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Link Posted: 4/19/2024 11:23:57 PM EDT
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If you don't mind OP, please post a pic of yourself.
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Now, I do look kinda sketchy.  Like, beefier 50 year old Danny Trejo kinda sketchy.  70s biker porn star/80s B action movie villain type


If you don't mind OP, please post a pic of yourself.



Link Posted: 4/19/2024 11:27:01 PM EDT
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So a nothing burger stop.  Not even an all police are evil?  How can GD even use this to validate their hatred of cops?
Link Posted: 4/19/2024 11:31:00 PM EDT
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Fuck checkpoints.

That kinda reminds me, a few months ago, about a mile from my house there's a sheriff pickup just parked in the road with its lights on, not on the shoulder or anything and no other vehicles present. Narrow two lane road in a no passing zone. There's a guy in front of me and we both just stop behind him, unsure of what the hell this guy wants us to do.

About a minute goes by and he gets out of his truck all huffing mad and waving at us to pass Hey retard, if you wanted us to go around, just put your damn hand out the window and wave us by.
Link Posted: 4/19/2024 11:31:58 PM EDT
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But did you create joinder?
Link Posted: 4/19/2024 11:36:31 PM EDT
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I almost hit a cop at a dui checkpoint one time. About midnight, pitch dark 2 lane road, and they had set up just after a blind curve. They had those fucking billion lumen LED light bars going so it blinded the shit out of me and I didn’t see the cop standing in the middle of the road until I was basically next to him.

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Seriously. DPS on 10 at night on a stop looks like the ships from Close Encounters..., the ones that snatched the kid, have camped out on the roadside.  Absolutely blinding.  Makes the dickhead with the Ram, the bad lift job, and the multiple light bars, look like a candle.
Link Posted: 4/19/2024 11:46:27 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/20/2024 12:18:39 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/20/2024 12:30:21 AM EDT
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I think its a genius setup

That way they can claim you were intoxicated by "blowing" their "checkpoint"

You saw their were only 2 cops? 1 car on each side of the road? That would be extremely unusual around my AO, here they always make a big deal of checkpoints with multiple cops, the cones, the signs etc, it looks like car wash line when they do it. a couple cops will go to 4 cars windows in a row while the line is piling up and do 3-4 at once, wave them by and then "process" another 4 cars.
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 12:40:33 AM EDT
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How did the interaction go?

I had gone in in the early evening to assist and  get about 12 hours of work done in 8 hours, it was pretty low stress, I was compensated very well, I got to work with a former colleague who is outstanding at their job, I was off going to be off the next four days, etc.

But, this means I was driving home at like 2:30 in the morning.

I had turned onto a road, normal stuff, had dropped the lid of my Gatorade, grabbed it, came around a corner, saw cruisers with blue lights on either side of the road, well off the road. Let off the gas, hadn’t even been turned on the road long enough to hit the speed limit,  A beat old truck was on the other side of the road, well off the shoulder with no damage, and a guy talking with a cop next to it, and also well off the shoulder on the other side the other cruiser shining his light up and down on the beat up truck looking at it or maybe waving me on.    It looked like they had stopped for a guy with a breakdown, no accident, or maybe he was a traffic stop with the driver asked out for something.  Whatever, kind of thing you slow down some and drive past every so often.   I drove past, soon went around another corner, and was driving along.

Then I saw blue lights behind me.  Coming up 15 mph  or so over the speed limit, not floored or reckless, no siren.  I thought, well, I was not speeding, did I swerve when I grabbed the lid, no, that was around the corner from  them, no siren, I guess he just wants to go by, and enough random opposite way traffic can’t pass.  There was not much shoulder, I hit my signal, and about 30 seconds later pulled into the entrance of a closed business full off the road.  He pulled up behind me.

Now, I do look kinda sketchy.  Like, beefier 50 year old Danny Trejo kinda sketchy.  70s biker porn star/80s B action movie villain type.  And… I’m in like an 8 year old medium sized SUV, that, while well maintained with a little over 100K on it is not police auction debadged cruiser or older rimmed out Maxima vibe, it’s certainly not executive or neurosurgeon late night at the office or hospital shiny new Lexus LX or G-wagon kind of ride.

