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Posted: 5/4/2019 11:34:10 AM EDT
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They'll go with whoever is paying them the most.
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Posted: 5/4/2019 11:36:21 AM EDT
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identity politics uber alles. the military will never recover from 8 years of obama picking senior leaders. 20 years from now a white normal man as a gofo will be rare
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Posted: 5/4/2019 11:38:44 AM EDT
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Who writes their paychecks?
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Posted: 5/4/2019 11:39:08 AM EDT
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Who writes their paychecks? |
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Posted: 5/4/2019 11:39:43 AM EDT
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They'll go with whoever is paying them the most. |
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Posted: 5/4/2019 11:40:53 AM EDT
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FPNI. Never underestimate the careerist mentality of most officers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They'll go with whoever is paying them the most. |
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Posted: 5/4/2019 11:43:01 AM EDT
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Hopefully with the people... that's where their families are, after all.
Probably why leftists are pushing AI, drone and robotics development so hard... machines don't have have a conscious and do what they are told. |
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Posted: 5/4/2019 11:43:46 AM EDT
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I think that you can't look at a group of people that large as a single"people".
They'll probably split up at about the same rate as the rest of the country. Maybe a little more on the pro freedom side. |
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Posted: 5/4/2019 11:44:43 AM EDT
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In Iraq or Afganistan, when an officer tells a Sergeant, "take your men and search all the houses in this town and confiscate all the weapons. Kill any who resist." Do you think the sergeant or the men ever go, "wait a minute, sir. We don't *know* that these people are enemies, and they have universal rights to privacy and self defense. Shouldn't we use due process?"
If it "all went to shit" I don't know why it would be any different here. |
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Posted: 5/4/2019 11:44:56 AM EDT
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Enlisted & noncoms have been brought up with the same values indoctrinated into them as the rest of American culture... the majority will go with the government
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Posted: 5/4/2019 11:45:00 AM EDT
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They'll go with whoever is paying them the most. Look at Venezuela for examples. Or Soviet Union. Or Cuba The military will choose dental plan over revolution or coup. |
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Posted: 5/4/2019 11:45:46 AM EDT
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In Iraq or Afganistan, when an officer tells a Sergeant, "take your men and search all the houses in this town and confiscate all the weapons. Kill any who resist." Do you think the sergeant or the men ever go, "wait a minute, sir. We don't *know* that these people are enemies, and they have universal rights to privacy and self defense. Shouldn't we use due process?" If it "all went to shit" I don't know why it would be any different here. |
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Posted: 5/4/2019 11:45:55 AM EDT
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Since the majority of the military are blue collars just like us, my bet they pick our side.
Like us, I'm sure they think management sucks ass too. |
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Posted: 5/4/2019 11:46:09 AM EDT
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thank god we dont have a draft and are protected by a large standing professional army.
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Posted: 5/4/2019 11:46:18 AM EDT
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They're going to be slammed with propaganda about how evil we are, plus their livelihood is coming from the government.
I have a friend who is 100% turned into a pro-government tard because he's bombarded with daily propaganda about how great the government is because he works for a federal agency 
It's legitimately disturbing. |
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Posted: 5/4/2019 11:46:51 AM EDT
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Im betting it would be split with some commands refusing orders. Although there are a shit ton of “veterans” running as Democrats now...it’s the new Dem attempt at legitimacy...
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Posted: 5/4/2019 11:46:56 AM EDT
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Going back to the Whiskey Rebellion, when has the US military ever refused to fire on US citizens the government had problems with?
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Posted: 5/4/2019 11:47:43 AM EDT
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No one really knows for sure until the balloon goes up. What they should do and what will happen could end up the same or not at all. One thing for sure it would be against their oath to sit it out so they will be picking sides.
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Posted: 5/4/2019 11:48:48 AM EDT
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I think that you can't look at a group of people that large as a single"people". They'll probably split up at about the same rate as the rest of the country. Maybe a little more on the pro freedom side. |
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Posted: 5/4/2019 11:49:20 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/4/2019 11:49:37 AM EDT
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In Iraq or Afganistan, when an officer tells a Sergeant, "take your men and search all the houses in this town and confiscate all the weapons. Kill any who resist." Do you think the sergeant or the men ever go, "wait a minute, sir. We don't *know* that these people are enemies, and they have universal rights to privacy and self defense. Shouldn't we use due process?" If it "all went to shit" I don't know why it would be any different here. There has never been a kill them all ROE in our 18yr war. |
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Posted: 5/4/2019 11:50:22 AM EDT
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Combat arms goes right, support goes left.
Identity politics FTW! |
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Posted: 5/4/2019 11:50:46 AM EDT
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FPNI. Never underestimate the careerist mentality of most officers. |
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Posted: 5/4/2019 11:54:39 AM EDT
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Our military has always been a cross section of the US population. I think that you would not see solidarity one way or another, you would see disagreements at even the small unit level since people come from all walks off life. I do believe though you would see more soldiers side with the people at the combat arms level especially at the elite level like 82nd, rangers and special forces.
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Posted: 5/4/2019 11:54:43 AM EDT
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They're going to be slammed with propaganda about how evil we are, plus their livelihood is coming from the government. I have a friend who is 100% turned into a pro-government tard because he's bombarded with daily propaganda about how great the government is because he works for a federal agency
It's legitimately disturbing. |
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Posted: 5/4/2019 11:55:24 AM EDT
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FPNI. Look at Venezuela for examples. Or Soviet Union. Or Cuba The military will choose dental plan over revolution or coup. |
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Posted: 5/4/2019 11:56:21 AM EDT
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A bunch of Army guys get deployed to an area to suppress the locals somewhere, but then the locals kill a few of them. That's when you'll see who's who.
