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Posted: 7/21/2021 8:07:41 PM EDT
I used to think drinking during the day was a terrible idea. Mainly because when I was younger I had a very hard time regulating the amount of booze I drank, and I always ended up having too much.

Now, I find that 2 cocktails around lunch hour is quite nice. It's enough for a little "head change" but not so much that you start noticing that awful "coming down" feeling.

I also find that if I have a couple drinks (4-6oz of 80 proof, for example), I am actually MORE focused.

Of course, like a lot of places work does not allow us to drink during our workday.

My go-tos during the day are some kind of cheap American beer (I'm an unsophisticated slob, don't judge me) if I am having it with lunch, or if I'm not eating, I like a gin/tonic or a Tom Collins.

I was wrong about drinking during the day, and I am sorry.


Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:08:54 PM EDT
its still a terrible idea, you're just drunk like I am
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:12:40 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:14:22 PM EDT
In.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:19:42 PM EDT
I drink all day too.  Mostly water though.  

I'll go be poor somewhere else.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:21:30 PM EDT
Having a drink in the middle of the day kills my motivation for most of the rest of the day, I figured that out early.

I rarely drink anyway, but when I do, it's after the work is done, no point in ruining a whole day by getting lazy halfway through it.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:22:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SixtyNine:
its still a terrible idea, you're just drunk like I am
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2 cocktails hardly makes me "drunk".....

If you're 110 pounds, YMMV.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:23:18 PM EDT
I dont miss drinking, but I do miss day drinking.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:23:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sitdwnandhngon:
Having a drink in the middle of the day kills my motivation for most of the rest of the day, I figured that out early.

I rarely drink anyway, but when I do, it's after the work is done, no point in ruining a whole day by getting lazy halfway through it.
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A couple (I'm talking 2-3) tends to actually make me slightly MORE focused for a couple hours.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:25:21 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SomewhatSensible:
I used to think drinking during the day was a terrible idea. Mainly because when I was younger I had a very hard time regulating the amount of booze I drank, and I always ended up having too much.

Now, I find that 2 cocktails around lunch hour is quite nice. It's enough for a little "head change" but not so much that you start noticing that awful "coming down" feeling.

I also find that if I have a couple drinks (4-6oz of 80 proof, for example), I am actually MORE focused.

Of course, like a lot of places work does not allow us to drink during our workday.

My go-tos during the day are some kind of cheap American beer (I'm an unsophisticated slob, don't judge me) if I am having it with lunch, or if I'm not eating, I like a gin/tonic or a Tom Collins.

I was wrong about drinking during the day, and I am sorry.


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Seems somewhat sensible...
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:25:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SixtyNine:
its still a terrible idea, you're just drunk like I am
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Yes.....a 21'er fight. My body is ready.

Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:28:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SomewhatSensible:

I also find that if I have a couple drinks (4-6oz of 80 proof, for example), I am actually MORE focused.

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Two doubles is "a couple drinks"?
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:31:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SomewhatSensible:


A couple (I'm talking 2-3) tends to actually make me slightly MORE focused for a couple hours.
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Originally Posted By SomewhatSensible:
Originally Posted By sitdwnandhngon:
Having a drink in the middle of the day kills my motivation for most of the rest of the day, I figured that out early.

I rarely drink anyway, but when I do, it's after the work is done, no point in ruining a whole day by getting lazy halfway through it.


A couple (I'm talking 2-3) tends to actually make me slightly MORE focused for a couple hours.


You just think you are more focused, because you're buzzed.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:31:22 PM EDT
Alcohol is a depressant.

It doesn't make you focus more, it just slows down your thinking and let's you give two shits less about everything else and you can "focus" on that one thing more than you would've before.

I see no problem with it
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:31:51 PM EDT
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Sorry, I meant 4-6oz total, not per drink.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:32:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SomewhatSensible:


A couple (I'm talking 2-3) tends to actually make me slightly MORE focused for a couple hours.
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Originally Posted By sitdwnandhngon:
Having a drink in the middle of the day kills my motivation for most of the rest of the day, I figured that out early.