So, I’m stopped well off the road with room to get behind me off the road, put window down, put reading glasses on, turn dome light on, get license, registration, and insurance in my hands which are both in full view on top of the steering wheel.  I don’t go looking for a reason to make a lone LEO on a two lane country road at three in the morning antsy.  And Inlegitmately don’t know what’s up because there should have been no swerve, broken stuff, speeding, etc. seen for a stop.

Guy calmly comes walking up to the back of the drivers window, gets a better look at sketchy at first glance guy who now has on reading glasses, pens in his shirt pocket, and an ID badge hanging from his neck.  

He states, in a normal firm voice-
I am position/last name from the named department.  I stopped you because you drove past a driver check point I was signaling you to stop at.

I’m briefly like WTF?  No barriers, no hazzard or red lights, that did at all look like a check point.
Holy shit- he could have came up on me floored with lights and sirens at three digits mph pissed and walked up mad an hot about running through a checkpoint.
I simply state-
I apologize.  I thought it was just a broken down truck on the side of the road or a traffic stop.

He says,
OK.  Hand me your -license please and wait here.

He looks at it, walks to the back of my vehicle, looks at my plate, walks back,
Hands me the license, and says-
Ok, you can go.

I’m like,
Thank you.  Again, I’m sorry I didn’t know it was a stop.

And that was it.

I only take the time to do this, because as many bad examples as get posted-
A LEO that could have justified driving crazy unsafe, being mad and confrontational, etc. simply treated it as routine and was calm and professional.

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Dude, it was a fishing expedition.     You were a sober high paid professional on the way back from work, so he threw you back.
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 1:08:51 AM EDT
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Where I come from (near St. Louis), if you start opening consoles/glove compartments before they are standing there watching, they will be displeased. *I don't know what you're pulling out of there...*
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Not that I get pulled over a lot and I live in the sticks but yeah dome light on, driver's window down, sit still while waiting wait for them to come up to the vehicle. Moving and digging around in the vehicle before the officer approaches just seems like a bad idea. They can wait while I get my papers out.
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 1:16:09 AM EDT
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Isolated incident
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 9:28:29 AM EDT
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Where I come from (near St. Louis), if you start opening consoles/glove compartments before they are standing there watching, they will be displeased. *I don't know what you're pulling out of there...*
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It’s not some kind of rummaging for 8.7 minutes activity.
Wallet out while looking for place to pull over, pull into place, in park, visor down DL, reg, insurance on dash, light on probably by the time they’re pulled in, putting it in park, taking off seat belt.

That way they’re not standing at the side of the car while I’m opening the glove box with a Tek-9 in it for the insurance, but it’s not there, then have to open the console with the Gerber TAC-II in it, only to realize it’s not there, then have to lift my six demon bag from the cubby to check there, all the while my cupholder drink full of wind, fire and all that kind of thing is steaming away drawing attention..
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 10:56:16 AM EDT
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drove past a driver check point
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These are illegal by definition.......

That would be my problem with the OP's post.


Link Posted: 4/20/2024 11:06:45 AM EDT
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These are illegal by definition.......

That would be my problem with the OP's post.


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Nope, the Supreme Court said that even though the check points meets the standard of a seizure under the 4th Amendment, it was okay with the police not having probable cause because "protecting us from harm" out weighs your rights.

Michigan Department of State Police v. Sitz (1990)
Are DUI checkpoints a violation of my Fourth Amendment Rights?
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 11:07:08 AM EDT
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WTF no shots fired?! No screaming woman?!

I’m disappointed you had a civil conversation with a polite cop..
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 11:13:12 AM EDT
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BUT HE’S SKETCHY LOOKING!!!!
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 11:13:15 AM EDT
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I got you, bro.