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Posted: 5/4/2019 11:58:14 AM EDT
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They're going to be slammed with propaganda about how evil we are, plus their livelihood is coming from the government. I have a friend who is 100% turned into a pro-government tard because he's bombarded with daily propaganda about how great the government is because he works for a federal agency
It's legitimately disturbing. |
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Posted: 5/4/2019 11:58:16 AM EDT
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Who writes their paychecks? |
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Posted: 5/4/2019 12:00:34 PM EDT
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thank god we dont have a draft and are protected by a large standing professional army. They have enough problems keeping Afghanistan under control, Funny how people think our Army can control the entire CONUS. Yea that isn't happening, especially with our logistics support coming mostly from the private sector. If America ever came to a Civil war it would all be decided on who controls the logistics if it lasts more that 6 months and what outside country supports either side. |
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Posted: 5/4/2019 12:00:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is a bunch of BS. Accusing our troops of being shit town goon squads like in Cuba, Venezuela or Russia is beyond the pale. Thank God your feminist nazi lost. |
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Posted: 5/4/2019 12:01:50 PM EDT
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what about the Noncoms and enlisted? |
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Posted: 5/4/2019 12:02:04 PM EDT
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Yep and no way I wouldnt want to be a Drill SGT to a bunch of draftees. They have enough problems keeping Afghanistan under control, Funny how people think our Army can control the entire CONUS. Yea that isn't happening, especially with our logistics support coming mostly from the private sector. If America ever came to a Civil war it would all be decided on who controls the logistics if it lasts more that 6 months and what outside country supports either side. most of the country would support the mass killing of deplorables. |
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Posted: 5/4/2019 12:02:49 PM EDT
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Going back to the Whiskey Rebellion, when has the US military ever refused to fire on US citizens the government had problems with? |
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Posted: 5/4/2019 12:03:11 PM EDT
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Combat arms goes right, support goes left. Identity politics FTW! 
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Posted: 5/4/2019 12:04:29 PM EDT
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Combat arms goes right, support goes left. Identity politics FTW! Gonna be interesting seeing the S4 NCOIC as a Infantry Squad leader. |
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Posted: 5/4/2019 12:04:46 PM EDT
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Yea but their was no Facebook with live feeds and 24/7 coverage. |
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Posted: 5/4/2019 12:04:51 PM EDT
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Never take stupid comments seriously either. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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FPNI. Never underestimate the careerist mentality of most officers. When push came to shove he had no ethical qualms about blowing off an innocent woman's head. |
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Posted: 5/4/2019 12:05:35 PM EDT
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Going back to the Whiskey Rebellion, when has the US military ever refused to fire on US citizens the government had problems with? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Going back to the Whiskey Rebellion, when has the US military ever refused to fire on US citizens the government had problems with? Quoted:
no its not. thats the price of a professional army. they fight for who pays them. |
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Posted: 5/4/2019 12:05:47 PM EDT
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This is a God-awful scenario to contemplate...
I figure as long as a large portion of the public has their own weapons it will never happen though... it's MAD in action. We'd probably loose against the government in the end but the destruction done in the process would be so bad that the government would have nothing left to rule over. So, any potential tyrant can't move against the people in a big way without slitting their own throat and the status quo is maintained. |
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Posted: 5/4/2019 12:05:59 PM EDT
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That is a bunch of BS. Accusing our troops of being shit town goon squads like in Cuba, Venezuela or Russia is beyond the pale. Thank God your feminist nazi lost. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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FPNI. Look at Venezuela for examples. Or Soviet Union. Or Cuba The military will choose dental plan over revolution or coup. |
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Posted: 5/4/2019 12:06:20 PM EDT
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Yea but their was no Facebook with live feeds and 24/7 coverage. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Going back to the Whiskey Rebellion, when has the US military ever refused to fire on US citizens the government had problems with? 
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Posted: 5/4/2019 12:07:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/4/2019 12:08:25 PM EDT
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95% will follow orders just like they are trained to do
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Posted: 5/4/2019 12:09:30 PM EDT
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with draftees you can punish them. most of the country would support the mass killing of deplorables. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yep and no way I wouldnt want to be a Drill SGT to a bunch of draftees. They have enough problems keeping Afghanistan under control, Funny how people think our Army can control the entire CONUS. Yea that isn't happening, especially with our logistics support coming mostly from the private sector. If America ever came to a Civil war it would all be decided on who controls the logistics if it lasts more that 6 months and what outside country supports either side. most of the country would support the mass killing of deplorables. Its easy when it's an evil American turned taliban, but what happens when it's Joe the plumber with four kids holding Dads bloody body on TV and Facebook? |
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Posted: 5/4/2019 12:09:31 PM EDT
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what about the Noncoms and enlisted? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They'll go with whoever is paying them the most. |
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Posted: 5/4/2019 12:10:34 PM EDT
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The only difference between our troops and Venezuelan troops are the patches they wear |
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Posted: 5/4/2019 12:10:34 PM EDT
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That's not as reassuring as you think it is.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Going back to the Whiskey Rebellion, when has the US military ever refused to fire on US citizens the government had problems with? |
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Posted: 5/4/2019 12:10:44 PM EDT
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Constitution side. Remember Admiral Rogers leaked to Trump the dirty deeds of Bathhouse Barry.
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Posted: 5/4/2019 12:11:06 PM EDT
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In that scenario the left would win. You cant win a modern war with just Grunt's Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Combat arms goes right, support goes left. Identity politics FTW! |
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