I rarely drink anyway, but when I do, it's after the work is done, no point in ruining a whole day by getting lazy halfway through it.


A couple (I'm talking 2-3) tends to actually make me slightly MORE focused for a couple hours.


I don't mean to shit on you, but it is an early sign of withdrawal.  For a lot of people, the beers aren't making you focus better.  They are clearing your mind of wanting booze.

Then again, a couple drinks does make the average person better at most things (including driving), so maybe it's not WDs.  
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:32:43 PM EDT
Exactly how substance abuse starts. Every day drinker started exactly the same way.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:32:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SomewhatSensible:


2 cocktails hardly makes me "drunk".....

If you're 110 pounds, YMMV.
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sure it does

you are drunk
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:33:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bourbonator:


You just think you are more focused, because you're buzzed.
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Well, whatever it is. I'm not chasing as many rabbits like I normally am.

I'm diagnosed "ADHD", so that might explain it.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:35:01 PM EDT
You can’t drink all day if you don’t start in the morning.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:37:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bravo_Six:


I don't mean to shit on you, but it is an early sign of withdrawal.  For a lot of people, the beers aren't making you focus better.  They are clearing your mind of wanting booze.

Then again, a couple drinks does make the average person better at most things (including driving), so maybe it's not WDs.  
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I sort of doubt that....

My typical drinking habits consist of:
1 night / month (not lately due to COVID) of pretty heavy drinking (maybe 6-10 over 4-6 hours) during a night out on the town with the wife.
2-3 cocktails 1-2 nights per week to unwind at the end of the day
Very infrequently I'll have 1-3 during the day around lunch

I don't think I use alcohol with enough frequency or in sufficient quantity to start experience "withdrawals" from it...
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:38:52 PM EDT
6 ounces of 80 proof liquor is 4 standard drinks.  If you’re having that in an hour, you might be over .08.  Just FYI.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:40:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By carcrazysammy:
Exactly how substance abuse starts. Every day drinker started exactly the same way.
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I don't know man.... I've been doing this for several years with no real increase in the amount of alcohol I consume or the frequency with which I consume it...

I have the same 40-hour dayjob that I've had for about 6 years, plus a wife and 4 kids, and a mortgage...

Maybe some people can use alcohol without letting it ruin their lives? I can also have a slice of pizza without ballooning up to 400lbs. Go figure....

Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:43:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SomewhatSensible:


A couple (I'm talking 2-3) tends to actually make me slightly MORE focused for a couple hours.
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Originally Posted By sitdwnandhngon:
Having a drink in the middle of the day kills my motivation for most of the rest of the day, I figured that out early.

I rarely drink anyway, but when I do, it's after the work is done, no point in ruining a whole day by getting lazy halfway through it.


A couple (I'm talking 2-3) tends to actually make me slightly MORE focused for a couple hours.

it doesn't, you are just confusing thinking harder with being focused
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:49:24 PM EDT
Also, can’t believe this hasn’t been posted yet.

Link Posted: 7/21/2021 9:13:18 PM EDT
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Where are the cookies? I was promised you had cookies.  
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 9:16:47 PM EDT
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Also, can't believe this hasn't been posted yet.

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/ballmer_peak.png
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Interesting...

https://observer.com/2012/04/bottoms-up-the-ballmer-peak-is-real-study-says/
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 9:21:14 PM EDT
I do my job better drunk.. But usually only when working from home
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 9:29:34 PM EDT
Actually, the significant "benifit" of drinking when (trying to) work, only applies to skills also practiced when drinking.

The study group was professional UK darts players, whose OJT mostly took place in bars all their lives.  They needed 2-3 pints on board to get in "the zone" and could self-regulate their drinking from there on to stay buzzed but focused.