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Let ?????? off ?? the gas, ?? hadn’t ?? even ?? been ?? turned ???? on ?? the road ?? long ? enough ?? to hit ???? the speed ?? limit, ??  A beat ?? old ?? truck ???? was on ?? the other ?? side ??????????? of the road, ?? well ???? off ?????? the shoulder with no ?? damage, ?? and a guy ?? talking ?? with a cop ???????? next ?? to it, and also ?? well ?? off ?? the shoulder on ?? the other ?? side ?? the other ?? cruiser ?? shining ?? his ???? light ?? up ???? and down ?? on ?? the beat ?? up ?? truck ?? looking ???????? at it or maybe ?? waving ?? me ?? on. ??    It looked ?? like ?? they ?? had ??????? stopped for 4?? a guy ???? with a breakdown, ???? no ???? accident, ?????? or maybe ?? he ????? was a traffic ?? stop ?? with the driver ???? asked ?? out ?? for ?? something. ??  Whatever, ?? kind ?? of thing ???? you ???????? slow ?? down ?? some ?? and drive ?? past ?? every ?? so often. ??   I ?? drove ?? past, ?? soon ?? went ?? around ?? another ?? corner, ?? and was driving ???? along. ????  Then ?? I ?? saw ?? blue ?? lights ?? behind ???? me. ??  Coming ?? up ?? 15 ?? mph  or so over ???? the speed ???? limit, ?? not ?? floored or reckless, no ?????? siren. ??  I ?????? thought, ?? well, ??????? I ?? was not ?? speeding, did ?? I ???? swerve ?? when ?? I ?????????????? grabbed ?? the lid, no, ?? that ???? was around ???????? the corner ?? from ??  them, ?? no ?? siren, ?? I ?? guess ???? he ???? just ?? wants ?? to go ?? by, ?? and enough ?? random ?? opposite way ?? traffic ?? can’t ?? pass. ??????????  There ?? was not ?? much ???? shoulder, I ?? hit ???? my ???? signal, ?? and about ?? 30 ?? seconds ?? later ?? pulled ? into ???? the entrance of a closed ?? business ????? full ?? off ?? the road. ??  He ?? pulled ????? up ???? behind ?????? me. ????  Now, ?? I ?? do ?? look ?? kinda ?? sketchy.  Like, ???? beefier 50 ?? year ?? old ? Danny ???? Trejo kinda ?? sketchy.  70s biker porn ?? star/80s B ?? action ?? movie ?? villain ?? type. ??  And… I’m ?????? in ?? like ?? an 8 ???? year ?????? old ? medium ?? sized SUV, that, ??? while ?? well ?? maintained with a little ?? over ?? 100K on ?? it is not ??? police ?????? auction debadged cruiser ?? or older ?? rimmed out ????? Maxima vibe, it’s certainly ?? not ?? executive or neurosurgeon late ?? night ?? at the office ???? or hospital ?? shiny ?? new ?? Lexus LX or G-wagon kind ???? of ride. ??  So, I’m ?? stopped well ?? off ?? the road ?? with room ?? to get ?? behind ???? me ???? off ?? the road, ?? put ?? window ?? down, ?????? put ?? reading ?? glasses ?? on, ?? turn ?? dome light ?? on, ?? get ?? license, registration, and insurance ?? in ?? my ?? hands ????? which ???? are both ?? in ?? full ?? view ???? on ?? top ?? of the steering wheel. ??  I ?? don’t ? go ?? looking ?? for ?? a reason ?? to make ?? a lone LEO ? on ?? a two ??? lane ?? country ???? road ?? at three 3?? in ???? the morning ?? antsy.  And Inlegitmately don’t ???? know ?? what’s ???? up ?? because ?? there ?????? should ?? have ?? been ?? no ?? swerve, ?? broken ?? stuff, ?? speeding, etc. ?? seen ???? for ?? a stop. ???  Guy ?? calmly comes ??????? walking ?? up ?? to the back ?? of the drivers window, ?? gets ???? a better ?? look ??????? at sketchy at first ?? glance ???? guy ???? who ?? now ?? has ?? on ? reading ???? glasses, ?? pens in ?? his ?? shirt ?? pocket, ???? and an ID ?? badge ?? hanging from ???? his ?? neck. ??    He ?? states, ???? in ???? a normal ?? firm voice- ?? I ?? am ?? position/last name ?? from ?? the named ?? department. ??  I ???? stopped you ?? because ??? you ?? drove ?? past ?? a driver ???? check ? point ???? I ?? was signaling you ?? to stop ??? at.  I’m ???? briefly ?? like ???? WTF? ??  No ?? barriers, no ? hazzard or red ?? lights, ???? that ??? did ?? at all ?? look ???? like ?? a check ? point. ?? Holy ?? shit- ?? he ?? could ?????? have ???? came ?? up ?? on ?? me ?? floored with lights ?? and sirens at three 3?? digits mph pissed ?? and walked ?? up ?? mad ???? an hot ?? about ?????? running ?? through ?? a checkpoint. I ?????? simply ?? state- ?? I ?? apologize.  I ?? thought ?? it was just ???? a broken ?? down ? truck ?? on ???? the side ?? of the road ?? or a traffic ?? stop. ??  He ?? says, ?? OK. ??  Hand ?? me ?? your ?? -license please ?? and wait ?? here. ???  He ???? looks ?? at it, walks ?? to the back ???? of my ???? vehicle, ?? looks ???? at my ?? plate, ?? walks ?? back, ???? Hands ?? me ???? the license, and says- ?? Ok, ???? you ??? can ???? go. ??  I’m ?? like, ?? Thank ?? you. ????  Again, ?? I’m ????? sorry ?? I ? didn’t ?? know ?? it was a stop. ???  And that ???? was it.  I ?? only ?? take ?? the time ?? to do ?? this, because ?? as many ? bad ???? examples as get ? posted- ?? A LEO ? that ???? could ???? have ???? justified driving ?? crazy ?? unsafe, being ?????? mad ?? and confrontational, etc. ?? simply ?? treated ?? it as routine and was calm ?? and professional. ??
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 11:17:26 AM EDT
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Alki checkpoints should be illegal.

