realize collectively that the Police are absolutely, 100%, not on our side in the slightest bit, the better off we are. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:50:43 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't see why anybody would want a career in LE ever again. Hopefully they just sit at the station until they're called instead of going around looking for stuff to get involved with. Firefighters don't run around looking for fires if they're not on a call. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:51:00 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ...and resignations and early retirements, followed by lots of vacant positions. Then the crime wave 
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:51:04 PM EDT
[#30]
Their bed. They can sleep in it.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:52:44 PM EDT
[#31]
Take a long hard look at that picture
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:54:14 PM EDT
[#32]
The legislation also will allow officers to be punished or fired based on anonymous complaints from the public and defunds any department that does not comply 100% with the requirements. Lol, awesome. The next 4 years are gonna be hilarious. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:55:47 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't see why anybody would want a career in LE ever again. They don’t. There are not enough qualified applicants to fill an academy anywhere. Get ready for another round of ‘70/80’s level urban decay and sky rocketing crime rates. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:57:41 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They don’t. There are not enough qualified applicants to fill an academy anywhere. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't see why anybody would want a career in LE ever again. They don’t. There are not enough qualified applicants to fill an academy anywhere. It depends on how you define "qualified".  NYC just hired 900 new cops in November and are hiring another 900 in the next couple of months. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 1:59:40 PM EDT
[#35]
I would fire everyone at the FBI if I could.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:00:58 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Good. Defund ALL the police and get rid of them all. I think we on the right are looking at this entirely incorrectly. Without the police to enforce liberal diktat, the laws are laughably toothless. Go ahead and defund every police department across the nation entirely and fire every fucking cop. Then go ahead and ban guns. Consider: Speed Limits. If there were no police, would ANYONE go even remotely close to the speed limit? (Outside areas like on an icy curve, etc) The sooner we realize collectively that the Police are absolutely, 100%, not on our side in the slightest bit, the better off we are. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We do this yet? https://www.thecentersquare.com/illinois/illinois-house-passes-sweeping-police-reform-bill/article_6f4b2d40-55cc-11eb-bd26-d73cef0b493b.html Our corpulent governor will almost certainly sign it. A 600 plus page bill passed in the middle of the night of course. May as well have called it the Criminal Protection Act. Good. Defund ALL the police and get rid of them all. I think we on the right are looking at this entirely incorrectly. Without the police to enforce liberal diktat, the laws are laughably toothless. Go ahead and defund every police department across the nation entirely and fire every fucking cop. Then go ahead and ban guns. Consider: Speed Limits. If there were no police, would ANYONE go even remotely close to the speed limit? (Outside areas like on an icy curve, etc) The sooner we realize collectively that the Police are absolutely, 100%, not on our side in the slightest bit, the better off we are. So you'd rather have the fed running law enforcement entirely in this country? Because only a fool can't see this for what it is, and that is the end result in all of this. Sounds like a brilliant plan... everything you and I actually want cops to be focused on will be completely ignored and everything we don't want them to do will be their primary focus. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:02:45 PM EDT
[#37]
The funny part that people don't seem to realize is that if politicians can fix the problem, that means politicians caused the problem to begin with. Plus since democrats run IL, that means democrats caused the problem.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:03:24 PM EDT
[#38]
This is what IL wants, this is what IL gets.
I hope the fucksticks do it here in VA. Do it all. It's the city folks that will suffer first and they asked for it. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:04:32 PM EDT
[#39]
Unless white people (supremist) are involved and the governmant will spare no expense.
Look at what just happened in DC |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:04:52 PM EDT
[#40]
Just what we need, more lefty’s from Shitcago! I may have to consider relocating??
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:05:02 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hopefully they just sit at the station until they're called instead of going around looking for stuff to get involved with. Firefighters don't run around looking for fires if they're not on a call. Some places lack of productivity is grounds for good bye. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:05:25 PM EDT
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Armed Robbery sexual assault and and murder will explode, Who gives a shit if you cap someone for shorting you on your change ? No one will look for the suspect, gather evidence or fucking care! It's all fun and games until its your mother, daughter or you.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:06:04 PM EDT
[#43]
They are well aware of what is going to result from what they are doing. All part of the plan.
Create the problem, run on the problem, use the problem to grab more power and money. Wash, rinse, repeat. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:06:57 PM EDT
[#44]
Good, now defund the entire government.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:08:35 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It depends on how you define "qualified". NYC just hired 900 new cops in November and are hiring another 900 in the next couple of months. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I don't see why anybody would want a career in LE ever again. They don’t. There are not enough qualified applicants to fill an academy anywhere. It depends on how you define "qualified". NYC just hired 900 new cops in November and are hiring another 900 in the next couple of months. Lately “qualified” seems to be no Felony convictions and a pulse. Remember how well lowering standards worked out before? Nothing like hiring gang members to be cops to make things better! |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:08:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is what IL wants, this is what IL gets. I hope the fucksticks do it here in VA. Do it all. It's the city folks that will suffer first and they asked for it. But I'm not sure they do. IL like several states is hostage to the big cities. Chicago in their case. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:11:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It depends on how you define "qualified". NYC just hired 900 new cops in November and are hiring another 900 in the next couple of months. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I don't see why anybody would want a career in LE ever again. They don’t. There are not enough qualified applicants to fill an academy anywhere. It depends on how you define "qualified". NYC just hired 900 new cops in November and are hiring another 900 in the next couple of months. Wonder how many of those 900 are "they people". My guess is most if not all. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:13:58 PM EDT
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Wonder if the "other hand" move post defund the police is a massive increase in the 3 letter govt agencies?
Fewer cops to enforce fewer street level crimes, a metric butload of new fedbois to go after tax, gun, white collar and "white supremacy" stuff? Seems like a great combo move for anarcho-tyranny. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:13:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How does it "defund?" Quote HistoryQuoted: House Bill 3653, which passed by a 60-50 vote, will change use-of-force guidelines, require body cameras for every police department in the state, end cash bail, and strip collective bargaining rights relating to discipline from police unions. The Senate passed the bill in the early morning hours of Wednesday by a 32-23 vote. Only liberals and quislings read. Which one are you? |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:16:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Only liberals and quislings read. Which one are you? https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/My-wife-caught-me-/5-2374721/ 
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