Of course, this result only really applies to fine motor skills, not general focus/concentration.  And the "practice said skills while buzzed" should probably not be attemped with shooting, or driving....

No word on whether they tried the same study with Lawn Darts.

BR
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 9:44:53 PM EDT
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 Mostly water though.  
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Fish fuck in it.

You could be giving some large mouth bass a blowjob by proxy.


Link Posted: 7/21/2021 9:51:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SomewhatSensible:


I sort of doubt that....

My typical drinking habits consist of:
1 night / month (not lately due to COVID) of pretty heavy drinking (maybe 6-10 over 4-6 hours) during a night out on the town with the wife.
2-3 cocktails 1-2 nights per week to unwind at the end of the day
Very infrequently I'll have 1-3 during the day around lunch

I don't think I use alcohol with enough frequency or in sufficient quantity to start experience "withdrawals" from it...
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Originally Posted By Bravo_Six:


I don't mean to shit on you, but it is an early sign of withdrawal.  For a lot of people, the beers aren't making you focus better.  They are clearing your mind of wanting booze.

Then again, a couple drinks does make the average person better at most things (including driving), so maybe it's not WDs.  


I sort of doubt that....

My typical drinking habits consist of:
1 night / month (not lately due to COVID) of pretty heavy drinking (maybe 6-10 over 4-6 hours) during a night out on the town with the wife.
2-3 cocktails 1-2 nights per week to unwind at the end of the day
Very infrequently I'll have 1-3 during the day around lunch

I don't think I use alcohol with enough frequency or in sufficient quantity to start experience "withdrawals" from it...


With that info, I agree.  Not WDs.  Carry on.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 9:54:01 PM EDT
My friends and I call it the two drink fuck its

You're safe with one drink, but when you go to the second you run the risk of saying fuck it, we're getting drunk
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 9:58:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BRetty:
Actually, the significant "benifit" of drinking when (trying to) work, only applies to skills also practiced when drinking.

The study group was professional UK darts players, whose OJT mostly took place in bars all their lives.  They needed 2-3 pints on board to get in "the zone" and could self-regulate their drinking from there on to stay buzzed but focused.

Of course, this result only really applies to fine motor skills, not general focus/concentration.  And the "practice said skills while buzzed" should probably not be attemped with shooting, or driving....

No word on whether they tried the same study with Lawn Darts.

BR
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That's interesting, actually...

Since I typically play pool when I am at least have a buzz going, I'd probably be worse playing the game sober, then?

The increased "focus" benefit basically comes from a feeling being much less distractable.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 9:59:38 PM EDT
Day drinking is a waste of booze and a day of work.  Wait until around 7 pm and start pounding that shit.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 10:03:52 PM EDT
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Day drinking is a waste of booze and a day of work.  Wait until around 7 pm and start pounding that shit.
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Work is far too much of a corporate HR-Karen-dominated environment for me to be allowed to drink during work hours.

There is a specific carve-out exception if you're entertaining clients/potential clients (though that doesn't apply to me).
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 10:04:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BRetty:
Actually, the significant "benifit" of drinking when (trying to) work, only applies to skills also practiced when drinking.

The study group was professional UK darts players, whose OJT mostly took place in bars all their lives.  They needed 2-3 pints on board to get in "the zone" and could self-regulate their drinking from there on to stay buzzed but focused.

Of course, this result only really applies to fine motor skills, not general focus/concentration.  And the "practice said skills while buzzed" should probably not be attemped with shooting, or driving....

No word on whether they tried the same study with Lawn Darts.

BR
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There have been a number of tests that show driving improves with 1-3 drinks.  IIRC, ever the Myth Busters admitted this.  

Motorcyclist magazine did an extensive test about 15 years ago that showed the same.  1 to 3 drinks significantly improves the ability of the average rider.