Illegal alien checkpoints and arrest should be legal.
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 11:17:45 AM EDT
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They still do checkpoints?

Link Posted: 4/20/2024 11:18:05 AM EDT
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Now, I do look kinda sketchy.  Like, beefier 50 year old Danny Trejo kinda sketchy.  70s biker porn star/80s B action movie villain type


If you don't mind OP, please post a pic of yourself.



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Link Posted: 4/20/2024 11:25:14 AM EDT
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that ain't from reddit, holmes.
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 11:34:41 AM EDT
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I think this is an attempt of a humble brag thread of OP trying to tell us he looks like some bad ass hillbilly biker from the 80s.
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 11:34:57 AM EDT
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I hope to never live in an area where cops are allowed to set up checkpoints to stop people for nothing at all.

Link Posted: 4/20/2024 11:37:51 AM EDT
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Nope, the Supreme Court said that even though the check points meets the standard of a seizure under the 4th Amendment, it was okay with the police not having probable cause because "protecting us from harm" out weighs your rights.

Michigan Department of State Police v. Sitz (1990)
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Two observations on that case, besides a super-majority of SCOTUS telling us our rights are superseded by gov't claims to be 'trying to do something here'.

1. Every court in Michigan ruled it a 4A violation (well, technically SCOTUS did too, but they also said 4A violations are a good thing) and Attorney General Kelley kept appealing it.

2. As soon as Kelley finally won on 4A grounds, MI's legislature promptly passed a law banning the practice. So all that time and money was spent and the end result was fucking over the residents of every state but the state Kelley was trying to fuck.
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 11:39:26 AM EDT
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I think this is an attempt of a humble brag thread of OP trying to tell us he looks like some bad ass hillbilly biker from the 80s.
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you don't?
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 11:40:49 AM EDT
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I witnessed a accident last summer while stopped at a red light, car hit a motorcycle, i along with a couple other people sat with the guy on the bike, waited on the police to come, once they got there the officer asked for my license and looked at my plate, I was like WTF?? I didn’t do anything, thought I was doing the right thing, if i was wanted or anything I would have been long gone by the time the police arrived.
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 11:43:06 AM EDT
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I think this is an attempt of a humble brag thread of OP trying to tell us he looks like some bad ass hillbilly biker from the 80s.
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Sketchy looking hillbilly biker.
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 11:45:11 AM EDT
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eh

I got pulled over one sunday noon time in springhill Fl
I passed 2 sherriffs hanging out by the road side.

1 quickly pulled out , lights. I pull over.

he comes up asking about the challenger I was driving. apparently he really liked it.
it was the reason he stopped me

it was all good, I didn't care
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 11:48:25 AM EDT
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So, did the cop have a man bun?
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 11:50:21 AM EDT
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god i hope so.
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 11:52:44 AM EDT
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Two observations on that case, besides a super-majority of SCOTUS telling us our rights are superseded by gov't claims to be 'trying to do something here'.

1. Every court in Michigan ruled it a 4A violation (well, technically SCOTUS did too, but they also said 4A violations are a good thing) and Attorney General Kelley kept appealing it.

2. As soon as Kelley finally won on 4A grounds, MI's legislature promptly passed a law banning the practice. So all that time and money was spent and the end result was fucking over the residents of every state but the state Kelley was trying to fuck.
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Nope, the Supreme Court said that even though the check points meets the standard of a seizure under the 4th Amendment, it was okay with the police not having probable cause because "protecting us from harm" out weighs your rights.

Michigan Department of State Police v. Sitz (1990)
Are DUI checkpoints a violation of my Fourth Amendment Rights?


Two observations on that case, besides a super-majority of SCOTUS telling us our rights are superseded by gov't claims to be 'trying to do something here'.

1. Every court in Michigan ruled it a 4A violation (well, technically SCOTUS did too, but they also said 4A violations are a good thing) and Attorney General Kelley kept appealing it.

2. As soon as Kelley finally won on 4A grounds, MI's legislature promptly passed a law banning the practice. So all that time and money was spent and the end result was fucking over the residents of every state but the state Kelley was trying to fuck.
Thanks
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 12:00:35 PM EDT
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I look more like a beatnik
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I could only hope to look like as fine a damn solid American as that gentleman.

I have in other threads also commented that these types of stops were reviewed by SCOTUS.
Who basically said they are unconstitutional but since it’s for the greater good we’ll allow them.

I have to legally stop and show DL, registration, and insurance here.
I didn’t think I was driving through a stop.

If I was asked for a search I would have said I don’t consent.
If they told me I had to wait for a dog I would have said-
I don’t want to wait.  I want to leave.
If they said I had to I would have waited.

The basic point is-
Even if like every other GD guy you don’t look like Dolph Lundgren driving your brand new Grenadier or Defender -

There are calm, professional, and courteous LEOs out there that won’t drag 18 year old girls or mag dump you for no reason or an acorn dropping.

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If I was asked for a search I would have said I don’t consent.
If they told me I had to wait for a dog I would have said-
I don’t want to wait.  I want to leave.
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And after waiting for the dog, I would go home and start drafting my 4A lawsuit.
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I witnessed a accident last summer while stopped at a red light, car hit a motorcycle, i along with a couple other people sat with the guy on the bike, waited on the police to come, once they got there the officer asked for my license and looked at my plate, I was like WTF?? I didn’t do anything, thought I was doing the right thing, if i was wanted or anything I would have been long gone by the time the police arrived.
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No good deed goes unpunished.
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Now that may be legit.
The letter of the law, at least as far as a courtroom is concerned, seems to say that here they can have a dog sniff around during the stop, but that you don’t have to wait for one to arrive and extend the stop if not already there.

Winning the argument on the side of the road in the middle of the night would be a different story.

Again, the point is-
The LEO calm and professional.

And that nobody ever posts these interactions.
Link Posted: 4/20/2024 3:46:24 PM EDT
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Checkpoints are communist.
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They are certainly statist.
Whether right or left backed.
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So, did the cop have a man bun?
god i hope so.


Nope.

Normal looking hispanic American dude with not severe, non beatnik middle of the road haircut.
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