I'm not advocating it, but a small amount of alcohol is a huge PED for clay shooting.  Like a single sip from a flask and "xoxxooxo" SC stations turn into "xxxoxxxx".
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 10:04:21 PM EDT
These 21'ers are something else.....
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 10:05:17 PM EDT
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Thanks for showing up to say this, Boomer.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 10:08:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sitdwnandhngon:
Having a drink in the middle of the day kills my motivation for most of the rest of the day, I figured that out early.

I rarely drink anyway, but when I do, it's after the work is done, no point in ruining a whole day by getting lazy halfway through it.
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I'm exactly the same.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 10:10:28 PM EDT
You can’t say that you’ve been drinking all day if you don’t start first thing in the morning.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 10:16:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Aegis89:
I do my job better drunk.. But usually only when working from home
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A quarters player, it seems...
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 10:23:04 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 10:29:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BRetty:
Actually, the significant "benifit" of drinking when (trying to) work, only applies to skills also practiced when drinking.

The study group was professional UK darts players, whose OJT mostly took place in bars all their lives.  They needed 2-3 pints on board to get in "the zone" and could self-regulate their drinking from there on to stay buzzed but focused.

Of course, this result only really applies to fine motor skills, not general focus/concentration.  And the "practice said skills while buzzed" should probably not be attemped with shooting, or driving....

No word on whether they tried the same study with Lawn Darts.

BR
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I can say that I would like to read more of your posts.  Welcome aboard.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 10:36:19 PM EDT
I dont know if its still allowed, I retired in '06, but I used to have a couple beers at lunch while I was still on active duty.  We had a beer fridge in the Chief's Mess and I would go there for lunch.

With my current job as a consultant, we all drink during the day, even when visiting clients.  There are still lots of office bars in the corporate world.  I telecommute but the guys who keep a desk in the office all have bottles on their bookshelves.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 10:36:54 PM EDT
I workout 4-5 days a week directly after work. I can't drink during the day or it wrecks my motivation and strength (my main focus is growing the main 4 compound lifts). Good thing I use fitness as an excuse, otherwise I'd probably have a whiskey on the rocks at lunch everyday.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 10:38:37 PM EDT
Slightly less than two drinks, a classic:

Link Posted: 7/21/2021 11:18:33 PM EDT
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Having a little alcohol at lunch typically makes me an unmotivated piece of shit all afternoon.  I have to be a “self starter” and work with no supervision or guidance, and even a couple beers gives me a major case of the fuck-its.

Cannabis, on the other hand, seems to bestow upon me inhuman levels of focus.  I’ve only used it a few times - the first time, I spent a couple hours TIG welding stainless in a trance.  Beautiful beads.  It’s like time slowed down and I was able to watch the puddle freeze in slow motion and really focus on my rhythm.  Second time, I plowed snow (on my own property) for a couple hours and felt like I was one with the machine.  Like I had some scalpel-like precision through the joystick.

And then I registered an arf account under my real name and admitted to using a schedule 1 narcotic.  
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 11:26:54 PM EDT
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Sorry, I meant 4-6oz total, not per drink.
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Originally Posted By odiedodi:
Two doubles is "a couple drinks"?


Sorry, I meant 4-6oz total, not per drink.


so 2 or 3 double shots. Got it.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 11:31:15 PM EDT
I've come up with a much better solution.

I just empty the saline out of a regular old IV bag, and refill it with vodka.  Needle in a vein, slow steady drip, Bob's your uncle.  I can keep a good buzz going this way almost indefinately.  Infinitately.  Indefinably.  Whatever.  Hasn't hurt MY performance none.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 11:34:03 PM EDT
Username checks out.

I won't usually day drink unless we go to the lake or I'm smoking meat.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 11:37:09 PM EDT
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so 2 or 3 double shots. Got it.
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Typically a cocktail contains 1.5oz of 80 proof. Of course if it's free-poured, who knows?

Assuming a jigger is used, 4-6 oz would be 2.5-4 drinks or 1.33-2 "doubles."
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